Aesthetic but no attention from girls...what gives?

[mclaren593]

Hello Gents!

I’m relatively new to the forum and I might as well give some background about myself. I recently started college, I go to a small school and I have so far only been in one relationship, which lasted for about a year. Dating for me has been sporadic. I’m 5’8” and relatively built and aesthetic for my age, if any of you need workout advice I got you guys, I can back up my lifts as I currently have a 315lb squat, 195lb bench, and a 405lb dead under 150lbs (Sure I’m stronger than average). My issue with dating has been that I’m a relatively decent looking guy and I can get phone numbers with little to no issues as well as the occasional date. First week of orientation I cold approached this fine blonde chick who happened to be a volleyball player and I managed to get her number within a matter of minutes and then the next couple of days following that she wanted to talk to me! Like she was saying “Hey” and stuff every time we made eye contact. However, being the aesthetic lad I am it seems like I am not getting much attention from girls as I want. I get compliments from my guy friends over how built or strong I am but that’s it. One time I walked around campus to my classes in a tanktop and I’ve caught girls staring at me, waving at me, and making eye contact with me as I walked by them and then in my bio class my ass bumped against this fine redhead chick’s ass on accident and she flirted with me a bit after, like wtf you sit right next to me. I have also caught that same chick constantly making eye contact with me and staring at me a couple of times like out of the blue but she barely talks to me. However, I always thought that girls went for tall dudes or dudes with facial aesthetics, which I don’t have and there’s a good chance that girls don’t think I’m hot because of those things. Like I have a big ass, muscles, and clear vascularity and I’m stronger than 90% of guys on my campus yet girls don’t throw their ***** at me for some odd reason yet they hook up with dudes they barely met at parties. I personally know guys on my campus who are nowhere near as strong as I am or as jacked as I am picking up chicks!!! It’s pretty crazy they can do **** like that and I was always curious how they did that and how that would turn out if combined with my looks. I’ve recently been checking out the PUA scene with Christian Hudson’s GFAS and tested some of his nonverbal cues on that blonde I cold approached and that worked well as I was being fun and playful as well as indifferent. I love how Jason Capital emphasized on solely focusing on your life purpose. I’ve also read HOW2TXTHER which makes my text conversations with friends a blast as well as some of Chris Seiter’s Ex Recovery Material which I can confirm works too, should I need it for an ex along with John Alexander’s “How to be an Alpha Male.” I have also practiced “lightly” touching a couple of girls and so far I haven’t been slapped yet, as my ex told me that she would have slapped strangers for touching her which made me think twice about touching women. However, I recently hit a wall on my journey towards self improvement and that was with David DeAngelo’s material which I got free of charge. I was going through his “Inner Game” material, currently “Deep Inner Game” when I had to see if he was legit or not and it turned out there was a nasty review about him being a scam. I don’t know if you guys say his stuff works in terms of technique but his “Inner Game” courses seem worthwhile. I already had a basic understanding of how females are like well before that but I was very concerned about going through DeAngelo’s material because of that review. Sure he might provide a basic picture of the dating scene but is the dude foreal or not? I’m aware of ****y and funny and that’s more of competitive flirting, which can be a push. According to Hudson, cooperative flirting is where it’s at. I’m also doing a bit of hypnotherapy to fix my issues of low self esteem and lack of confidence, partially due to my upbringing as I am introverted. My other options for Inner Game are “Invincible” by David Tian and a little bit of “Foundations for Generating Attraction” by Swinggcat. I swear if DeAngelo’s Inner Game material along with his other stuff is BS, I’m not going to be pleased…my end goal is to have the correct mindset by identifying and fixing the issues with myself before going on to any techniques as beliefs lead to actions and I can’t test any of the techniques if I don’t have my **** together. If there are any noted self destructive processes that won’t turn out well either. I’ve always wanted to know how guys go from meeting a girl to ****ing her and having her desperately chasing the guy in a matter of minutes on the same day by being myself with no BS. If I’m on the right path as a beginner, I should be okay. I'm sure you guys can help me with game while I can help you guys with the gains.

 

[sph21]

First of all, instead of writing your whole post in a single paragraph, divide it in several ones so that it's easier to read.

You only need to take action. First would be to go to her and ask her out. This is how you show her that you're interested in more than a friend to her. You're over-thinking this. Height is not the matter here. My last girlfriend was taller than me. Your inaction is what inhibiting you from getting what you want in life. Perfect is Boring! Just go out there, have fun, improvise & learn.

David DeAngelo is not a scam artist. I bought his book in mid 2000s. I even subscribed to his newsletters. Forget about PUA BS. You want to be a true man and not a man who will bend his persona just to get a woman.

I’m also doing a bit of hypnotherapy to fix my issues of low self esteem and lack of confidence, partially due to my upbringing as I am introverted.

You don't really need a hypnotherapy. All you need is just a hobby that you can be proud of. If you're scared of doing something, then the only way to overcome it is just to face it. Don't hide from it by not doing what you're supposed to be doing which is experiencing the real world. I'm also an introvert guy. It is really hard to start talking to a total stranger at first. But I kept doing it until it become natural to me. I didn't need any therapy. Face your fears and be a man.

Like I have a big ass, muscles, and clear vascularity and I’m stronger than 90% of guys on my campus yet girls don’t throw their ***** at me for some odd reason yet they hook up with dudes they barely met at parties.

You're still thinking like most men do. They think that muscles are what women want from men. Men will admire another man who is muscular than them. Women are different. Yes, your muscles will attract them. But if you don't know how to treat a woman like a woman, then you will often fail in getting girls to be all over you.

This quote below is taken from Be a Man! by Pook:

The problem is not with them, it is with guys. We are afraid to embrace OUR nature, that of being a Man. Being in a culture that sees Manhood as predatory and oppressive and uncouth, we cover it up within ourselves. By doing so, we hide our sexuality. (Sexuality! Do I mean rock hard abs and rippling muscles? That is not what women find sexy [it's a contributing factor, not the core]. A type of PERSONALITY is what women are looking for. Someone they can depend on [has backbone], someone who will be successful [has ambition], and someone who is decisive [has charge]. Nice guys have no backbone because they think women are frail things that will break in confrontation; nice guys reveal no ambition because they fear being seen as arrogant to women; nice guys are afraid to be decisive for fear of being seen as 'oppressive'.)

If you still don't have that type of personality, then it's time start developing it.

If I’m on the right path as a beginner, I should be okay.

You're on the right path for coming to this site. If you really want to be a Don Juan, then head to DJ Bible. Learn the materials and then apply them on your life.

 

[mclaren593]

I will make sure to split my posts into multiple paragraphs, and thank you for the reply. Definitely will read the DJ Bible. So far I have viewed the PUA scene as simply advice and opinions and I agree, there is no need to be someone I'm not only to have more success with women.

 

[resilient]

David D was one of my earliest forays into PUA/game in my young 20s. I wouldn't completely knock what he says because it helped me cultivate a deeply invested interest in psychology and sociology.

I found many great books as a result of his programs. He's in the self-help industry to make money along with his wife's help in marketing, so I can't necessarily blame him. He has a product line that he wants to market and sell to make a profit. What's scammy about that? If he has a subscription service and you no longer use it, cut the recurring charge. Simple.

I became motivated in wanting to be a better man for myself not just to have success with woman. I started caring more about things and having stronger opinions.

Anyway back to your OP, keep improving for yourself because you want to be happier and become a better upstanding man that's balanced, focused, and you know where you're going. If women come along and want to become plates... cool.

Read the DJ bible here, and never stop investing in yourself.

Good luck.