"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's unbelievable how much harder it is to get women in 23-30 range than 33-40+

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You look fine. It's probably your thinking. I bet once you get to a point where you are not mad at women, but you understand them for who they are, and you don't want one or don't even care any more that you will be beating them off with a stick.
I'm not mad at women...I encounter plenty of women who like me but they're never anything close to who I could consider dating

A lot of it is my own fault because I hate approaching...I want it to be easy and hot women in their 20s never make it easy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"hot women" and "good relationship" usually don't go together. A "hot woman" is usually not going to treat you better and they'll normally cheat. Ask the guys.
 

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"hot women" and "good relationship" usually don't go together. A "hot woman" is usually not going to treat you better and they'll normally cheat. Ask the guys.
that's mostly stereotypical nonsense. My best friend is dating a beautiful Lebanese woman who is a phenomenal girlfriend...very very loyal. I have 2 gorgeous sisters who are fantastic wives and moms

There are both ugly and beautiful people who are both quality people and douchebags. None of it is mutually exclusive
 

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that's mostly stereotypical nonsense. My best friend is dating a beautiful Lebanese woman who is a phenomenal girlfriend...very very loyal. I have 2 gorgeous sisters who are fantastic wives and moms

There are both ugly and beautiful people who are both quality people and douchebags. None of it is mutually exclusive
In America it's usually true. It's the culture. Now in your example you mentioned beautiful ethnic women. I bet in the culture they treat their men good.
 

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In America it's usually true. It's the culture. Now in your example you mentioned beautiful ethnic women. I bet in the culture they treat their men good.
I only want an ethnic woman though to be honest

I see tons and tons of older white couples at my job...**** white women age so horribly. Hard to find one who is attractive after 40. I see ethnic women at 60 I would still bang
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Trendy" as in your fashion is up to date? Your probably dressed more like the 20-29 years olds are. That shows how powerful that dressing a certain way is.
Its very upto date. Alot of girls in their 20s compliment on how I dress and look. They sometimes won't leave me alone. It's the girls in their early to mid 30s that I want to sleep with and have a relationship with.
 

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Its very upto date. Alot of girls in their 20s compliment on how I dress and look. They sometimes won't leave me alone. It's the girls in their early to mid 30s that I want to sleep with and have a relationship with.

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no man on the planet has success with hot women in their 20s and not with women in their 30s, fuk off and die you troll
 

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no man on the planet has success with hot women in their 20s and not with women in their 30s, fuk off and die you troll
Bigdave17, Please check your PM.
 

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dude he is mocking me, that was not a serious post

I dress very sharp/trendy and I still have zero success with women my age

I don't have the heavy facial hair anymore. I know I look way older with it
You look like a swarthy cab driver, so decent-looking Nordic women are not going to be interested.
 

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You look like a swarthy cab driver, so decent-looking Nordic women are not going to be interested.

swarthy cab driver? Cab drivers can afford 250 dollar dress shirts now?


I'm only interested in ethnic women - primarily women with similar olive complexion and dark skin like mine. Those nordic women you mentioned look old as hell by about 35-40
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Its very upto date. Alot of girls in their 20s compliment on how I dress and look. They sometimes won't leave me alone. It's the girls in their early to mid 30s that I want to sleep with and have a relationship with.
So your dress code fits in with fashionable 20-29 years olds? You probably have a pair of chucks and the right accessories.
 

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Mate, not my intention to be harsh but Niko Bellic from GTA 4 is not gonna look like the chad younger women wants, not even if he has a house, 5 cars and a rocket launcher to take down helicopters.

As somebody told you, they are herd creatures who follow the herd (peer group, media, her fat friend suggestions and so on).

You dont qualify for what currently is desired from that age group, while status and game will help if you're not there but close enough or give you a boost with older women, its not gonna do sh1t with the kesha type 22yrs old girl.

Been there done that, even if you do everything perfectly, the non stop sabotage from her friends is gonna win, let alone in a cold approach setting.
 

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Young white women like tall, skinny, white pretty boys with retarded, meaningless tattoos. And this is coming from a 27 y/o white guy.
 

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Your look is fine for any type of woman really. Some women like tall, dark, and handsome. Some women like white, lanky, pretty boys. Plenty of women exist in the world who will like your look.

You need to lose body fat and stop pedestaling young hot women. They are nothing special really. Your scarcity and belief system are your worst enemies.
 

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So your dress code fits in with fashionable 20-29 years olds? You probably have a pair of chucks and the right accessories.
Absolutely.

I'm only interested in white women - primarily women with similar white complexion and lighter skin like mine. Those ethnic women just want money, especially around 35-40.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Thays funny.

I consistently get approached by decent looking women over 20....I consistently see women over 20 who smile at me and clearly want to meet me. When I approach one, my success rate is huge

Females around 34 - 38 (which is what I want - I'm 39)...holy moly. It's like almost dealing with a different subspecies of people. I never get any approaching me...never see any giving me any signs of interest and never see any scenarios where an approach is easy. When I do approach one (which is very rare), they're never into me.

What's the deal with this? It's not like I look old...I look about 40 but I still have perfect complexion. I dress very trendy.
Your post reminds me of a conversation I had with my co-worker, single female aged 37, There's a guy at her gym that she's interested in. Chatted with him a bit and found out his age, 40. I asked if she was going to ask him out and she said no, she said he's very good looking and could date younger women so "there's no point." She's not even going to take a chance.

I wonder how many other single women in their 30s think like that and get deterred from even trying to date good looking men in their age group?

Maybe this applies to you? If you're getting hit on by 20 somethings then you probably have some looks. Not saying you should get ugly lol but maybe there's something to what my co-worker said.
 

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Your post reminds me of a conversation I had with my co-worker, single female aged 37, There's a guy at her gym that she's interested in. Chatted with him a bit and found out his age, 40. I asked if she was going to ask him out and she said no, she said he's very good looking and could date younger women so "there's no point." She's not even going to take a chance.
Your friend lacked the confidence as she has no/little success with good-looking men that age.

Confidence in one facet = Track record of success in that facet

Has nothing to do with her age, and everything to do with her SMV, though SMV for women generally falls with age.
 

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Your look is fine for any type of woman really. Some women like tall, dark, and handsome. Some women like white, lanky, pretty boys. Plenty of women exist in the world who will like your look.

You need to lose body fat and stop pedestaling young hot women. They are nothing special really. Your scarcity and belief system are your worst enemies.

I've lost a lot of weight from those pics. I look very very lean

I had a customer today at work who said I look like Billy Zane or a young Chaz Palminteri. His exact words were "I bet you have no problems with the ladies. You should be doing movies with your movie star good looks"

I wish I had a way to show you guys how I really look in real life. I'm much much more handsome in person than pics
 

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Your post reminds me of a conversation I had with my co-worker, single female aged 37, There's a guy at her gym that she's interested in. Chatted with him a bit and found out his age, 40. I asked if she was going to ask him out and she said no, she said he's very good looking and could date younger women so "there's no point." She's not even going to take a chance.

I wonder how many other single women in their 30s think like that and get deterred from even trying to date good looking men in their age group?

Maybe this applies to you? If you're getting hit on by 20 somethings then you probably have some looks. Not saying you should get ugly lol but maybe there's something to what my co-worker said.
holy **** stop responding to him. He's clearly mocking me by posting complete opposite of my posts

that's a bunch of nonsense anyways. Women in their 30s aggressively pursue me all the time. I wish I would get 10% of that from girls my age but it never happens

women in their 30s know their value is way way lower than that of 25 year olds so they know they have to aggressively pursue if they want anybody of quality.
 
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Your friend lacked the confidence as she has no/little success with good-looking men that age.

Confidence in one facet = Track record of success in that facet

Has nothing to do with her age, and everything to do with her SMV, though SMV for women generally falls with age.
Perhaps. She does seem a bit insecure.
SMV generally falls with age for both genders, but typically faster for women yes. However when men and women take care of themselves it shows as they age because they tend to stand out amongst their cohorts.

It's common to see pudgy middle aged men and women, it's not so common to see fit, well put together ones.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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