"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Do we put too much pressure on ourselves to come up with the perfect thing to say to a woman?

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I was in line today at grocery store and there was a younger cashier (wasn't really cute but wasn't ugly) so I just chatted her up for a bit. My opening line was just "how is your day going" and we went from there. Simple common sense conversation and I could tell she liked me instantly

The thing that drew her to me I think was I felt really good...felt very positive, confident, upbeat, etc... That mixed with me not caring made me come across in a genuine way also (because I wasn't trying to hit on her)

I think my point is that 90% of how women judge you is all based on how you feel about yourself. How we feel is extremely contagious so perhaps we should stop worrying about the perfect pickup line and just say whatever the hell we want and trust that the other person will like us?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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90% of this guys posts say "we" when he should be saying "I."

And they also seem like they come from the Andromeda Galaxy.

Lucky for him he's the most beautiful male specimen ever to walk the Earth.
 

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I think my point is that 90% of how women judge you is all based on how you feel about yourself.
very true. The world is a mirror. If you genuinely like yourself, no rejection or embarrassment, socially, can hurt your self esteem.
 

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I think my point is that 90% of how women judge you is all based on how you feel about yourself. How we feel is extremely contagious so perhaps we should stop worrying about the perfect pickup line and just say whatever the hell we want and trust that the other person will like us?
@bigdave17 is starting to get it.

Keep talking to women like this. Eventually you will feel so good about the interaction you WILL ask for the number. You may get rejected 90% of the time when you ask for the number, but that's okay, you are building your self esteem and your internal belief of your value and self worth.

Small TALK every day to as many women as possible. This is a process. You do this and you will get there naturally
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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@bigdave17 is starting to get it.

Keep talking to women like this. Eventually you will feel so good about the interaction you WILL ask for the number. You may get rejected 90% of the time when you ask for the number, but that's okay, you are building your self esteem and your internal belief of your value and self worth.

Small TALK every day to as many women as possible. This is a process. You do this and you will get there naturally

i think im gonna approach dating similar way to making friends

I talk to people, see if we have great chemistry, see if we would be a good fit for friendship and if they're in right stage in life, then I ask for their number

I think the blind spray attack of asking out every woman you encounter is silly and will lead tons of rejection
 

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i think im gonna approach dating similar way to making friends

I talk to people, see if we have great chemistry, see if we would be a good fit for friendship and if they're in right stage in life, then I ask for their number

I think the blind spray attack of asking out every woman you encounter is silly and will lead tons of rejection
The only thing flawed about this approach is that 90% of the time a female will friend zone you because you are taking to long to get to know her as a ' friend'.

Definitely keep taking to women, that is your first step. As you are chatting a woman up, try to DELICATELY ask about the things that are important to you in a woman. Only do that if it really fits (is not forced) into the conversation.

In every carc, if the conversation feels good, ask for the number.

Remember, is called DATING because that's all you are doing... You are dating to get to know someone to see if you want something more.

Don't spend too much time making "friends" with a chick. If you do that, their panties go dry for you, and they look for a tingle elsewhere. If the covo feels good, strike and ask for the number.
 

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The only thing flawed about this approach is that 90% of the time a female will friend zone you because you are taking to long to get to know her as a ' friend'.

Definitely keep taking to women, that is your first step. As you are chatting a woman up, try to DELICATELY ask about the things that are important to you in a woman. Only do that if it really fits (is not forced) into the conversation.

In every carc, if the conversation feels good, ask for the number.

Remember, is called DATING because that's all you are doing... You are dating to get to know someone to see if you want something more.

Don't spend too much time making "friends" with a chick. If you do that, their panties go dry for you, and they look for a tingle elsewhere. If the covo feels good, strike and ask for the number.
You didn't understand what I said correctly

I'm not saying to go after women like im trying to be friends but more approach dating in similar process to how I approach making friends

with making friends, I don't go for kill immediately...i try to see if we are a good fit first
 

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You didn't understand what I said correctly

I'm not saying to go after women like im trying to be friends but more approach dating in similar process to how I approach making friends

with making friends, I don't go for kill immediately...i try to see if we are a good fit first
Hmmmm. Different definitions then.

It takes me time to make a friend. Maybe that's a fundamental difference between men and women.

Carry on
 
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