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It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

I had a great conversation with this cute insurance girl at my dealership

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except for the part when they look 60 at 40. Pale white women age horrific
This is also a recurring theme in your posts. Why are you worrying about what a 20-something year old woman will look like in 20 years? You're not in an LTR, you're not even dating her. She just talked to you, lol.

You should be thinking about how great she'll look in your bed naked 2 weeks from now, not whether she'll have wrinkles when you're pushing 60 yourself.

This is analogous to a man walking into a menswear store and repeatedly telling the assistant that he wants a $5000 suit even though his budget is $150 and they only offer $200 suits.
 

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Let's go down the list here

- By far the most attractive women of any group. Latinas and Middle Eastern women are way more beautiful and exotic than white girls, and they look much better with no makeup. Most white girls look terrible without makeup. Latinas and Middle eastern women have super thick hair, beautiful thick olive skin, full lips, etc....

- They usually have lots of ass and tits. Some white girls have nice bodies, but many are sorta flat also. Look at Middle Eastern and Latina pornstars, every last one of them has a 10/10 body

- Huge into family values, very similar to my people. I would do anything for friends and family. Middle eastern women and Latinas are very similar. Italians are too

- They age phenomenal

Considering I'm from the middle eastern but I also love Spanish culture, I strongly doubt that I would not get along well with any female like that

My problem with the 2 groups is finding a middle eastern chick who is not muslim or Latina who is not a single Mom. That's the 2 biggest afflictions with those 2 groups.
 

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True Story:

I have a friend, "Rick." Rick is a decent looking guy (think actor Adrien Brody), really good job with a large, solid company, probably pulls $150K+ per year, big 401K, no kids, little debt, nice house, three cars including a 1970's muscle car he fixed up, keeps in fantastic shape, can cook, likes to travel, and is the kind of guy that would pick you up at 3 AM 100 miles away if you asked him to. Quite religious.

I've been friends with him for about 15 years.

I'm 99% sure he's not gay.

He LONGS for a wife and kids.

But...

Since I've known him, he's NEVER had a girlfriend, not dated a woman for more than a few dates. I can count on one hand, in 15 years(!!), how many women he's had one simple date with. I've been with him at many events, parties, and we've gone out bar hopping quite a few times. Every time I see him talking to a fairly attractive woman, maybe a HB6-7, he'll come up with some BS reason as to why he won't pursue. He gives women his number and expects them to call. Takes no advice. Gets mad or tunes out if I try to help him. We were at a singles event a year ago. He's talking to a HB7+ middle eastern chick 20 years younger than him. She's giving him big IOI's. He ditches her. I asked him why. In a quiet, somewhat critical voice, he says, "Well, her a*ss was just a liiittttle big." I just shake my head at him. I pick up a girl and she hangs with us. He plays third wheel for a while and drops us both off (he drove). Same thing a few months later at a wine event, I pull this very hot woman and we go to a bar across the street. He shows up, no woman, plays third wheel. I let her go because he was my ride home and she lived way farther south.

Now, I don't hang out with him much because he's turned into a HUGE curmudgeon and is bitter about women. He's no fun. You need the f*ucking Jaws of Life to get him out of his house. Forget it...

Point I'm making is this: Dave, this will be you in 10 years. You are so f*ucking picky, which in combination with your anxiety around hot women - which is a direct result of low self esteem (I'm not good enough for her!!), will be your Waterloo. 100% guaranteed.

**PLEASE STOP POSTING** until you actually have something to contribute, in a positive manner, to the SoSuave site. The best posters here have tried to help you ad nauseam , and you refuse to take ANY action. It's the same s*hit over and over and over and over...

That my friend, is textbook DELUSIONAL DISORDER. The good news is it can be treated and fixed if you work at it.

Best of luck to you.

~Dash

f**kking a man


that's a huge wake up call. You're absolutely right
 

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You know Dave, some people get trapped in their little box and fail to open their eyes to a world of possibilities. They get stuck in fantasy land and never get laid and grow old alone.

I played baseball in college. My dream was to play middle infield for the Yankees. Not the Reds, Brewers or Cubs. The Yankees. The greatest team in all of baseball.

At the end of the day, I had a nice little college career. Lots of chicks. Strong social circles that are even going strong today, 20 years later. As it all worked out I wasnt good enough to play pro ball at a scale of getting paid well for doing it. Had I been good enough to play for another MLB team besides the Yankees, which would have been a tremendous accomplishment that very few people get to do, I certainly wouldnt have turned down the possibility of making millions of dollars playing a game I loved just because it wasnt the Yankees. I certainly would have signed a multi year deal work millions with ANY team had I been good enough.

Wanting something and actually being able to achieve it are sometimes 2 totally different things. Sometimes something other that what you have your heart set on ends up being just as good or better in different ways.

Do you see where I am going with this? You're delusional to an extent. I hope you get that little 10 bodied middle eastern girl that isnt Muslim or the Latino that isnt a single mom. But you just said yourself that its like finding a needle in a haystack.

When you play the percentages they are not good for you. Take all the women in your area that are within your dating range (20 miles?) and then divide them down to the age range that you are looking for. Then divide them down to ONLY Latinos who have no kids and middle eastern women who are not Muslim. Then divide those numbers down to the body type you are looking for. Then divide that number of women down to the ones that are not married or in a LTR. Then divide that down to the ones looking for the same thing you are.

And we havent even divulged into personality traits, interests, hobbies, education, financially stable, etc etc etc.

This is why you are frustrated with women. This is why you cry on here that dating is so tough. In reality dating is easy when you dont set yourself up for failure from the start.

You are the guy wanting a new Porsche when you can afford a Hyundai. Too stupid or stubborn to buy the Hyundai, you choose to walk everywhere but b!tch and moan that you have to walk instead of drive. Who do you expect to feel sorry for you?

Either change your expectations and open your mind up to other options (which all could be great btw) or you are doomed.
 

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You know Dave, some people get trapped in their little box and fail to open their eyes to a world of possibilities. They get stuck in fantasy land and never get laid and grow old alone.

I played baseball in college. My dream was to play middle infield for the Yankees. Not the Reds, Brewers or Cubs. The Yankees. The greatest team in all of baseball.

At the end of the day, I had a nice little college career. Lots of chicks. Strong social circles that are even going strong today, 20 years later. As it all worked out I wasnt good enough to play pro ball at a scale of getting paid well for doing it. Had I been good enough to play for another MLB team besides the Yankees, which would have been a tremendous accomplishment that very few people get to do, I certainly wouldnt have turned down the possibility of making millions of dollars playing a game I loved just because it wasnt the Yankees. I certainly would have signed a multi year deal work millions with ANY team had I been good enough.

Wanting something and actually being able to achieve it are sometimes 2 totally different things. Sometimes something other that what you have your heart set on ends up being just as good or better in different ways.

Do you see where I am going with this? You're delusional to an extent. I hope you get that little 10 bodied middle eastern girl that isnt Muslim or the Latino that isnt a single mom. But you just said yourself that its like finding a needle in a haystack.

When you play the percentages they are not good for you. Take all the women in your area that are within your dating range (20 miles?) and then divide them down to the age range that you are looking for. Then divide them down to ONLY Latinos who have no kids and middle eastern women who are not Muslim. Then divide those numbers down to the body type you are looking for. Then divide that number of women down to the ones that are not married or in a LTR. Then divide that down to the ones looking for the same thing you are.

And we havent even divulged into personality traits, interests, hobbies, education, financially stable, etc etc etc.

This is why you are frustrated with women. This is why you cry on here that dating is so tough. In reality dating is easy when you dont set yourself up for failure from the start.

You are the guy wanting a new Porsche when you can afford a Hyundai. Too stupid or stubborn to buy the Hyundai, you choose to walk everywhere but b!tch and moan that you have to walk instead of drive. Who do you expect to feel sorry for you?

Either change your expectations and open your mind up to other options (which all could be great btw) or you are doomed.

I mostly like ethnic women

I would date Italian/Greek or any south European, would date light skin or mixed black

I would date like Thai or Filipina
 

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I want a black Aventador S with the full Alcantra upgrade, but I only have $60k to spend. Until then I'll just walk to everywhere.
 

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except for the part when they look 60 at 40. Pale white women age horrific
A wife will stop having sex with you long before her looks crash.

I don’t think I’d want a wife to stay hot looking AND have a sexless marriage lol. If the sex ends, let her looks crash. It doesn’t matter at that point.
 
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I want a black Aventador S with the full Alcantra upgrade, but I only have $60k to spend. Until then I'll just walk to everywhere.
a 7 or 8/10 ethnic woman is not an aventador


come on dude. I'm not asking for a 10/10. Realistically, I'm asking for the female version of myself. Am I a Lamborghini then?

if i went to an Armenian night club, a huge percentage of women there would fit my exact type. All my standards is mostly guarding against bull**** from other cultures

- would not date a muslim girl. Islam is garbage. Armenia is 100% Christian but mostly not that religious

- would not date a single mom. Never happens in Armenia

- women almost never smoke, almost never heavily drink, never get tattoos in Armenia. None of that garbage

- don't like pale or skinny women - Armenian women always have beautiful olive complexion and voluptous figures


etc...
 
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Realistically, I'm asking for the female version of myself.
No, you're not being realistic. The women you've posted pics of are 8/10+ and you're a 6/10 all day, may be a 7/10 on a good day. Perhaps higher amongst the Armenian guys, I'll give you that. But now, you may want this 8/10 Armenian woman but if she can get a 9/10 without effort (as is the case with OLD) why should she go for you? Even all that aside, you're not even in the running, you're not even trying to meet anyone where perhaps luck might favor you one day like if she had a bad experience, she's decided she wants to try again with an Armenian dude instead and up comes your profile, nope you're not doing anything at all but write posts after posts.
 

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No, you're not being realistic. The women you've posted pics of are 8/10+ and you're a 6/10 all day, may be a 7/10 on a good day. Perhaps higher amongst the Armenian guys, I'll give you that. But now, you may want this 8/10 Armenian woman but if she can get a 9/10 without effort (as is the case with OLD) why should she go for you? Even all that aside, you're not even in the running, you're not even trying to meet anyone where perhaps luck might favor you one day like if she had a bad experience, she's decided she wants to try again with an Armenian dude instead and up comes your profile, nope you're not doing anything at all but write posts after posts.
I'm a 9 to 10/10 for Armenian standards. Don't know another Armo dude who is even comparable to me. I'm not even saying that to flatter myself - our men are ugly compared to the gorgeous women lol :D

but my main point is the woman I'm looking for is nowhere near a Lamborghini. Realistically, I would say 20-40% of Armenian women my age turn me on tremendously. 20-40% of cars on road are Lambos?

and the women I post are what really really turns me on. In real life, I would settle for a lot less, but it's gotta be something reasonable. I can't settle for a 5/10 or even a 8/10 who is 34 or who has 2 kids
 

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Well OK @bigdave17 that all makes perfect sense to me. So now, what have you been doing to find these women that turn you on?
 

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No, you're not being realistic. The women you've posted pics of are 8/10+ and you're a 6/10 all day, may be a 7/10 on a good day. Perhaps higher amongst the Armenian guys, I'll give you that. But now, you may want this 8/10 Armenian woman but if she can get a 9/10 without effort (as is the case with OLD) why should she go for you? Even all that aside, you're not even in the running, you're not even trying to meet anyone where perhaps luck might favor you one day like if she had a bad experience, she's decided she wants to try again with an Armenian dude instead and up comes your profile, nope you're not doing anything at all but write posts after posts.
He said on his other thread that 8 and 9 Armenian women were marrying 4 and 5 out of shape big gut and not groomed armenian men. I suspect these men where extremely masculine and didnt pander to them or put up with crap. They Obviosly loved these men.

It points out its not all about looks.
 

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Well OK @bigdave17 that all makes perfect sense to me. So now, what have you been doing to find these women that turn you on?

there are no Armenian women where I live so I'm forced to find a poverty replacement - which is middle eastern (pretty close except most of them are muslims) and Latinas (which are great except for the single mom thing)

I would totally date Italian or Greek but I've had no opportunities with any of them
 

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He said on his other thread that 8 and 9 Armenian women were marrying 4 and 5 out of shape big gut and not groomed armenian men. I suspect these men where extremely masculine and didnt pander to them or put up with crap. They Obviosly loved these men.

It points out its not all about looks.
Armenian men are ugly as hell on white people standards. If a 9/10 Armenian babe wanted someone as attractive as herself, she would likely have to date outside of her racial group (which they don't want to do). I'm about as good looking as Armenian men realistically get and you guys rate me a 6 or a 7

It's fukked up to think about. If I was still living back home overseas, I would have had a very gorgeous wife by now but I would be poor. Instead, I'm living the opposite life - zero dating life whatsoever but I'm rich. Not sure which is better
 

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the important thing is I had great chemistry with her

i know I can do the same thing when I finally get my chance with my beautiful ethnic fitness model
Bro I would look at this as a worse failure than if a girl straight up rejected you. Why? Because I’d be thinking damn that was a great convo with some good chemistry yet I just couldn’t pull the trigger and simply ask her out.

At the very least get her cell number and then message her a couple times and then go for the date.

Your post indicates that it would’ve been a sure thing as far as her saying yes to a date or giving out her phone number.
 

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Armenian men are ugly as hell on white people standards. If a 9/10 Armenian babe wanted someone as attractive as herself, she would likely have to date outside of her racial group (which they don't want to do).
You make a lot of stereotypical statements.

It's fukked up to think about. If I was still living back home overseas, I would have had a very gorgeous wife by now but I would be poor. Instead, I'm living the opposite life - zero dating life whatsoever but I'm rich. Not sure which is better
I've always said I'd take the money if given the choice between women and money. Money gives you a wide variety of options, whereas a woman is nice to have, but still only fills the sex/companionship void. But there's no reason you have to have only one or the other, you're the one limiting yourself.

I can understand how you can still be messed up from being fat when you were younger. Those early inner issues can be tough to deal with. If you didn't make so many obnoxious narcissistic statements, you'd be a more sympathetic figure.
 
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