Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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What are the best OLD sites and apps?

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I've been on Tinder and Badoo. I get more and better looking matches with Badoo, but nothing compared to some of the hot girls other people have showed from OLD.

@guru1000 and @Amante Silvestre seem to be amongst the best guys here from OLD. What sites do they use? I think I saw guru with some site from Russia one time.

In person, I most commonly get called 7/10 in looks, although I have definitely been called worse (and better).
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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As I always say, OLD is about your pics.

Run your pics across photofeeler.com.

Any man with 80%+ attractiveness with all his pics, will do well.
Any man with 90%+attractiveness with all his pics will clean up.

Here's is an example of one day on one site with usually 50+ matches in the waiting.

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_2337_zpswie7tynd.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Here's an example of my effort to schedule a date: Notice, I don't respond to her (who btw is 20 years my junior) for almost a week to get her number as I simply don't have the time.

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_2338_zpsu4hbgpze.png.html?sort=3&o=1

Richard, I gave you good advise months ago in how to be an OLD king. I assume you did none of it.
 

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Looks carries the day in OLD apps like Tinder/Bumble. Its really simple. Hot or Not. Right swipe. Left Swipe. Your superior status and game doesn't enter into the equation before she swipes. Its entirely looks based so you better have superior looks if you want to clean house on there.

I'd guess most girls would consider me a 7 or an 8 on the looks scale. I get HB6's and 7's initiate contact quite frequently. Its only on an occasion that an HB8 would.

In real life settings, I get more attractive girls initiating contact than on OLD. My personality/game/status is put to use and makes up the difference.

Amante/guru- what would you consider yourselves....a 9?
 
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@Howiestern

All of my SS avatars are actual pics of me.

No, I don't consider myself a 9. By all of the feedback I get from women, they typically have me as an 8.

I do agree it all starts with looks. That's paramount with OLD. But that just opens up the conversation. "Game", or whatever we want to call it, pretty much sets the tone from there. At least I think.
I don't want to give off the gay vibe, but I'd say you are definitely in the top 5-12% of looks, plus your pics are great. I don't doubt you have solid game and know what you are doing with women. Its evident by what you post and how you dont get rattled by much on here. I'd say you are a good example of what the total package can accomplish and are correct about outdoing 80-90% of the competition.
 

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Amante/guru- what would you consider yourselves....a 9?
9 across the board.

But as you get into your 40s, getting 9s in their early 20s (in the context of OLD) becomes more difficult, as the men of my standing in their 30s are rocking that age group. There will always be a challenge, no matter who you are.

As I embrace challenge, I don't grab the low-hanging fruit.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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9 across the board.

But as you get into your 40s, getting 9s in their early 20s (in the context of OLD) becomes more difficult, as the men of my standing in their 30s are rocking that age group. There will always be a challenge, no matter who you are.

As I embrace challenge, I don't grab the low-hanging fruit.
"Your standing" means money?

Cause people sh1t on me for paying for it, but don't you think that the fact you're a multimillionaire stock broker has something to do with your success?
 

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"Your standing" means money?

Cause people sh1t on me for paying for it, but don't you think that the fact you're a multimillionaire stock broker has something to do with your success?
Standing as in across the board value.

I don't open/divulge money/status triggers as I try to avoid gold digging. Though, in time maybe after one or a few dates, by my lifestyle and attitude, they presume, but by then they have been properly vetted insofar as that she, a wonderful actress, didn't game me.

However, in the context of OLD first date scheduling, these women has no way of identifying money/status as (1) I don't divulge much; (2) Many guys on OLD misrepresent their stature.
 

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Bumble is best as the women have to message you first and there is no swipe limit. Tinder if you have game has the better quality chicks. I've had dates and sex from both apps. Plenty of fish is bottom of the barrel/fvcked up/weirdo chicks. I caught the clap off the HB5 and deleted that app, never again.
 
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Bumble is best as the women have to message you first and there is no swipe limit. Tinder if you have game has the better quality chicks. I've had dates and sex from both apps. Plenty of fish is bottom of the barrel/fvcked up/weirdo chicks. I caught the clap off the HB5 and deleted that app, never again.
I get no matches on Bumble. Girls in person tell me I'm 7/10 in looks, so Idk why.
 

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I get no matches on Bumble. Girls in person tell me I'm 7/10 in looks, so Idk why.
Spend 30 minutes swiping, pure swiping while watching a show or movie. You will get matches. Maybe it's not been adopted in america as well as in London? Literally every girl I meet out and about will be on Bumble if single, and most woul have met someone from there (or tinder) before.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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