"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How many women are actually decent with finances?

bigdave17

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I'm curious about this because I have no meaningful long term dating experience


How many women are any good with finances? As in they're able to live within their means, actually save some money, have no debt, etc....? I'm phenomenal with finances... I should be a millionaire by the time I'm 37-40 and it honestly terrifies me to date some chick who is a compulsive spender or super high maintenance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not cheap by any means - I have a very nice car, very nice clothes but I try to look for a bargain, don't waste money on stupid bullsh*t, keep my cars for 5-8 years, etc... I feel like I do a great job of balancing frugal with still have a great quality of life. I vacation 8 times a year, etc...

Should I care a lot about how much money they make themselves if I don't want to be taken advantage of?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your first step is to lose your virginity. I told you that needs to happen by Sunday. Got any girls lined up?

All of your questions follow the same pattern:

1. GayDave asks a question based in fear.
2. GayDave uses the question as a platform to tell SS how rich or good looking he is or how he is better than the majority of people out there so he can feel better about himself.
3. GayDave is full of reasons not to do something.
 

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Why does every thread have to involve how great you are? Serious question. Are you like this in real life or do you just save all this homo speech for us online?
 

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Your first step is to lose your virginity. I told you that needs to happen by Sunday. Got any girls lined up?

All of your questions follow the same pattern:

1. GayDave asks a question based in fear.
2. GayDave uses the question as a platform to tell SS how rich or good looking he is or how he is better than the majority of people out there so he can feel better about himself.
3. GayDave is full of reasons not to do something.
Well you know his PLAN to get the woman he wants HAS to be successful. There's no way in the world there would've been a better way to do things. Right?
 

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Your first step is to lose your virginity. I told you that needs to happen by Sunday. Got any girls lined up?

All of your questions follow the same pattern:

1. GayDave asks a question based in fear.
2. GayDave uses the question as a platform to tell SS how rich or good looking he is or how he is better than the majority of people out there so he can feel better about himself.
3. GayDave is full of reasons not to do something.
ive had sex with 12 to 15 women, all way below my league

im not a virgin though
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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But the girls "in your league" want nothing to do with you... because you're actually below their league.

Don't you see this?
hhmmm I've had some 6 to 7/10 women approach me recently. They're good looking enough but not my type

1 was blonde and too tall (I like dark mediteranean features and normal height like 5'2 to 5'8)

1 was too dumb/trashy

I stopped having sex with women unless they're good enough to date. I feel it is immoral because women can't do casual sex. They always want a relationship
 

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There are many that have their own apartments/homes, cars etc. so some aren't too bad with finances. A lot have a propensity for spending their money on a lot of bull**** though, ridiculously expensive designer bags and shoes for example.
 

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There are many that have their own apartments/homes, cars etc. so some aren't too bad with finances. A lot have a propensity for spending their money on a lot of bull**** though, ridiculously expensive designer bags and shoes for example.
I like shoes and fancy stuff too but everything within reason
 

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I like shoes and fancy stuff too but everything within reason
It's important. You should dress well, good shoes are something worth the money. I have a coule of nice designer leather shoes I bought but I don't think I ever spent more than $300 or so. Can't fathom how some women think spending $700+ on pumps is a smart.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's important. You should dress well, good shoes are something worth the money. I have a coule of nice designer leather shoes I bought but I don't think I ever spent more than $300 or so. Can't fathom how some women think spending $700+ on pumps is a smart.
there are women who spend 700 dollars on shoes?


 

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Here is my experience:

Some women are very responsible with their finances. I've known some who saved and invested huge percentages of their income, and others who didn't invest much but could run their household budget efficiently. Generally speaking though, they are in the minority. Most women are very impulsive, and that is why they have a tendency to run up their credit cards. That is why there are channels on TV dedicated to selling things to women. Some guys are also impulsive like this, and can't handle money.

I know one woman who was very responsible with her money, but went through a phase where she started spending money like water. Then she later got it back in control again. I'd say if you find a woman who can control her spending, she is a catch (of sorts, depending on her other attributes).
 
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