"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Gentleman, help me stop being scared of approaching hot women anywhere I go

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I've made huge strides last 5 years

-I used to be incapable of getting any woman attracted to me - I was able to get some uglies and fatties interested in me
-I used to be incapable of getting any decent looking woman attracted to me - I was able to attract some older women/women with kids
-I used to be incapable of getting any decent looking woman attracted to me who was my age and didn't have kids - I've started doing that with a very high success rate.

I need to make the last stride and be able to approach super hot girls with extreme confidence. How do I convince myself that the hot girl at my gym is just a normal person and probably wants to meet someone just as badly as I do?

Everytime I see somebody I really really want, I psyche myself out, tell myself that she is probably not single, that she likely has astronomical standards, etc...call it paralysis by analysis. I get so deep into my own head that I don't even have it in me to start talking to her
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If you are attractive to uglies, old women and general HB6s and below... You are attractive to ALL women. Get your stuff together and approach. You are your worst enemy.
 

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Tagging this for advice too. I’m attractive, trouble Segwaying my approaches. I’m no longer afraid of approaches because I’m legitimately pissed off that I deserve better. ... getting there though.... step 2?
 

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Pretty girls aren't that mean usually, surprisingly. You'll be fine
 

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If you are attractive to uglies, old women and general HB6s and below... You are attractive to ALL women. Get your stuff together and approach. You are your worst enemy.
thank you for the encouragement

I suspect this is true but getting my mind to fully believe it is so difficult. I see these super hot women at my gym and it's incredibly daunting to approach them.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Pretty girls aren't that mean usually, surprisingly.
That's true, pretty girls are used to boys being enamored of them, so they like to collect males to worship them. When another guy approaches them, they think "Oh good, here's another one to appreciate me". Why wouldn't they be polite?
 

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That's true, pretty girls are used to boys being enamored of them, so they like to collect males to worship them. When another guy approaches them, they think "Oh good, here's another one to appreciate me". Why wouldn't they be polite?
lol
 

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Nice job keeping at it after 5 full years! Many men will give up! A good way to approach is just to keep it light-hearted. Why not just walk up and start singing?! I thought this video was great for showing how you can just walk up to anyone on the street and start singing (in Russia of all places!) After the initial shock, they really enjoy it!
 

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Nice job keeping at it after 5 full years! Many men will give up! A good way to approach is just to keep it light-hearted. Why not just walk up and start singing?! I thought this video was great for showing how you can just walk up to anyone on the street and start singing (in Russia of all places!) After the initial shock, they really enjoy it!

I actually have good luck talking to women just being myself

I think most people can tell I'm a genuinely good person without being a ***** and I'm good looking and athletic so almost everybody who gets to know me is naturally drawn to me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OP when you do meet this woman your pedestalling in your mind, she will do something that will repulse you i am prewarning you!!!!!!

I have dated 2 of my "dream" women so far, and the last one i took out , i sub conciously got a bit flustered the whole day before the date

Anyway fast forward to the date ,,,, She Said C*NT in every sentence , ive never looked so much in disgust in my life, disgraced at myself and the time id wasted believing this woman was a princess

Then amazingly my DJ mode kicked in and i went full on indifferent, Due to this she constantly tried to validate herself to me

Its amazing how it works, she rode me all night and i ceased contact with the low value trash
 

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"Hi, I'm BigDave."
*she says something back*

Job done.

Actually I must admit that my most embarrassing approach fail is my voice. It's normally deep and fairly manly, but I've actually had it quaver a little with nerves when asking very hot girls out. Which doesn't usually impact the outcome, but it does dent the bold and badass vibe a little!

But it's just practice. It's just mentally realising that a girl you might find insanely attractive, other guys may not. So don't worry about it.

lmao bro, youd get locked up, friend zoned, restraining order the lot in the UK , probably go round telling there mates your funny as fck but they wouldnt let you bang
Imagine serenading a woman and just getting sectioned, lol. Though to be fair these Russian girls look a lot more fun to be around than your average British chick. Grass always greener I guess.
 

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lmao bro, youd get locked up, friend zoned, restraining order the lot in the UK , probably go round telling there mates your funny as fck but they wouldnt let you bang
Who would ever want to bang a girl from the UK ????????


Back on topic. One piece of advice I got that must have worked for me because I'm never psyched out by hot girls anymore: is just talk to EVERY girl. If you're on the bus, talk to the grandmother next to you, if you're at a club, talk to the fatties. The idea is that it's just part of your life to talk to every girl. Then when you see a super hot girl, you don't even think of it as talking to a hot girl, it's just doing your normal thing: talking to any girl that's near you.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Currently reading The Rational Male for the first time. There´s this sentence that stuck: "Rejection is better than regret".
 

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And now for a bit of levity for your pleasure...Here is a bit of therapy for you:

 

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I've made huge strides last 5 years

-I used to be incapable of getting any woman attracted to me - I was able to get some uglies and fatties interested in me
-I used to be incapable of getting any decent looking woman attracted to me - I was able to attract some older women/women with kids
-I used to be incapable of getting any decent looking woman attracted to me who was my age and didn't have kids - I've started doing that with a very high success rate.

I need to make the last stride and be able to approach super hot girls with extreme confidence. How do I convince myself that the hot girl at my gym is just a normal person and probably wants to meet someone just as badly as I do?

Everytime I see somebody I really really want, I psyche myself out, tell myself that she is probably not single, that she likely has astronomical standards, etc...call it paralysis by analysis. I get so deep into my own head that I don't even have it in me to start talking to her
Listen to Maps of meaning 9. Peterson depicts your issue. You have a archetype created and a woman cannot live up to what you've made her into and attempted to encapsulate. Her own ego will rebel against this.

If you ****ed a girl rotten and blew on her face, how much effort or ****s would you give thereafter? Approach every woman as if you had.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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