Sex appeal is not really about words

[Urbanyst]

I bash the PUA community a lot for its FAKE and fraudulent tactics.

By the way.. I'm not even against men using fraud to attract and date women. My problem with this stuff is it becomes too much of a clown show and its usually not sustainable. It also makes guys feel like they can't be themselves around women, which is f*cked up.

There are many occasions where I've gotten laid without saying many words or even telling a girl how I feel about her at all. Using touch and close physical proximity usually sets the mood.

For example, when on a first date I will walk very close to a girl and get as close as possible when talking to her. This is to communicate I'm not going to be her friend or her orbiter so if she isn't feeling me this is the time to make it clear.

Another thing I do is "close talking" where I will get up in her face when I'm talking to her. It sets the mood for sex a lot faster. And I keep conversation very casual talking about random sh*t. But my proximity and eye contract communicates my confidence, VALUE and attraction to her and that I'm going to sleep with her.

Try it.

If you've never been called a creep.. its probably because you play it safe and don't exude sexual body language. Its also important to note that most women are trash. So you're kind of a fool if you use too much caution with how you engage them lol. Seriously.

 

[Urbanyst]

Depends on your skillset. I shoot out of my league based on my silver tongue alone. Of course, it is not sustainable as you said, but shows the power of it.

Nice. But are you sure its your silver tongue alone that's melting those panties?

 

[guru1000]

Urbanyst:

You mentioned numerous times that women are frauds.

Are you above committing fraud upon them, IF ever your interests warranted?

 

[Macaframalama]

Nice post. I like to use verbal, non-verbal communication or both simultaneously. Non-verbal is the safer bet, because if she rejects your advances, it's more subconscios, because it hasn't been solidified verbally. Once, you are shut down verbally, it's almost impossible to turn it around.

 

[Macaframalama]

Urbanyst:

You mentioned numerous times that women are frauds.

Are you above committing fraud upon them, IF ever your interests warranted?

Guru, not to hijack the thread, but I I'm about 3/4 of the way through reading "The Way Of Men" by Jack Donovan and it reminded me of what we were discussing the other day. Tactical/survival virtue vs metaphorical virtue, being a good man vs being good at being a man, etc. You should check it out and let me know what you think.

 

[guru1000]

Guru, not to hijack the thread, but I I'm about 3/4 of the way through reading "The Way Of Men" by Jack Donovan and it reminded me of what we were discussing the other day. Tactical/survival virtue vs metaphorical virtue, being a good man vs being good at being a man, etc. You should check it out and let me know what you think.

Sounds like a good read. Here is the summary of the book, according to Amazon:

The Way of Men answers the question: “What is Masculinity?”

The so-called experts give the answers that suit their masters. They tell just-so stories to protect their ideology, their religion, their way of life. They look to women for a nod of approval before speaking. They give socially acceptable answers and half-truths.

If what they have to say resonates with men, it is only because they manage to hint at the real answer.

The real answer is that The Way of Men is The Way of The Gang.

Manliness — being good at being a man — isn’t about impressing women. That’s a side effect of manliness.

Manliness isn’t about being a good man. There are plenty of bad guys – real jerks –who are manlier than you are, and you know it.

Manliness is about demonstrating to other men that you have what it takes to survive tough times.

Manliness is about our primal nature. It’s about what men have always needed from each other if they wanted to win struggles against nature, and against other men.

The Way of Men describes the four tactical virtues of the survival gang.

The Way of Men explains what men want, and why they are rapidly disengaging from our child-proofed modern world.

The Way of Men examines the alternatives, and sketches a path out of our “bonobo masturbation society” through a new Dark Age.

If I understand this correctly, he speaks about virtue being a man-made convention to serve the powers to be, and not man.

I wholeheartedly agree.

This is why I make decisions based on their value to me (and to others if they are playing "fair") as opposed to what a man is "supposed" to do according to social constructs.

 

[Macaframalama]

Sounds like a good read. Here is the summary of the book, according to Amazon:



If I understand this correctly, he speaks about virtue being a man-made convention to serve the powers to be, and not man.

I wholeheartedly agree.

This is why I make decisions based on their value to me (and to others if they are playing "fair") as opposed to what a man is "supposed" to do according to social constructs.

Edit: Yes. Lol

 

[Urbanyst]

Urbanyst:

You mentioned numerous times that women are frauds.

Are you above committing fraud upon them, IF ever your interests warranted?

Of course not.

Buuut.. I don't make it a habit to be FAKE in my relationships with people either.

I don't think nonverbal sexual innuendo is in the same league as the fraudulent indirect mumbo jumbo and sh*t tests women pull.

 

[Staticus]

@Urbanyst

I agree whole heartedly with close walking and close talking. Eye contact is something I'm good at myself, being able to speak intimacy through your eyes puts you in the spot pretty quick. BUT having the gift to speak to women goes a long way these days. Carrying a conversation makes things easy for a good night.

 

[Urbanyst]

@Urbanyst

I agree whole heartedly with close walking and close talking. Eye contact is something I'm good at myself, being able to speak intimacy through your eyes puts you in the spot pretty quick. BUT having the gift to speak to women goes a long way these days. Carrying a conversation makes things easy for a good night.

Yeah you have to be able to TALK to people of course. I'm not saying verbal skills are not important.

However, we are talking about SEX. Verbal skills will make a woman like your company. But that can lead to being just friends easily. If you want to be sexual.. you need to use your body in a way that communicates sexual CONFIDENCE.

 

[Staticus]

@Urbanyst

Eyes, smile, hand gestures and space? And of course posture.

 

[derby1]

I shoot out of my league based on my silver tongue alone

you think you do, but you dont.....the women you go with think your king fcking canoot,................we had an actor in the UK he died a while back John Thaw 2002, i remember the programme i watched about him he thought lowly of his looks.............BUT................10's would have set up tent for him.......women dont spend the evening with you mate cause you talk the talk

 

[Urbanyst]

@Urbanyst

Eyes, smile, hand gestures and space?

Protective body language works well on women too.

Their lizard brains still respond to feeling physically "safe" and protected by a guy even though it makes little sense in modern times lol.

 

[derby1]

Protective body language works well on women too.

Their lizard brains still respond to feeling physically "safe" and protected by a guy even though it makes little sense in modern times lol.

you always give great advice Urbanyst but i have to spanner works this one. it still makes perfect sense in modern times.....Times will never change they never changed 1000 years ago they wont change now, they wont change in 1000 years...women are hugely attracted to a man "who is the man"

the only reason were here is to reproduce and keep the cycle going and that is cemented deep in a womans sub concious mind to reproduce with not a saviour(white knight) but a fearless food provider where you all eat after hes eaten, hell walk his lady home but shell be made sure she knows he does not "kiss on the cheek"

 

[Trump]

Manliness is about demonstrating to other men that you have what it takes to survive tough times.

Why would other men, or anyone for that matter, care if you are dead or alive, let alone care you can survive through tough times?

Manliness is about our primal nature. It’s about what men have always needed from each other if they wanted to win struggles against nature, and against other men.

Don't know what that means.

The Way of Men explains what men want, and why they are rapidly disengaging from our child-proofed modern world.

You don't need to read The Way of Men. I could tell you what men want:

- They want respect
- They want power
- They want to have at sex with (young) good looking girls at their will. Doesn't mean rape. Means if they are in mood the girl obliges with no hesitation
- They want money by earning it.
- They want to be tall
- They want lots of hair
- They want a big family

The Way of Men examines the alternatives, and sketches a path out of our “bonobo masturbation society” through a new Dark Age.

Don't know what that means.

 

[Macaframalama]

Don't know what that means.

Then, read the damn book. It should be a fairly easy read, even for a trump supporter.

 

[Urbanyst]

Then, read the damn book. It should be a fairly easy read, even for a trump supporter.

His name was Trump since 2011. Way before Trump won the election lol.

 

[Macaframalama]

His name was Trump since 2011. Way before Trump won the election lol.

Awesome!