Why women tend to gravitate to narcistic douchebags?

[Ranger]

I take your word for it. I’m not here trying to advocate for a society run by clan mothers lol.

But you are trying to inject the “virtuous” tennents of matriarchal rule. Well you already have it. for the last 200 years but destructively the last 50. You won.
Everything you wanted. (Not you personally) Where’s the joy? Where’s all that feminine love?
You know, utopia. The unicorns are dancing and the tulips are blooming.

 

[AJ84]

But you are trying to inject the tennents of matriarchal rule. Well you already have it. for the last 200 years but destructively the last 50. You won.
Everything you wanted. (Not you personally) Where’s the joy? Where’s all that feminine love?
You know, utopia. The unicorns are dancing and the tulips are blooming.

I’m not injecting matriarchal rule Ranger. How did me pointing out that a tribe from a time way way way before we were born had women calling the shots lead to me injecting matriarchal rule?? Did I also not just post that I’m not advocating for that?
I can see if I just out of the blue posted something about clan mothers and the power they had but recall that I was replying to something you posted about the Iroquois tribe to illustrate a point that men should lead and I was just pointing out that in that tribe (but not all tribes as you pointed out) the clan mothers actually called the shots.
I actually agree with you that thanks to third wave feminism, things are not that great. I personally think these groups went overboard and there are other women like me who think the same.
But what I don’t agree with is blanket statements about women (not saying you do this but in general), that women are kids that need to be constrained or trained or whatever. Everytime someone compares a woman to a child I think to myself so they want to f**k a child? Wtf.
I have a female friend who refers to men as dogs no matter what kind of guy they are. So I asked her what it is she likes about f**king dogs and she got mad but whatever I just don’t buy into that bs.
It comes from a place of fear. It’s sad that some men think this way and I do think that some of it is because of third wave feminism. If they had just stopped at equal rights I think things would be fine. But the whole metoo craze, which I have lamented before on this site, is totally out of hand.
Anyway I could on and on because the metoo thing actually pi**es me off but I won’t. I hope you get what I’m trying to say here.

 

[Ranger]

I apologize AJ. I had no desire to win an argument I was listening to your words and concepts. You taught me a lot and it had nothing to do with anything we actually talked about. So if I caused any stress it was not my intention. You are allowed to have any opinion or viewpoint you want or choose to have. I was listening to you.
We actually agree on some things.
But I do remember everything I see and hear. A skill I developed.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Lol omg really guys. How many guys post here about being decived by a woman then post again with another story about another woman who deceived them. Men are also capable of being deceived let’s not pretend that’s not the case now. Getting screwed over again and again then trying to say only women let their emotions lead them. That’s laughable and you know it. I didn’t just join this site yesterday I read what crap guys are putting up with because they are thinking with their d**ks and emotions but yeah, logical.
It’s not only women who are capable of being lead by emotions and being deceived and you know it.

naturally women are much more run by their emotions.

Are you implying men and women are no different?

 

[AJ84]

I apologize AJ. I had no desire to win an argument I was listening to your words and concepts. You taught me a lot and it had nothing to do with anything we actually talked about. So if I caused any stress it was not my intention. You are allowed to have any opinion or viewpoint you want or choose to have. I was listening to you.
We actually agree on some things.
But I do remember everything I see and hear. A skill I developed.

No need to apologize at all. No stress. I definitely see your point on some things for sure.

 

[AJ84]

naturally women are much more run by their emotions.

Are you implying men and women are no different?

Did I post that men and women are no different? In the area of dating, there are things that actually are no different, like putting up with crap behaviour from another person because of emotions or lust.
Some things of course are different, different intentions ( she wants a boyfriend he wants to get laid for example).
But men and women are humans and humans feel things and make dumb mistakes and can be impulsive etc.
Think about men getting into fights on the street. Logic? Or emotion? Anger is an emotion is it not? What fuels a guy throwing a punch at another guy who gave him a dirty look or danced with his girl or banged into him and didn’t say sorry?
Women getting into fights over some guy, pulling hair calling each other *****s posting nasty stuff about each other online.
All emotionally lead.
Some people can manage this better than others of course but what I’m trying to point out is that men too, can be led by their emotions and some men are more lef by emotions than others. Some women are too. No, men and women are not all the same because not all men are the same and not all women are the same.

 

[Spaz]

What rules are you talking about?
I don’t think so called nice guys are the root of the problem. Woman who chase aholes are part of the problem as well. Anyone who uses people for their own gain without any regard for the other person is like a cancer in the dating pool. I’m not saying everyone has to be super agreeable and accommodating, but selfish and hurtful people are like the polyester of potential mates.

From my perspective living and trained both as a child in my tribal art as a hunter/warrior and later in my teens studying away from the jungles into the city, and then making a living in a modern environment.

There's one fact that's undeniably the truth; women's nature has been basically very much the same throughout history. In my tribe or in the cities or in different countries they are very much the same. Their selfishness, extreme wants, frivolity etc. I believe it's there to ensure the survival of humanity.

So if women's nature is the same regardless of time and place then what has changed?

It's the men that has changed. Modern city men has neither the skill nor the training to be manly.

Now there's just too many "nice" guys walking around, trained by their mom's and even at school by a mostly female teaching staff. Boys at school nowadays do not get corporal punishment for misbehaving neither do they get it at home - can you see what I see?

I can list a multitude of problems that afflicts men in general.

In the end mens problems lies with men. It has never been abt women.

The modern men has become soft, feminine like in character, their unwillingness to dismiss, their lack of leadership at home and with women has in turn had an effect on women, their children and society at large.

I say this fully knowing and living in both divides of a civilization.

There are some families that the males keep to their traditional male values and pass it off to their sons - but it's a dying breed even in my surroundings.

The "Red Pill" and "Hypergamy" that has most "nice" guys here gushing and writing poem's abt is sickening.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Did I post that men and women are no different? In the area of dating, there are things that actually are no different, like putting up with crap behaviour from another person because of emotions or lust.
Some things of course are different, different intentions ( she wants a boyfriend he wants to get laid for example).
But men and women are humans and humans feel things and make dumb mistakes and can be impulsive etc.
Think about men getting into fights on the street. Logic? Or emotion? Anger is an emotion is it not? What fuels a guy throwing a punch at another guy who gave him a dirty look or danced with his girl or banged into him and didn’t say sorry?
Women getting into fights over some guy, pulling hair calling each other *****s posting nasty stuff about each other online.
All emotionally lead.
Some people can manage this better than others of course but what I’m trying to point out is that men too, can be led by their emotions and some men are more lef by emotions than others. Some women are too. No, men and women are not all the same because not all men are the same and not all women are the same.

Again this doesn't refute my argument or change the reality which is the fact that in GENERAL women are NATURALLY more. Often controlled by their emotions. I think it's really a result of hormones.

Pointing out that everyone is an individual with their own unique personality (to an extent) doesn't mean much.

In general men are physically stronger and larger than women. But you also have female Professional athletes, and nerdy male professors who've never touched a weight in their life. These are called exceptions.

From my perspective living and trained both as a child in my tribal art as a hunter/warrior and later in my teens studying away from the jungles into the city, and then making a living in a modern environment.

There's one fact that's undeniably the truth; women's nature has been basically very much the same throughout history. In my tribe or in the cities or in different countries they are very much the same. Their selfishness, extreme wants, frivolity etc. I believe it's there to ensure the survival of humanity.

So if women's nature is the same regardless of time and place then what has changed?

It's the men that has changed. Modern city men has neither the skill nor the training to be manly.

Now there's just too many "nice" guys walking around, trained by their mom's and even at school by a mostly female teaching staff. Boys at school nowadays do not get corporal punishment for misbehaving neither do they get it at home - can you see what I see?

I can list a multitude of problems that afflicts men in general.

In the end mens problems lies with men. It has never been abt women.

The modern men has become soft, feminine like in character, their unwillingness to dismiss, their lack of leadership at home and with women has in turn had an effect on women, their children and society at large.

I say this fully knowing and living in both divides of a civilization.

There are some families that the males keep to their traditional male values and pass it off to their sons - but it's a dying breed even in my surroundings.

The "Red Pill" and "Hypergamy" that has most "nice" guys here gushing and writing poem's abt is sickening.

Which is a huge reason why so many guys on here whine and complain about getting used by women. Not only are they raised improperly from the get go, they're not taught or shown the reality when it comes to women.

You don't have to have much money or even a car to get an average or above average woman. I do hard labor jobs and its a hard life but women respect it. You don't even need money. Im not saying I'm a big player or that the women I've been with are dime pieces, but they're not bad and they usually have been very down to earth and way more than generous. Now I can't make a relationship last more than 2 years, and I always end up getting emotionally wrapped up because I don't really spin plates or cheat (this is dangerous and short sighted) but I read on this site about how some of these guys get just used by women and i don't understand why you allow it.

Don't get me wrong I've been disrespected and emotionally abused in my last relationship, but never financially or fvcked over like they.

Call me a humble bagger or w/e but I almost wonder what would happen in my future relationship(s) if I do start giving a fvck, applying myself and having financial successes. I'm not responsible at all.