Feeling like giving up with women

[Ranger]

I read through the posts. Your entire paradigm is off. It’s the wrong model.
All the things you are doing are coming from a world where you are hoping to get something from her. Or even her acceptance by having sex with you.

That world is the feminine imperative world. You’ve already accepted that she holds the cards and all the power. Only because socially she is told she does. It’s not true. It’s all an illusion made up just to put you in the position and mindset you are now dealing with.

Until you see them for the little girls on the playground beating up little boys and laughing about it together you are in their playground and subject to their rules.
Everything they did was completely predicatable. So much so that it’s funny.

 

[sangheilios]

I read through the posts. Your entire paradigm is off. It’s the wrong model.
All the things you are doing are coming from a world where you are hoping to get something from her. Or even her acceptance by having sex with you.

That world is the feminine imperative world. You’ve already accepted that she holds the cards and all the power. Only because socially she is told she does. It’s not true. It’s all an illusion made up just to put you in the position and mindset you are now dealing with.

Until you see them for the little girls on the playground beating up little boys and laughing about it together you are in their playground and subject to their rules.
Everything they did was completely predicatable. So much so that it’s funny.

Well, I wouldn't be talking to them and wasting my time if I wasn't trying to get something from them (number, date, sex, etc.) haha.

They do hold all the power though, I had no control over those situations aside from choosing to engage with them. These women initiated with me and despite doing everything correct it still didn't line up. As I mentioned, they were asking me out and starting conversations with me only to have them change their minds randomly out of nowhere.

 

[Ranger]

Well, I wouldn't be talking to them and wasting my time if I wasn't trying to get something from them (number, date, sex, etc.) haha.

They do hold all the power though, I had no control over those situations aside from choosing to engage with them. These women initiated with me and despite doing everything correct it still didn't line up. As I mentioned, they were asking me out and starting conversations with me only to have them change their minds randomly out of nowhere.

This is feminine imperative conditioning.

 

[Ranger]

In her past she’s given freely and without question to men yet she flakes on you.

 

[sangheilios]

This is feminine imperative conditioning.

What does that even mean?

 

[sangheilios]

In her past she’s given freely and without question to men yet she flakes on you.

Flaked on me despite them asking me out and initiating it in the first place.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What does that even mean?

It means whats being preached today in the female world. They are all doing the same things. Coaching each other like we do here.

 

[Ranger]

What does that even mean?

Ahhhhh, a useful question. Nice.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I read through the posts. Your entire paradigm is off. It’s the wrong model.
All the things you are doing are coming from a world where you are hoping to get something from her. Or even her acceptance by having sex with you.

That world is the feminine imperative world. You’ve already accepted that she holds the cards and all the power. Only because socially she is told she does. It’s not true. It’s all an illusion made up just to put you in the position and mindset you are now dealing with.

Until you see them for the little girls on the playground beating up little boys and laughing about it together you are in their playground and subject to their rules.
Everything they did was completely predicatable. So much so that it’s funny.

Theres a lot of things they do to establish a power differential and common viewpoints she shares with her peers. Lets discuss. And lets discuss the armor and shield that the Lord needs us as masculine and sexual men to wear in the face of this. What are we up against? What should be our priority rulesets and how we carry ourselves? What is completely unallowable?

 

[sangheilios]

It means whats being preached today in the female world. They are all doing the same things. Coaching each other like we do here.

So is he saying that these women are behaving like this with me because they are being encouraged to do so to "play the game"? Being flakey, not giving away too much too soon, etc.?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So is he saying that these women are behaving like this with me because they are being encouraged to do so to "play the game"? Being flakey, not giving away too much too soon, etc.?

Of course in the dating world yes! They are far more organized and strategic than we can imagine.

 

[Ranger]

The feminine imperative is a socially instituted and even forced way of thinking about women and even the entire world of women.
It’s designed to seperate out men to be use for resources and men to breed with.

Everywhere you look men are being told what to think about dating, relationships and women.
Every bit of it is a lie. All of it. If a woman says it...it’s meant to benefit her sexual strategy and not yours.
You're in a dream world.

 

[sangheilios]

Of course in the dating world yes! They are far more organized and strategic than we can imagine.

I'm aware of that, I just wasn't sure what he meant by that term.

 

[sangheilios]

The feminine imperative is a socially instituted and even forced way of thinking about women and even the entire world of women.
It’s designed to seperate out men to be use for resources and men to breed with.

Everywhere you look men are being told what to think about dating, relationships and women.
Every bit of it is a lie. All of it. If a woman says it...it’s meant to benefit her sexual strategy and not yours.
You're in a dream world.

Ok

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm aware of that, I just wasn't sure what he meant by that term.

Feminine operative

 

[Ranger]

There is not one single supposed truth out there. Not one. Are women consciously doing this. Not really and not entirely. It’s biology on steroids that’s socially reinforced.

 

[sangheilios]

Feminine operative

I'm aware of the fact that there is a power struggle whenever women and men meet, as both parties are subconsciously trying to exploit one another.

Men ultimately have the goal of acquiring sex, though the means of which they go about doing this will obviously vary.

Women on the other hand, though having sexual desires, are looking for other things related to finding a man who can support her and their children. After all, no woman in her right mind would want to end up a single mother.

All of these things are completely sub conscious, though many of our behaviors and desires are based on our biology.

 

[Ranger]

I'm aware of the fact that there is a power struggle whenever women and men meet, as both parties are subconsciously trying to exploit one another.

Men ultimately have the goal of acquiring sex, though the means of which they go about doing this will obviously vary.

Women on the other hand, though having sexual desires, are looking for other things related to finding a man who can support her and their children. After all, no woman in her right mind would want to end up a single mother.

All of these things are completely sub conscious, though many of our behaviors and desires are based on our biology.

How about...you don’t want her because she probably isn’t worthy anyway. Not at first.
What does that frame and model do to a woman’s mind? How does that effect her emotionally?

 

[sangheilios]

How about...you don’t want her because she probably isn’t worthy anyway. Not at first.
What does that frame and model do to a woman’s mind? How does that effect her emotionally?

It would make her feel insecure and want to earn that man's attention, assuming she is at least interested to some degree.

 

[Ranger]

It would make her feel insecure and want to earn that man's attention, assuming she is at least interested to some degree.

Good. Now let’s take it a little further.
Let’s say that society created this playground. In the playground are all the women and 90% of the men. These men have been programmed from birth to live in that playground. ESPECIALLY if they were raised by their mothers.

These men believe what they see because of that programming. But it’s all an illusion. In that playground the women make all the rules and society backs it up. Sometimes with force. All of your thoughts are based solely on this fake reality.
How would you know what to think or how to form a social thought if your entire foundation by which you think is feminine?

You don’t have a starting point by which to form a thought that isn’t influenced by that feminine foundation. It’s completely made up and not real.

In that playground women have the game of extorting resources from all the 90% of men who are in the playground. Walk on them. Kick them. Laugh at them. Use them. (Keep in mind they are not being evil)

Now up walks a man to the edge of that playground. He isn’t in the playground. He’s just looking around tether leisurely. Interested maybe.
Those women see him and they know he’s no fool like the others. He’s someone to breed with for the best offspring. From HER viewpoint. Not yours.
So she wants to breed with him. There’s no doubt. No hesitation. He’s a man that owns HIS own playground.

Why does he want that man at the edge of the feminine reality?