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My intuition tells me it doesn't get better for men with age.....

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Thats a good burn

However it require way too much effort
I thought you were math ;)

Math also dictates that you will attract like form, so regardless of age, you will attract women of similar SMV.

Some posters feel subordinated by high claims, hence their lash out. I admire this as it shows they have a competitive edge as opposed to no edge.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I thought you were math ;)

Math also dictates that you will attract like form, so regardless of age, you will attract women of similar SMV.

Some posters feel subordinated by high claims, hence their lash out. I admire this as it shows they have a competitive edge as opposed to no edge.
Dammm I'm Math
Lmao
 

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Ok, I'll bite, it's a Monday after all

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Guru: Full Head of Hair
Who Dares Win: Three hair left on hairline and mad at the world for that; hence, all older men must have it as bad as he

Guru: Beautiful women with curves
Who Dares Win: Little boys with wigs

Haha. Always a pleasure friend.
Well going ad personam on people that disagree with you sound more common for a fake (or a sissy) than a billionaire fkn girls left and right as you remind us wheter we talk stocks or vegetables.

You should work more on your social persona, already 3 users in this thread only caught you and its not because your online habits conflict with your lies....I can say that this particular fake of yours has been burnedm you got it all wrong from the moment you picked the name actually.

Try to make one called "prophet10.000" and then tell us that you run a cult in a caribbean island full of naked women loving you.
 

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The old one on top shows a diva behaviour, is full of make up and shows off expensive brand clothes...
The "old" one on top looks like she puts a lot of effort into looking the way she does, working out, etc. While the younger one looks like she just looks that way with light makeup and little effort. Now the younger girl may balloon up and hit the wall hard by the time she's as old as the brunette girl. But right now she looks better IMO.

The older girl has a good habit with working out, and that's probably the only way she can look that good. But this results in a harder, more "cut" look, whereas the younger girl appears softer. I know a lot of guys are into the fitness look - rock hard abs and that sort of thing - but I prefer the softer look when I can get it.

By the way, don't run my forum stats please :)
 

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The "old" one on top looks like she puts a lot of effort into looking the way she does, working out, etc. While the younger one looks like she just looks that way with light makeup and little effort. Now the younger girl may balloon up and hit the wall hard by the time she's as old as the brunette girl. But right now she looks better IMO.

The older girl has a good habit with working out, and that's probably the only way she can look that good. But this results in a harder, more "cut" look, whereas the younger girl appears softer. I know a lot of guys are into the fitness look - rock hard abs and that sort of thing - but I prefer the softer look when I can get it.

By the way, don't run my forum stats please :)
Keep in mind that the top one has been photoshopped too, you can see from the texture of her skin.

I'm not saying that anyone should go after the second one and not the first, just saying that those picture failed to prove the point that he was trying to prove.

Probably a middle aged guy would feel more comfortable with the mid 30s one for reason outside her pure look, but in my case just like other users said its not the case.

Dont worry about your posting stats, they emerge only when you brag about being a millionaire attending events and banging hotties 24/7 but somehow you had the time and the "will" to post non stop on an online forum that same day to remind random people your amazing life style.
 

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Well here's the verdict gentlemen with an audience of 18-80 yo men, 20 votes each:

Drum roll ...

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SMV> Age
 

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Keep in mind that the top one has been photoshopped too, you can see from the texture of her skin.
She looks like she may have had some work done, too, some plastic surgery.

Well here's the verdict gentlemen with an audience of 18-80 yo men, 20 votes each:
If I read that correctly, the blonde girl I prefer is rated as smarter and more trustworthy.
I really don't see that first girl as that hot. She's attractive, but not enough to get that reaction. I don't care much about Photofeeler though, it just reminds me of Bigneil. Looks to me that they must be blind. In any case, if other guys prefer the brunette, great. Less competition for the blonde.
 

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Top Form, 30 yo

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Average form 21 yo


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SMV > Age, not mutually exclusive. Age certainly helps but does not supersede genetics (to a great extent).
The top is a model and the one below is not. Do I really have to find an image of a 21 year old model?

You're further proving my point. You keep bringing up top forms of women in that age range but are ignoring the average.
 

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I'm not going to judge strictly on education alone, although it helps, but the convo needs to flow and keep me interested. Because after sex, she is dominated, and then what?? If she can't make the rapport flow, I'm not motivated to see her again.

But yes, educated women tend to forge deeper connects if you are a driven and kept man.
I would second the importance of an educated woman. When I was dating, and even meeting people today, there tends to be a better connection with people that have gone to college or pursued some form of higher education. I am not even sure how to articulate it, but it's almost as though you can tell within 5 minutes of meeting someone.

I didnt tend to do nearly as well with uneducated women; maybe a subconscious feeling of dismay?
 

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She looks like she may have had some work done, too, some plastic surgery.

If I read that correctly, the blonde girl I prefer is rated as smarter and more trustworthy.
I really don't see that first girl as that hot. She's attractive, but not enough to get that reaction. I don't care much about Photofeeler though, it just reminds me of Bigneil. Looks to me that they must be blind. In any case, if other guys prefer the brunette, great. Less competition for the blonde.
Zekko she is hot. Period. I honestly wouldn't date the young chick. My taste apparently aligns with the majority opinion as the numbers demonstrate. That's because I'm a Guru ;)

Skyline said:
The top is a model and the one below is not. Do I really have to find an image of a 21 year old model?

You're further proving my point. You keep bringing up top forms of women in that age range but are ignoring the average.
I never ignored the average. In fact, if you reread my statements, I claimed it.

My only argument is SMV > Age.

However, I challenge you to find any girl of any age that gets more than 19/20 "Very Attractive" scores. In fact, I will Venmo you $100 for any girl of any age that can beat the 30 yo I posted in attractiveness ranking. Up for the game?

Roober said:
I would second the importance of an educated woman. When I was dating, and even meeting people today, there tends to be a better connection with people that have gone to college or pursued some form of higher education. I am not even sure how to articulate it, but it's almost as though you can tell within 5 minutes of meeting someone.

I didn't tend to do nearly as well with uneducated women; maybe a subconscious feeling of dismay?
Has a lot to do with who you are. My greatest connects were with educated women, a stronger emotional bond forged by the meeting of the minds as I call it. As for other women, where there's no bonding, when the sex drys up, then what?
 

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It doesn't matter so much if an individual poster is honest or bragging, the Guru archetype older guy does exist, I've seen it plenty of times. I don't bother calling out other posters unless even the archetype they project is implausible.
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Ya, I know many, some affluent with the seducer archetype. But even, they, in their 40s, date into the late 20s.

I don't know any man early to late 40s who consistently, finds and dates hot women in the 21-24 yo range. So I can't blame the few who don't believe this claim as I hardly believe it myself. But in all fairness, I'm handsome as fvck ;):

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Ya, I know many, some affluent with the seducer archetype. But even, they, in their 40s, date into the late 20s.

I don't know any man early to late 40s who consistently, finds and dates hot women in the 21-24 yo range. So I can't blame the few who don't believe this claim as I hardly believe it myself. But in all fairness, I'm handsome as fvck ;):

https://printshoplab.printshoplab.com/prints/pf/XxmbKo45GMkaM1Dxg3qjVQO2/photos/561005930
Some people are and its all good. Own that shyt.
 

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She looks like she may have had some work done, too, some plastic surgery.


If I read that correctly, the blonde girl I prefer is rated as smarter and more trustworthy.
I really don't see that first girl as that hot. She's attractive, but not enough to get that reaction. I don't care much about Photofeeler though, it just reminds me of Bigneil. Looks to me that they must be blind. In any case, if other guys prefer the brunette, great. Less competition for the blonde.
Exactly the comparison is done by photofeeler between a photoshopped woman with plastic jobs and an everyday normal 21 yrs old girls.

That would be like comparing a roided up photoshopped 35yrs old bodybuilder and a 20 yrs old random guy in a gym and say that the older guy are more athletic by deafult...

Facts like football player and olympic athlete to be in their 20s wouldnt make any difference ofc.

Clearly there are exceptions everywhere but fertility in women is not something you can work in the gym and men subconsciously smell it on a woman.

Agree with @Skyline that we have to consider the average for the purpose of this, a single case doesnt make a rule.

We dont say that french guys conquer europe or german guys burn people in camps just because one of them did it after all.
 

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^^Everything stated here is conclusory (this means absent evidence) and thus must be discarded in a discourse of facts.

Here’s some help, the argument is:

SMV > Age (in the context of attractiveness)

Now use evidence to support your point, otherwise take a hike.
 

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Talking with some people is like arguing with some middle aged woman, its like what they emotionally believe and ego invest and whoever disagrees needs to be called names.

"I believe women have a favourable treatment at courts" ----> "ahahah you creep shut up loser you say that cause no woman loves you".

Personally every one deserves to keep his own opinion, not a matter of human rights but simply of taste.
 

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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Absent any other objections (with evidence), Another SoSuave myth is debunked whereas young age alone does not dictate the attractiveness of a women. Seems simple right? Maybe we can stop with the young (unattractive) girls are turning 18 every day, and?

SMV > Age in the context of attractiveness

Simply because SMV (for a woman) is synonymous with attractiveness and thus holds stronger relevance than age.

This syllogism holds true with men as well except SMV for men is influenced by more than just looks alone.

Hence, to the OPs question, yes older men can date, Fvck, or LTR much younger women in accordance with their SMV. But a younger woman might be less forgiving of an older guy’s lack of SMV.

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just to point out the way you say it means age have no relation on SMV, with is false, age is part of the smv, smv triumphs all other variable you can get, but remember smv have a lot of things liked to it, and fora woman, the simple fact she is young means her smv will be higher, with means the older she is lower her smv will be, but then she tries to raise her other smv variable, to try to keep her smv, but even so, age is the biggest thing
 

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^^ I’m surprised at your audacity to challenge a Guru1000 ... but at the same time I like your ambition.

My response to your post:

I did not state age cannot affect one’s perceived SMV.

I did state in the context of attractiveness, SMV > Age
 

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^^ I’m surprised at your audacity to challenge a Guru1000 ... but at the same time I like your ambition.

My response to your post:

I did not state age cannot affect one’s perceived SMV.

I did state in the context of attractiveness, SMV > Age

SMV> age
its obvious age is a factor in smv but there is so many more.
so idk why some cant get this

SMV(Age,education, social, physical shape etc) > age

so ez to understand its not even debatable
 

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