Why the PUA industry will be dead in a decade

[Macaframalama]

Run across an interesting article and thought I would share. Most of the points he makes I had already thought, in regards to the gay, feminist and elitist agendas against masculinity, but had never made the correlation with PU directly. Thoughts? Also, thinking of buying the book. Does anyone here own it?
https://strengthbysonny.com/2017/03...hy-the-pua-industry-will-be-dead-in-a-decade/

 

[Macaframalama]

im no where near a conspiracy nut, but for example, the depopulation thing has been clear as day to me over the past few years. the war on men should be obvious to everyone here by now.

I'll admit, that I love a good conspiracy as much as the next, but the evidence is there with allot of this stuff nowadays. In allot of cases it's not even being hidden at all. I've had these suspicions for years now. It's one of the things, that have changed my perception of time.

one of the reasons i dont make my own game threads is because all the info IS ALREADY OUT THERE. everything you could possibly need has been said already. no one can offer anything new because there isnt anything new. you dont need to spend a dime on any pua stuff. like i always say, its not more information that men need. its MOTIVATION to DO.

I agree. The wheel doesn't need reinventing. Reemergence, maybe?.?. I can see myself, where some guys entering the game can get overwhelmed with so much information. There's allot of good info, as well as alot of bad. Spot on, the answer is to DO. Action. I don't understand why humans feel the need to go about things in the most inefficient, complex ways of going about things. No one said it's going to be easy, but it doesn't have to be complex either. There's a sucker born everyday and selling sexy is big business. Tariq Nasheeds' "The Art of Macking" was the first gaming related book I had read and alot of it still rings true in today and is relatively easy to put into comprehend and put into practice compared to alot of the stuff out here today. The descriptions of characters he used in the book may have changed and may seem very specific to a particular demographic, but women still want and need what women have always needed and wanted and I've applied alot of what I learned in the book across every type of woman I can think of, other than Asian women maybe.

what men lack today, is their masculine spirit. they rather blame external or perceived forces (race, money women) than the fact that they have no desire to actually DO. to actually BE MEN. so they rather come up with excuses.

This right here is the truth. The end all, be all. Action and doing. Masculinity can't truly be discovered without it. It's learned by being around other men. Better, stronger, smarter, more technically proficient, competent men and being challenged physically, intellectually and spiritually. I think that concept is scary to the majority. This is exactly, where truth resides. It threatens the ego and all it's lies.

 

[skinnyguy]

He’s right that Indian people are cheap and don’t want to buy the product, lol.

Since spam approaching is mainstream now, women don’t respond to it and think it’s creepy. Game doesn’t work most of the time.

The article is spot on about how porn, MGTOW, and being gay are better alternatives for betas. Society looks down upon you approaching women but if you have a gay lover you will be greatly respected.

 

[zekko]

Let's face it, in 10 years it will probably be illegal to even talk to a girl without permission - that will be considered sexual assault or grooming.
Only women will be able to initiate, probably through some sort of device where she will swipe right if she wants to allow you to talk to her.

The sex robot prediction is interesting, the only problem I see is that it will be difficult to get the cost down.

 

[Desdinova]

THE PUA INDUSTRY IS A DEGENERATE CULTURE THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY WIPED OUT IN 10 YEARS.

...And that's why he's trying to cash in on his book now.

 

[wifehunter]

'get rich quick' and PUA 'get laid quick'

Both are DOOMED to FAILURE for the same reasons.

 

[sosousage]

Run across an interesting article and thought I would share. Most of the points he makes I had already thought, in regards to the gay, feminist and elitist agendas against masculinity, but had never made the correlation with PU directly. Thoughts? Also, thinking of buying the book. Does anyone here own it?
https://strengthbysonny.com/2017/03...hy-the-pua-industry-will-be-dead-in-a-decade/

pick up as "picking up women from the street"? but there are a lot of other ways. parties,clubs,bars,tinder

getting ripped and getting game will always be foolproof way to get a puss

 

[sazc]

I think day game has become extremely risky in today's political climate, or at least that thought has buried in my psyche and made me extremely passive lately. As an introvert, I needed ideal conditions to approach anyway and now it seems less likely.

I don't see why daygame is risky - as long as you aren't lewd and don't touch.

Have you guys seen that Aziz Ansari article? Hopefully all of this #metoo stuff will push females into being more physically and verbally assertive in dating, when it comes to sex, et al., no so that you won't have to worry about missing those "non verbal cues" that lead to allegations of misconduct.

Non verbal cues... WTF? Next thing you know we will be required to correctly assume people's intentions based solely on their behavior. What a crock.

 

[Macaframalama]

THE PUA INDUSTRY IS A DEGENERATE CULTURE THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY WIPED OUT IN 10 YEARS.

...And that's why he's trying to cash in on his book now.

It could seem that way. The description on Amazon doesn't mention PU one time and claims to be about the war on masculinity. And he does put out allot of free content, to which I've only read 3 so far. The free workout routine at the end does seem cheesy as hell, but then again Jim Wendler has a pretty good overall philosophy on life that I wasn't expecting, when I bought his book for the lifting program. @deesade post, if he's falsely slamming others to make a sell, he won't be getting my dollars. All in all, the war on the PU industry isn't my main concern, as is the war on masculinity, but I also haven't made the connection, until the article. The practice of bagging women for sport is simulated masculinity imo anyways. That's not a knock, just from my childhood and teenage years the attention, that I witnessed my father and uncles receive from women was just a result of being masculine men and doing manly chit. I can't deny the social dynamic and the art of persuasion, that I picked up on even as a young kid, I just feel allot of times, it's made more complex, than it needs to be, with allot of the cheesiness that some PUA's push.

 

[zekko]

Have you guys seen that Aziz Ansari article? Hopefully all of this #metoo stuff will push females into being more physically and verbally assertive in dating, when it comes to sex, et al., no so that you won't have to worry about missing those "non verbal cues" that lead to allegations of misconduct.

I hadn't heard about this, so I Googled it. There are so many of these #metoo incidents lately, it's hard to keep up with them.
It sounds like Ansari might have possibly been a little insensitive, but he didn't force her into anything. If women don't want to have sex with a guy they're out on a date with, they need to start taking responsibility, and standing up for themselves. Not just blow the guy so she can get out of there, then later accuse him of assault. That's some weak sauce there.

 

[corrector]

The article contains some links such as these:
https://strengthbysonny.com/2015/07...social-life-part-iv-the-4-ways-to-meet-girls/

Honestly, I like the way that this is put over and think there are some "gem" links in the article itself that presents a realistic assessment and back to the drawing board sort of thing. I've booked marked the initial link. There are some nuggets of good information on there.

 

[Urbanyst]

The PUA industry will die primarily because it is based on fraud and voodoo manipulation tactics lol.

Women want what they want. You can use PUA tricks to temporarily manipulate a woman into seeing VALUE in you for the short term. But sooner or later a man's true VALUE is uncovered and the woman will know if this man is really what she wants. If she feels like she was tricked into liking him.. it doesn't go well either.

Looks, MONEY and status are your tickets to attracting HOT women regularly. As far as personality goes.. simply act confident rather than desperate. Don't be a sh*t head. Don't be FAKE. You will do fine.

Some might say.. why should they listen to Urbanyst when he has never had a LTR last longer than a year? I'll tell you the reason. With all the women I dated, I never wanted to be with them longer than a year because they were lame LTR material. The ones I really liked enough to stay with were either not compatible with me or not on the same page as me.

But I attract HOT women consistently. Not by using "game" but by just being an interesting and attractive man IRL.

 

[Macaframalama]

The article contains some links such as these:
https://strengthbysonny.com/2015/07...social-life-part-iv-the-4-ways-to-meet-girls/

Honestly, I like the way that this is put over and think there are some "gem" links in the article itself that presents a realistic assessment and back to the drawing board sort of thing. I've booked marked the initial link. There are some nuggets of good information on there.

Yea, he does seem to emphasize the fundamentals from the few articles I've read by him so far.

 

[Macaframalama]

The PUA industry will die primarily because it is based on fraud and voodoo manipulation tactics lol.

Women want what they want. You can use PUA tricks to temporarily manipulate a woman into seeing VALUE in you for the short term. But sooner or later a man's true VALUE is uncovered and the woman will know if this man is really what she wants. If she feels like she was tricked into liking him.. it doesn't go well either.

Looks, MONEY and status are your tickets to attracting HOT women regularly. As far as personality goes.. simply act confident rather than desperate. Don't be a sh*t head. Don't be FAKE. You will do fine.

Some might say.. why should they listen to Urbanyst when he has never had a LTR last longer than a year? I'll tell you the reason. With all the women I dated, I never wanted to be with them longer than a year because they were lame LTR material. The ones I really liked enough to stay with were either not compatible with me or not on the same page as me.

But I attract HOT women consistently. Not by using "game" but by just being an interesting and attractive man IRL.

I will agree with this, other than you cannot attract hot women regularly by mouth piece and swagger alone. You are correct in the ability to keep them on the hook but though. There's also the variable of quality being looked over. It's not too awful hard for your slightly above average looks party guys, that can sell salt to a snail, with jack chit else going for them, to bang hot chics pretty frequently. Finding and banging hot chics with their chit together is another story.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I think it will evolve into Men's Rights Activism and hopefully getting divorce laws changed.

 

[Macaframalama]

I think it will evolve into Men's Rights Activism and hopefully getting divorce laws changed.

I think this is already a thing. I'm not positive, but I think I recall reading something about it in Pooks old Blogspot.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

That's some serous Sun Tzu Outframing there...

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

PUA techniques will always be around.

There will always be dudes who are undersexed and want to get more sex.

There will always be entrepreneurs coming up with different theories.

There will always be guys buying these techniques but too scared to try them, which will make them endless customers of newly invented techniques.

For as long as heterosexual males get boners in their sleep, they will be keen on any product which implicitly or explicitly promises them more poon in one way or another.

For every single time a guy talks to a girl and fails, they'll be another guy selling him a method to do better next time.

The idea that any aspect of human nature will "vanish" is itself a con to sell stuff to people.

Scarcity (better buy some now, it will vanish in 10 years!) is always a good way to move products.

(although I've never seen a ten year scarcity angle before, usually they have some kind of count down timer on the website for maybe a day or two...)

 

[Macaframalama]

PUA techniques will always be around.

There will always be dudes who are undersexed and want to get more sex.

There will always be entrepreneurs coming up with different theories.

There will always be guys buying these techniques but too scared to try them, which will make them endless customers of newly invented techniques.

For as long as heterosexual males get boners in their sleep, they will be keen on any product which implicitly or explicitly promises them more poon in one way or another.

For every single time a guy talks to a girl and fails, they'll be another guy selling him a method to do better next time.

The idea that any aspect of human nature will "vanish" is itself a con to sell stuff to people.

Scarcity (better buy some now, it will vanish in 10 years!) is always a good way to move products.

(although I've never seen a ten year scarcity angle before, usually they have some kind of count down timer on the website for maybe a day or two...)

If you look past the surface level, you will see that it's about more, than PU. It's about morphing ideals and thoughts, changing norms and human nature itself. I'll go as far to say, that it's all about freedom and slavery.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I hope PUAs never go away, because making fun of them and the guys who follow them is one of the easiest subjects to talk about to women, especially to build comfort with very attractive women, who get hit on all the time, often quite awkwardly. The hotter a girl is, the more powerful the technique of making fun of other guys becomes, because that is the woman to whom men act the most ridiculous.

Study pickup all you like, and good for you if it helps you in life, but add it to the list of behaviors that you never confess to women, right along with buying wh0res and jacking off to porn.