"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kinda bored with lack of decent value girls

MoreThanSmooth

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I thought about it today and it's actually been ages since I've met a girl I'd say was "high value". GF material level.

By that I mean:

- Someone I consider physically attractive.
- A girl who can hold a conversation and has a somewhat interesting set of hobbies and ambitions.
- A woman with a sense of humour that appeals to me.

I know the obvious property of high value girls is that they're going to be rarer, but even so, in the last couple of years I've maybe met 3 girls I'd genuinely want to date any more than short term.

Not sure if I'm just too picky and maybe too lofty for my own good, or if there's just s**t choice around me atm.

The weird thing is though, I'm just very static at present. Kind of can't be as*ed dating because it feels like the options I have right now are a waste of time even if I did get laid with them - I don't see the point in chasing chicks I don't find particularly exciting.

I don't see sh*gging a bunch of "4's and 5's" (overall attractiveness, personality etc) as any kind of achievement, much less chasing them.

I'm thinking I might just drop dating for the next 3 months and get myself lean and aesthetic instead. If I'm not getting value chicks I probably need to improve myself further, right? But it's also boring asf doing that...getting the gym discipline is the hardest thing I think.

I'm going to sleep, I think I'm just talking s**t.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I thought about it today and it's actually been ages since I've met a girl I'd say was "high value". GF material level.

By that I mean:

- Someone I consider physically attractive.
- A girl who can hold a conversation and has a somewhat interesting set of hobbies and ambitions.
- A woman with a sense of humour that appeals to me.

I know the obvious property of high value girls is that they're going to be rarer, but even so, in the last couple of years I've maybe met 3 girls I'd genuinely want to date any more than short term.

Not sure if I'm just too picky and maybe too lofty for my own good, or if there's just s**t choice around me atm.

The weird thing is though, I'm just very static at present. Kind of can't be as*ed dating because it feels like the options I have right now are a waste of time even if I did get laid with them - I don't see the point in chasing chicks I don't find particularly exciting.

I don't see sh*gging a bunch of "4's and 5's" (overall attractiveness, personality etc) as any kind of achievement, much less chasing them.

I'm thinking I might just drop dating for the next 3 months and get myself lean and aesthetic instead. If I'm not getting value chicks I probably need to improve myself further, right? But it's also boring asf doing that...getting the gym discipline is the hardest thing I think.

I'm going to sleep, I think I'm just talking s**t.
Going to the gym or getting leaner should only be for yourself, not to get women. When guys get the motivation to go because of women or wanting better looking women, they're never consistent. Or when they do get a woman, they just stop going all together.

Having said that, you should still try to find the motivation to go consistently. There are a lot of beneficial side effects with women if you're at least moderately muscular and lean. Don't know if you'll find higher quality women to date though. My experience tells me no.
 

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The pickens are slim. Get more exposure. Take yourself out for dinner everyday if you can afford it. That will increase your odds.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Water seeks it's own level. If you only attract $hit, it's time to take a good look at the person in the mirror. What value do you bring to the table? Education? Great looks? Smooth talker?

What is up with guys blaming everyone else but themselves lately?
 

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Pick base on character - their hobbies.

The rest is just details.
Yes, It's dead easy to find attractive and charming ones....dime a dozen!:p

Character and integrity though....

It's near impossible.:(
 

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Water seeks it's own level. If you only attract $hit, it's time to take a good look at the person in the mirror. What value do you bring to the table? Education? Great looks? Smooth talker?

What is up with guys blaming everyone else but themselves lately?
Some guys chose off looks alone . Hence their issue.
 

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Yes, It's dead easy to find attractive and charming ones....dime a dozen!:p

Character and integrity though....

It's near impossible.:(
A wholesome gurl will almost never be "hot". They exist . "Hot" girls do similar things because they are each other's peers. They aren't "hot" to be all helpful and honest, they do it for privilege and freebies.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes, It's dead easy to find attractive and charming ones....dime a dozen!:p

Character and integrity though....

It's near impossible.:(
They exist.

Which is why I've mentioned in some of my posts - don't go looking for girls in bars, or those that's preoccupied with nightlife.

I estimate that women who frequently hangs out in clubs/bars or engages in social night life accounts to roughly 30% of females.

There's 70% out there that does other things or has a healthier lifestyle that suits you.

Perhaps it's time for some of you to broaden your horizons ?
 

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They exist.

Which is why I've mentioned in some of my posts - don't go looking for girls in bars, or those that's preoccupied with nightlife.

I estimate that women who frequently hangs out in clubs/bars or engages in social night life accounts to roughly 30% of females.

There's 70% out there that does other things or has a healthier lifestyle that suits you.

Perhaps it's time for some of you to broaden your horizons ?
So your selection is a female who does NOT partake in nightlife. That makes alot of sense.
 

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You guys want GF material but search in places where's it's highly unlikely those women to have those traits.

What does that say abt your hunting grounds ?
 

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Perhaps it's time for some of you to broaden your horizons ?
yep, I'm thinking of going to the south pole to check out chicks there...

 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Haha try out the bookstore closest 2 you 1st or even join in one of those nature/travelling clubs, lots of girls there.
It's cool...these food service worker chicks are alright...thinking of all the jerks they have to deal with day in day out...that should possibly build some character.

mini FR: I met a new one at one of the PF Chang's, the other night! Another brunette with minimal makeup, and not skanky/slutty...(her pants aren't so tight to suffocate her ass.) Seems like a cool chick, but she's young and has trouble with her emotions! She lost her sh!t couple days ago, and bolted! Saw her yesterday, she seems to have it together now. Lolz!:p

We'll see.:D
 

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They are rare. Women higher in quality have more stable attachments and so tend to be in LTR's more than not. On top of that, women that meet the standards that we as DJ's should accept at a minimum are rare anyway. I met one in a year of dating and I'm still with her for now. Not even sure I could be bothered putting in the effort if I became single again. As great as my girlfriend is, it took a while to meet her. At the end of the day, there are no unicorns either so even with a high quality woman, you've still gotta game right and be high value. The only reason I don't stick to plate spinning is because I don't enjoy it. It makes so much more sense though, I wish I did.
 

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What is up with guys blaming everyone else but themselves lately?
Well evidently you didn’t read the bit where I said “Maybe I need to spend some time improving myself”, because I never “blamed everyone else” at any point. Your sentiment is valid, though, yes.

They exist.

Which is why I've mentioned in some of my posts - don't go looking for girls in bars, or those that's preoccupied with nightlife.

I estimate that women who frequently hangs out in clubs/bars or engages in social night life accounts to roughly 30% of females.

There's 70% out there that does other things or has a healthier lifestyle that suits you.

Perhaps it's time for some of you to broaden your horizons ?
Yeah, the reason I have these “unrealistic” expectations is because I’ve met some of these girls and now I just don’t feel it with women who aren’t as awesome.

My ex was feisty, and would take the p*ss, genuinely make me laugh and was also (IMO) really hot.

Since then I just don’t enjoy trying to date some girl that doesn’t even understand my vocabulary, or whose only interest is Marvel movies...
 

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Similar to the job market, it's a race to the bottom.

Lots of bottom feeders, low hanging fruit, dead ends or go nowhere.

Problem solve. Not only good jobs? Start a biz?

No good women? Get better no bitter.

Yes, tons of low status entitled women. They are called practice.

I. Terms of self knowledge, fitness, athleticism, lifestyle, resources, etc you have work to do.

We all do.


Every problem is handled by next set!

Not in the mood? Some other girl is. Many girls are past the date of expiration and some cuck is marrying her. The prince for example.

Booty call. Not swear away half your **** on a divorcee, destructive family unit, product of a single mom. Beyond cratered smv.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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