Hypergamy... what to do about it.

[user43770]

Every man is also capable of the same.

Do we also name it hypergamy?

I edited my post since you quoted it, but yeah, men make stupid purchases. Pails in comparison to having a cuckold baby.

 

[Spaz]

I edited my post since you quoted it, but yeah, men make stupid purchases. Pails in comparison to having a cuckold baby.

I'll put it this way.

Women's basic and important standards hv not change since the dawn of time, to want a provider, a defender, a lover - basically a masculine man.

It's the standards of men that hv change.

Can anyone here blame a woman for leaving a loser who basically is jobless most of the time or being drunk on most days?

Or an abuser who is basically a coward ?

Or a man who displays lack of passion in life - grow fat, ugly, lazy etc.

Who want 2 be with a man that has no ambition?

Who wants their sons to follow the foot steps of such a father?

Chances r low for a woman 2 leave a great man, even if she did, it's likely he allowed it.

 

[user43770]

I'll put it this way.

Women's basic and important standards hv not change since the dawn of time, to want a provider, a defender, a lover - basically a masculine man.

It's the standards of men that hv change.

Can anyone here blame a woman for leaving a loser who basically is jobless most of the time or being drunk on most days?

Or an abuser who is basically a coward ?

Or a man who displays lack of passion in life - grow fat, ugly, lazy etc.

Who want 2 be with a man that has no ambition?

Who wants their sons to follow the foot steps of such a father?

Chances r low for a woman 2 leave a great man, even if she did, it's likely he allowed it.

This is what we call man-shaming. Mention the worst examples of men you can think of to justify a woman's irrational behavior.

Are you a woman, spaz?

 

[AJ84]

Khloe Kardashian respects TT even though he cheated on her dozens of times. She’s trying everything to make it work.

Would she be with him if he was home all day?

We don’t know if she truly respects him, we just know that she stayed with him.

And I’m referring to regular women, not celebs where marriages and relationships are as much about publicity as they are about anything else. (Will she leave TT? Let’s follow her Instagram and watch her show to find out.) Remember, any publicity is good publicity and the only reason why the Karadashians are even famous is because of a ‘leaked’ sex tape. The mother was a big part of getting the show started, What does that tell you about their values?

So not a good representative of women in general.

Regular women who are not low value won’t increase their love, respect and affection for a guy who is sleeping around. You seem to be confusing being with a guy who other women want to f**k with being with a guy who is out f**king other women. There’s a big difference here. We like having guys who are attractive to other women but are faithful to us. Such a guy is more likely to motivate us to keep his interest on us, staying in shape being attractive etc, but if he’s out sleeping with other women despite those efforts, then what’s the point? A lot of women will just find someone else and move on.

 

[Spaz]

This is what we call man-shaming. Mention the worst examples of men you can think of to justify a woman's irrational behavior.

Are you a woman, spaz?

Do you not feel ashamed if u r just 1/2 the man u r supposed 2 be?

I know I would be.

 

[user43770]

Do you not feel ashamed if u r just 1/2 the man u r supposed 2 be?

I know I would be.

Women have mostly given up trying to be devoted wives and mothers. Why should I throw myself under the wheel trying to be a good provider?

 

[Spaz]

Women have mostly given up trying to be devoted wives and mothers. Why should I throw myself under the wheel trying to be a good provider?

I speak for myself.

I aim to be the best in everything that I do, it doesn't matter if I'm a brick layer or in my current position as a director of a mnc.

What matters 2 me is my standards, it must always be above par. If I'm a bricklayer then I must be the best motherfvcking bricklayer that other bricklayers would look upon.

I do nothing that's aimed 2 please a woman, as most of u r here with the hypergamy blame game.

Know that, by just by naming a standard into hypergamy has changed the life narrative 4 you, now it's no longer abt your standards but HOW u might fit into a woman's standard and when u CAN'T you blame it into the word hypergamy.

And that's where everyone has gotten it wrong.

The 1st basic purpose of a man is at the very minimum is 2 lead his own family.

When u hv high standards, you will not take on women with ill repute - junkies, clubbers...u get my drift don't you?

When u hv high standards and effective then u r a man of many means, skills and options. Then it is you that chooses which woman that shares ur life, ambitions, dreams etc. Should you fall and be practically penniless ur woman will unlikely 2 abandoned you, for she knows a great man is beside her and will likely rise up once more. For any woman with substance knows that life has its ups and downs. But she also knows that while there are plenty of man, not many has achieved greatness or has the potential of being a great man. A great man knows that when he has fallen, he must use all of his inner strength to rise up again, claw his way back. This will be admired.

Some men just wishes 2 remain in the doldrums for years and then demand that their womenfolk 2 stick by them?

A man who points to hypergamy is a man who has yet 2 master leadership.

Men who leads other men, or has men following them has the highest probability of having fruitful relationships with women.

Do note: Leadership does not apply over the net or forums. It must be achieved in real life. And if you can't inspire other men to follow you, that's fine too. Just learn the basics to lead ur own woman or family unit. It starts by taking responsibility.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I speak for myself.

I aim to be the best in everything that I do, it doesn't matter if I'm a brick layer or in my current position as a director of a mnc.

What matters 2 me is my standards, it must always be above par. If I'm a bricklayer then I must be the best motherfvcking bricklayer that other bricklayers would look upon.

I do nothing that's aimed 2 please a woman, as most of u r here with the hypergamy blame game.

Know that, by just by naming a standard into hypergamy has changed the life narrative 4 you, now it's no longer abt your standards but HOW u might fit into a woman's standard and when u CAN'T you blame it into the word hypergamy.

And that's where everyone has gotten it wrong.

The 1st basic purpose of a man is at the very minimum is 2 lead his own family.

When u hv high standards, you will not take on women with ill repute - junkies, clubbers...u get my drift don't you?

When u hv high standards and effective then u r a man of many means, skills and options. Then it is you that chooses which woman that shares ur life, ambitions, dreams etc. Should you fall and be practically penniless ur woman will unlikely 2 abandoned you, for she knows a great man is beside her and will likely rise up once more. For any woman with substance knows that life has its ups and downs. But she also knows that while there are plenty of man, not many has achieved greatness or has the potential of being a great man. A great man knows that when he has fallen, he must use all of his inner strength to rise up again, claw his way back. This will be admired.

Some men just which 2 remain in the doldrums for years and wishes their womenfolk 2 stick by them?

A man who points to hypergamy is a man who has yet 2 master leadership.

Men who leads other men, or has men following them has the highest probability of having fruitful relationships with women.

Do note: Leadership does not apply over the net or forums. It must be achieved in real life. And if you can't inspire other men to follow you, that's fine too. Just learn the basics to lead ur own woman or family unit. It starts by taking responsibility.

This is outstanding.

 

[Roober]

I'll put it this way.

Women's basic and important standards hv not change since the dawn of time, to want a provider, a defender, a lover - basically a masculine man.

It's the standards of men that hv change.

Can anyone here blame a woman for leaving a loser who basically is jobless most of the time or being drunk on most days?

Or an abuser who is basically a coward ?

Or a man who displays lack of passion in life - grow fat, ugly, lazy etc.

Who want 2 be with a man that has no ambition?

Who wants their sons to follow the foot steps of such a father?

Chances r low for a woman 2 leave a great man, even if she did, it's likely he allowed it.

It's sad that the red pill completely ignores the other side of the coin, and many of the followers blindly follow it. I will say that hypergamy is dead to a high value man. If hypergamy exists for you, your at the bottom of the food chain or accepting lower quality women into your life.

 

[user43770]

I speak for myself.

I aim to be the best in everything that I do, it doesn't matter if I'm a brick layer or in my current position as a director of a mnc.

What matters 2 me is my standards, it must always be above par. If I'm a bricklayer then I must be the best motherfvcking bricklayer that other bricklayers would look upon.

I do nothing that's aimed 2 please a woman, as most of u r here with the hypergamy blame game.

Know that, by just by naming a standard into hypergamy has changed the life narrative 4 you, now it's no longer abt your standards but HOW u might fit into a woman's standard and when u CAN'T you blame it into the word hypergamy.

And that's where everyone has gotten it wrong.

The 1st basic purpose of a man is at the very minimum is 2 lead his own family.

When u hv high standards, you will not take on women with ill repute - junkies, clubbers...u get my drift don't you?

When u hv high standards and effective then u r a man of many means, skills and options. Then it is you that chooses which woman that shares ur life, ambitions, dreams etc. Should you fall and be practically penniless ur woman will unlikely 2 abandoned you, for she knows a great man is beside her and will likely rise up once more. For any woman with substance knows that life has its ups and downs. But she also knows that while there are plenty of man, not many has achieved greatness or has the potential of being a great man. A great man knows that when he has fallen, he must use all of his inner strength to rise up again, claw his way back. This will be admired.

Some men just wishes 2 remain in the doldrums for years and then demand that their womenfolk 2 stick by them?

A man who points to hypergamy is a man who has yet 2 master leadership.

Men who leads other men, or has men following them has the highest probability of having fruitful relationships with women.

Do note: Leadership does not apply over the net or forums. It must be achieved in real life. And if you can't inspire other men to follow you, that's fine too. Just learn the basics to lead ur own woman or family unit. It starts by taking responsibility.

I'm sure you're a hard worker and a great guy. Good for you. Spare me the man up speech.

Let me just say that no man ever got married with the intention of getting divorced, yet there are a lot of them out there.

Nobody knows what fate has in store.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Though @RangerMIke has some valid points and his posts are usually quite good, I feel the whole hypergamy thing is WAY overplayed and over blown on this site. A few thoughts and experiences based on 20+ years of dating and study into human behavior, especially motivation and attraction:

1- The NUMBER ONE factor MOST women strive for in a relationship is EMOTIONAL CONNECTION. Period. This is Boy-Girl 101 stuff. This has zero to do with what car you drive, the appliances you have in your kitchen, the fact you're a doctor or fly F-16s, your granite counter tops, and A-frame cabin in the woods. It has 100% to do with how she FEELS when she's with you. This is why the dentist gets dumped for the personal trainer making $30K year or low-key project manager at work--connection.

2- SOME women are focused on MONEY, possessions, looks, etc. But the ones who dump guys over this and marry for material gain are in the VAST MINORITY. Period. I don't have to tell you the ones that do this are REALLY f*ucked up and a total waste of time. BUT, any guy with a semblance of common sense should sniff this out WAY before committing or marrying a woman like this.

3- Hypergamy behavior in women, though real, does decline as their age increases. Yes, the 18-25 year old may be oooooed and ahhhhed by some guy's Maserati, house, jewelry, good looks, big biceps, whatever. But over time, women will choose a confident man who has his sh*it together who they CONNECT with--and you don't need all the material, shallow crap. Just some goals, no BS attitude, backbone, $ stability (not "rich") and GOOD JUDGEMENT. Yes, I do have good size in my biceps and I'm a gym rat. I also take care of my looks and have some $, but I do it for me. I also drive a 2000 Cherokee Sport, live in 1300 sq ft house (mine), have linoleum floors in my kitchen, and need some furniture updated. BUT, I have no problem regularly banging hot women 10-20 years younger. I've also had many LTRs.

4- Don't BLAME "hypergamy" if you get dumped or your woman is being distant. There's a 99% chance it's because YOU'VE f*cuked up and got sloppy in your game; needy, soft, lazy, out of shape, goal-less, basically a real drag and drip to be around. BLAME YOURSELF and fix it.

Good luck, gents.

~Dash

 

[skinnyguy]

We don’t know if she truly respects him, we just know that she stayed with him.

And I’m referring to regular women, not celebs where marriages and relationships are as much about publicity as they are about anything else. (Will she leave TT? Let’s follow her Instagram and watch her show to find out.) Remember, any publicity is good publicity and the only reason why the Karadashians are even famous is because of a ‘leaked’ sex tape. The mother was a big part of getting the show started, What does that tell you about their values?

So not a good representative of women in general.

Regular women who are not low value won’t increase their love, respect and affection for a guy who is sleeping around. You seem to be confusing being with a guy who other women want to f**k with being with a guy who is out f**king other women. There’s a big difference here. We like having guys who are attractive to other women but are faithful to us. Such a guy is more likely to motivate us to keep his interest on us, staying in shape being attractive etc, but if he’s out sleeping with other women despite those efforts, then what’s the point? A lot of women will just find someone else and move on.

What women say and what they do are completely different things.

They will say that they want a nice guy but then bang a drug addict with three kids who just got out of jail.

Women like you are why guys are on this site. Tired of the lying that women do. Women need to be honest that they like cheaters and players. I can give you dozens of examples of women who dated guys who they knew were serial cheaters. In a woman’s mind, if you’re a cheater you have high SMV.

To answer your question - women want a guy who’s sleeping with other women cause they are competitive. Their interest dips when he becomes devoted to them completely because it shows his lack of options.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What women say and what they do are completely different things.

They will say that they want a nice guy but then bang a drug addict with three kids who just got out of jail.

Women like you are why guys are on this site. Tired of the lying that women do. Women need to be honest that they like cheaters and players. I can give you dozens of examples of women who dated guys who they knew were serial cheaters. In a woman’s mind, if you’re a cheater you have high SMV.

To answer your question - women want a guy who’s sleeping with other women cause they are competitive. Their interest dips when he becomes devoted to them completely because it shows his lack of options.

"Girls" but some are girls till they die

 

[mrgoodstuff]

We don’t know if she truly respects him, we just know that she stayed with him.

And I’m referring to regular women, not celebs where marriages and relationships are as much about publicity as they are about anything else. (Will she leave TT? Let’s follow her Instagram and watch her show to find out.) Remember, any publicity is good publicity and the only reason why the Karadashians are even famous is because of a ‘leaked’ sex tape. The mother was a big part of getting the show started, What does that tell you about their values?

So not a good representative of women in general.

Regular women who are not low value won’t increase their love, respect and affection for a guy who is sleeping around. You seem to be confusing being with a guy who other women want to f**k with being with a guy who is out f**king other women. There’s a big difference here. We like having guys who are attractive to other women but are faithful to us. Such a guy is more likely to motivate us to keep his interest on us, staying in shape being attractive etc, but if he’s out sleeping with other women despite those efforts, then what’s the point? A lot of women will just find someone else and move on.

AJ84, party girls, bar hoez and hoez in general respond positively to a man having other women.

 

[AJ84]

What women say and what they do are completely different things.

They will say that they want a nice guy but then bang a drug addict with three kids who just got out of jail.

Women like you are why guys are on this site. Tired of the lying that women do. Women need to be honest that they like cheaters and players. I can give you dozens of examples of women who dated guys who they knew were serial cheaters. In a woman’s mind, if you’re a cheater you have high SMV.

To answer your question - women want a guy who’s sleeping with other women cause they are competitive. Their interest dips when he becomes devoted to them completely because it shows his lack of options.

Women like me? You don’t know me. Who ever hurt you, rejected you etc, I’m not her, so direct your bitterness somewhere else.

Like I stated in my previous post, women like men who are attractive to other women but they don’t want them sleeping with those other women. Unless they have no value. Women with actual value and brain cells don’t want to be with a cheater. This is common knowledge to anyone with some real relationship experience.
And if you’re thinking all women have low value, then you may want to consider where you are meeting the women you encounter.
A guy doesn’t have to be a puppy dog worshiping her butt, that’s not attractive, but most women don’t want some guy who treats her like an after thought or only wants her for sex. There’s a balance of being ‘devoted’ and having boundaries with women.
Certain women put up with cheaters and players but those kinds of women also put out a lot of crap and drama themselves. Basically low value women who give guys headaches with their bs.
Maybe your experience has been different and this is why you are generalizing I don’t know.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Women like me? You don’t know me. Who ever hurt you, rejected you etc, I’m not her, so direct your bitterness somewhere else.

Like I stated in my previous post, women like men who are attractive to other women but they don’t want them sleeping with those other women. Unless they have no value. Women with actual value and brain cells don’t want to be with a cheater. This is common knowledge to anyone with some real relationship experience.
And if you’re thinking all women have low value, then you may want to consider where you are meeting the women you encounter.
A guy doesn’t have to be a puppy dog worshiping her butt, that’s not attractive, but most women don’t want some guy who treats her like an after thought or only wants her for sex. There’s a balance of being ‘devoted’ and having boundaries with women.
Certain women put up with cheaters and players but those kinds of women also put out a lot of crap and drama themselves. Basically low value women who give guys headaches with their bs.
Maybe your experience has been different and this is why you are generalizing I don’t know.

AJ84. Most of the guys on this site are here because they are dealing with this "headache" style of "girl" that your talking about. One that accepts her guy is probably cheating because she is too.

 

[skinnyguy]

AJ84. Most of the guys on this site are here because they are dealing with this "headache" style of "girl" that your talking about. One that accepts her guy is probably cheating because she is too.

Exactly. It’s mind boggling how many girls cheat with other guys who have gfs as well.

There are “quality” women my age but they got married 10 years ago.

 

[user43770]

There are “quality” women my age but they got married 10 years ago.

Yeah, man. After a certain age we're all left with scraps and half-eaten bones.

Still tastes pretty good, though. Sample, don't buy.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah, man. After a certain age we're all left with scraps and half-eaten bones.

Still tastes pretty good, though. Sample, don't buy.

They all have barnacles, barbs and hooks like alien sea creatures. Extract your meat without being damaged.

 

[user43770]

They all have barnacles, barbs and hooks like alien sea creatures. Extract your meat without being damaged.

Hahaha