Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Would you trade your sexual experiences for patriarchy

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What would you guys rather have?

1.) Patriarchy and be married to a solid 7.5/10 but you would have a very low notch count. You would also have limited sexual experiences because society would be conservative like it was in the 1950's. But your wife would be super traditional leave it to beaver style.

2.) The mess we are in now post feminism sexual revolution. Have a notch count of 50+ but cant find a quality girl to settle down with to save your life. But you have had sex with dozens of women, done all types of kinky stuff.

My white knight super liberal friend and I had a debate. He made a good point. He said that without the sexual revolution that we so despise, us men would not have been able to have much sex at all.
 
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'd take one without any hesitation. Is she down for fulfilling all wifely duties? Is she a prude on the streets but a wh*re in the bedroom? Does she defer to her man? Don't let anyone fool you my friend. The victorian age, there was way more sex going on than you might think. History has repainted it as this age of no sex but that's simply not true.
 

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I'd take one without any hesitation. Is she down for fulfilling all wifely duties? Is she a prude on the streets but a wh*re in the bedroom? Does she defer to her man? Don't let anyone fool you my friend. The victorian age, there was way more sex going on than you might think. History has repainted it as this age of no sex but that's simply not true.
I think I would agree with you bro. I think I would take 1 also. But we are saying this from the vantage point of having experienced the dystopia of option number 2. What is interesting is that every boy grows up with the idealism of option number 1. Most men were not born players, or born plate spinners. We were born romantic idealist like the Fred Savage character from Wonder Years ( Winnie Cooper type girl). So I think option number 1 is more natural.

I will also look up more information about the Victorian era. Someone mentioned it to me last night and it seemed very interesting. I will try to stay away from any revisionist history too lol.
 

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I would take 1 also. I've always found a good, healthy LTR to be far more satisfying than spinning plates.
 

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I take option 2, I finally understood how to take advantage of current day mess overall.

That kind of relationship life style would require me to adjust sides of my life style that I particularly appreciate right now.

Living in setting nr 1 would requires you to have good relationships with the neighbours, attend family meetings, be at home early, be a law abiding citizen in everything and so on.

I believe it all depends from what man are you, there is not right or wrong answer it just depends on you not any different than loving stable job or seeking a dinamic one.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I take option 2, I finally understood how to take advantage of current day mess overall.

That kind of relationship life style would require me to adjust sides of my life style that I particularly appreciate right now.

Living in setting nr 1 would requires you to have good relationships with the neighbours, attend family meetings, be at home early, be a law abiding citizen in everything and so on.

I believe it all depends from what man are you, there is not right or wrong answer it just depends on you not any different than loving stable job or seeking a dinamic one.
Hahaha if you lived in the time period of option 1, the community would warn their daughters about you. "Stay away from Who Dares Wins. He is trouble. He won't make a legitimate woman out of you". But on a serious note I understand what you are saying. It was probably very stifling for some men. You had to fit in this box of conformity. For rebellious types that conformity would be soul crushing. But thats just what men did. They all wore the same clothes and did the same things back then.
 

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The rubbish talk of patriarchy is a delusion.

We live in a matriarchy full of cratered SMV, "proud single mom" bios on tinder, and women who out weigh the majority of men like after 23.

Gents, the time of women and children first has ended. Trad is DEAD. Its not coming back and for those that buy into fake trad thots are the ones who will get ruined and cucked.
 

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Gents, the time of women and children first has ended. Trad is DEAD. Its not coming back and for those that buy into fake trad thots are the ones who will get ruined and cucked.
You're saying the age of chivalry is dead, which is true. But it's funny that we're now in the "age of the single mom" so women and children end up first anyway.
 

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Impossible question to answer, because whichever one you choose, you're always basing the other choice on imagination.

Both have their benefits, both have their drawbacks, and both of each (benefits and drawbacks) are impossible to understand without experiencing.

I would guess the middle ground would be the ideal choice. A slightly toned down Don Draper type. Nice traditional wife and kids in the suburbs, job in the city with access to side action.

That's essentially been the female choice since the dawn of time, the beta provider and the alpha on the side when possible.

Ultimately though, we've got what we've got, may as well make the best of it.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

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Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Considering your question, it's pick your poison. On the one hand, option one is a structure made by beta-males for the benefit of beta-males. Option two is a structure made by lesbians for the benefit of lesbians.
Made by lesbians for lesbians lol. Thats funny. Could you please explain?
 

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What would you guys rather have?

1.) Patriarchy and be married to a solid 7.5/10 but you would have a very low notch count. You would also have limited sexual experiences because society would be conservative like it was in the 1950's. But your wife would be super traditional leave it to beaver style.

2.) The mess we are in now post feminism sexual revolution. Have a notch count of 50+ but cant find a quality girl to settle down with to save your life. But you have had sex with dozens of women, done all types of kinky stuff.

My white knight super liberal friend and I had a debate. He made a good point. He said that without the sexual revolution that we so despise, us men would not have been able to have much sex at all.
Option 1 creates a better society.

Of course, to have that, it all starts inside the man. He has to have a purpose, and then his family helps him see that purpose through.
 

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Been married for 21 years with option one
If we got divorced or if she passed away I’d do option two now.
Marriage is a ton of work. I’d not get married again to anyone. Time to start a new direction and path
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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