Learn from mistake of AFCs

[ohrein]

I dont think it should solely be your responsibility to keep things fun while she does nothing and pretends to have no agency.

It's not about agency, it's about leadership. The man leads, period. Being asked to make decisions isn't just a sh1t test, it's an expectation for you to be a man, always. If you think a woman is going to lead your relationship and keep it fun and interesting, you're gonna have a bad time. You can complain about it as much as you want, but it is how it is.

 

[ohrein]

And the verdict on how not to have a sexless marriage?

Most importantly, be alpha. But also, you have to lead. You have to keep it fun and interesting. A woman won't do it for you. Now, I've never been married and the longest relationship I've been in was a bit over two years, but from my observations and from what Rollo says, that seems to be the only insulation. But attraction and sexual appetite both fade over time so it simply will never be like the start of a relationship with a young woman.

 

[Spaz]

And the verdict on how not to have a sexless marriage?

Is not to worry abt having a sexless marriage. Just maintain and grow your own level of hotness that women find attractive.

Women worry more abt it then men do. If a man doesn't want s€x with her then he's getting it somewhere else.

She'll do more then just spread her legs to keep you addicted to her, she'll do anything.

 

[R.U.G.]

And the verdict on how not to have a sexless marriage?

Don't get married and know when to exit a relationship when it's FUBAR.

 

[R.U.G.]

Most importantly, be alpha. But also, you have to lead. You have to keep it fun and interesting. A woman won't do it for you. Now, I've never been married and the longest relationship I've been in was a bit over two years, but from my observations and from what Rollo says, that seems to be the only insulation. But attraction and sexual appetite both fade over time so it simply will never be like the start of a relationship with a young woman.

If the woman is fvcked up and bipolar, you're screwed. Especially when she will not even help herself. If a woman cannot help herself, how the hell could she help or better a relationship. No marriage or LTR is ever cookie cutter or easy. Even Rollo bar Tomassi even said marriage is very hard and needs a lot of work on both sides. A man cannot keep a marriage together when a woman does nothing.

 

[R.U.G.]

women want to desire you

satiating that desire destroys it, for by definition desire is a need to be satiated by something one does not have. one cannot desire something that one possesses

its the great paradox of "True love"

when you entera relationship, your girl desires to possess you AND seeks to desire you. yet these 2 things cannot be fulfilled simultaneously.

if you love her unconditionally, her desire is satiated and your relationship slowly atrophies into a pit of fights, nagging, resentment and power struggles.
if you dont love her enough, she'll fall into the arms of a more charming man or resent you enough to walk away

one of the great ironies of life. the comfort and stability we seek in relationships becomes the kiss of death for it

Basically, it's a catch-22. A man cannot win. It's a trap best not played unless you enjoy Russian Roulette.

 

[ohrein]

If the woman is fvcked up and bipolar, you're screwed. Especially when she will not even help herself. If a woman cannot help herself, how the hell could she help or better a relationship. No marriage or LTR is ever cookie cutter or easy. Even Rollo bar Tomassi even said marriage is very hard and needs a lot of work on both sides. A man cannot keep a marriage together when a woman does nothing.

True, good point. But I think that mostly comes from screening and choosing correctly. If a woman has self control, empathy and family values, she will by default be open to your leadership and will assist you in the relationship.

But you're right, I doubt anything long term can ever be easy or formulaic. People can change, people can conceal themselves, etc, etc. But while 50% of marriages fail, 50% succeed. High SMV, alpha mentality, leadership and choosing the right woman will give you the best odds. Rollo's marriage seems to be going fine for now so who knows. Will be interesting to see how that develops in the future.

 

[R.U.G.]

True, good point. But I think that mostly comes from screening and choosing correctly. If a woman has self control, empathy and family values, she will by default be open to your leadership and will assist you in the relationship.

But you're right, I doubt anything long term can ever be easy or formulaic. People can change, people can conceal themselves, etc, etc. But while 50% of marriages fail, 50% succeed. High SMV, alpha mentality, leadership and choosing the right woman will give you the best odds. Rollo's marriage seems to be going fine for now so who knows. Will be interesting to see how that develops in the future.

I believe Rollo has an open marriage. I am not a religious person, however, if I walked in and saw someone inside my then wife, I would do something I'd later regret. You'd be surprised how good women are at acting. They will sell you a bill a goods and then change the inventory once they think they got you by the balls. It's best not to play the game.

 

[devilkingx2]

And the verdict on how not to have a sexless marriage?

don't date girls that don't like sex (that is to say, be wary of the reasons a woman would have a low N count, take a really long time to give it up, require a lot of commitment, etc. avoid girls doing things solely to please you or lock you down instead of out of at least partially a genuine desire, because once the honeymoon phase is over pleasing you will mean a lot less to her and once she feels you're locked down there's no point in acting like she's still trying to)

dump girls who suddenly stop liking sex (if your sex life starts slowing down without legit reason plan your exit strategy and start running dread. if she has food poisoning and doesn't wanna have sex one week that's okay. if she has a headache 3 days a week for a year on the other hand...)

try to avoid girls with an obsession with the shiny and new, unless you are a human kamasutra. if she's the type to get bored and need a new guy/d!ck every 3 months or so then she's the type that's gonna have you on a unicycle juggling swords and torches on a tightrope to keep the fire alive

 

[MrWood]

avoid girls with an obsession with the shiny and new
dump girls who suddenly stop liking sex

this

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Word. John Cena looks like a genius for making his chick sign that 75 page agreement before she moved in

Guys, John Cena has figured it out . If you must be married a 74 page prenup is the ONLY way. Clauses for breakdown of duties, also intimacy and cheating. If anyone of these are violated it's annulled with her getting nothing.

 

[logicallefty]

"He is such a bore, all he wants to do is sit around and watch Netflix. Yeah, I know he thought I looked good even when I was overweight but that's not the life I want. I dont want to settle with some guy, I want to look good, have an exciting life, and date hot men".

Here is the harsh reality about this. If this woman wants to have an exciting life and go date all kinds of hot men, she has every right to do that. But with that comes a price of her being able to support herself financially and not have a permanent male partner. This is where the breakdown occurs. Most women are not capable of being financially independent. I know single women who make 60-70k a year who are still struggling because they can not manage money, even with that good salary. I know others who got on State assistance the day they divorced their husband. They went from living in a 250k house having a great life to a 2 bedroom apartment in the ghetto with 3 x kids and have to sleep on the couch or share a room with a kid. So where you gonna bring the men home to, I ASK? CASE IN POINT: Men can have their cake and eat it too. We can support ourselves financially, AND, go live the single life and tap multiple women as we please. Most women who want independence from a man can not handle it on their own once they are truly on their own. So I wish this woman luck. But 100 bux says she will either have to go back to a man or get on State aid if she wants to eat and have a roof over her head.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

don't date girls that don't like sex (that is to say, be wary of the reasons a woman would have a low N count, take a really long time to give it up, require a lot of commitment, etc. avoid girls doing things solely to please you or lock you down instead of out of at least partially a genuine desire, because once the honeymoon phase is over pleasing you will mean a lot less to her and once she feels you're locked down there's no point in acting like she's still trying to)

dump girls who suddenly stop liking sex (if your sex life starts slowing down without legit reason plan your exit strategy and start running dread. if she has food poisoning and doesn't wanna have sex one week that's okay. if she has a headache 3 days a week for a year on the other hand...)

try to avoid girls with an obsession with the shiny and new, unless you are a human kamasutra. if she's the type to get bored and need a new guy/d!ck every 3 months or so then she's the type that's gonna have you on a unicycle juggling swords and torches on a tightrope to keep the fire alive

True, every one commits to their typical patterns .