"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is 6' now considered "short"?

MatureDJ

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I was perusing the shortman subreddit, and I noticed this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/shortmen/c...n_due_to_being_short/?st=j8qnt2n9&sh=476ae88e
Well, today is yet another day I've been rejected by a girl due to my short height. I've been hanging around this girl the past few weeks, we've been having a great time being around each other, and I thought it was leading to something, so I asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend, and her reply was "You're really sweet, funny, and cute, and I've really enjoyed being around you, but I'm not sure that I could really get over the height difference to be honest". So here's the kicker, I'm a 6'0 tall guy. She is around 5'9, 5'10, but she loves to wear really high heels all the time, like 4-6 inch heels, and so with her heels, she's taller than me. I don't know, I feel this is really unfair, as women can artificially accentuate their height, yet like to judge men on their height which they can't change. I read a recent study in which only 4% of women from a large sample size said they would date a guy shorter than them. So is 6'2 the new "normal" height for guys? I never really thought of myself as "short" but apparently 6'0 is now too short for a guy to be. Any thoughts on the subject? Are women's standards for a man's height completely ridiculous now? What percentage of guys are really 6'2 or taller? Sorry if this sounds like a bit of a rant, I'm just kind of pissed off for being rejected again due to my height.
My opinion as a 5'5" man: :mad::mad::down:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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6' considered short ?? This is bullshyt, it's the perfect size.. You can date tall and short women. Perfect.

I'm 5'7'' and I cant date a girl of 5'6'' or more

Never been a problem except in the club where you have to be 6'' to get attention without playing the game
 
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This adds to my theory that the "value detection" system that exists in girls brains makes no sense.

Is "being tall" something that somebody achieved? No. But they still think it has high value attached to it.
 

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Height is only a problem if you make it one.

There are plenty of girls out there who will reject you based on attributes you have no control over, just as there are plenty of men who will reject women based on attributes they have no control over. It's called preferences. You don't need to turn the preferences of others into personal insecurities.

Your height may be considered a deal breaker by a girl... But if she's undecided or on the fence about it, your lack of confidence and personal insecurities about your height will definitely be the deal breaker.

If you don't have control over something, you have to own it and rock it. What are your alternatives? Be insecure?

If you worry about your height more than a girl does, it's always going to be a problem.
 
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This adds to my theory that the "value detection" system that exists in girls brains makes no sense.

Is "being tall" something that somebody achieved? No. But they still think it has high value attached to it.
Okay I just Googled it and it's apparently because of a primal instinct that a tall guy makes a girl feel protected.

But in REALITY, just because a guy is tall doesn't mean he can protect a girl. Therefore, this is a perfect example of how this makes no sense.

I'm glad I realized this. This is actually leading to an understanding of females and how it makes sense in an evolutionary explanation, but might not translate to reality in modern society.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I would never go for a 5'9 chick who wears heels anyway.

I am 6'1 and go for girls who are 5'3 and under. They are more fun and submissive in the bedroom.
 

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Okay I just Googled it and it's apparently because of a primal instinct that a tall guy makes a girl feel protected.

But in REALITY, just because a guy is tall doesn't mean he can protect a girl. Therefore, this is a perfect example of how this makes no sense.

I'm glad I realized this. This is actually leading to an understanding of females and how it makes sense in an evolutionary explanation, but might not translate to reality in modern society.
It shows whether your genes are good or not. Just like how most guys prefer women who have big tits and wide hips, the reason for it is because it shows good genes.
 
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It shows whether your genes are good or not. Just like how most guys prefer women who have big tits and wide hips, the reason for it is because it shows good genes.
So "tallness" = good genes, but making millions flipping houses = not important?

How does tall = good genes in the first place? Of what use is being tall?
 

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So "tallness" = good genes, but making millions flipping houses = not important?

How does tall = good genes in the first place? Of what use is being tall?
Longer moment arm for hand-to-hand combat.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It shows whether your genes are good or not. Just like how most guys prefer women who have big tits and wide hips, the reason for it is because it shows good genes.
Actually, we prefer these kinds of women because they represent better reproduction value

My high school biology teacher was always... we like big ass and big boops cause it shows these girls can make ALOT of babies and feed them

It's biological reaction
 
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Money can be bestowed by chance. There are millions of men inheriting money they didn't work for or just benefitting from good birth circumstances e.g. parents sent you to a good school.

What makes you strong is how you will get on if the shyt hit the fan. This doesn't mean the physically strongest. It's who can innovate and who has strength of character.

Height is a part of that. You can't fake genetics. You can take steroids, hit the gym every day, and that will help, but being tall is unquestionably from a superior set of breeding material.

I thank the lord every day for being 6'2'. It's more useful in the dating game than a massive c0ck.
Lol. You think your genetics are better than mine because you're tall? That's funny.

I read your posts and it seems like you are having all kinds of trouble.
 

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So "tallness" = good genes, but making millions flipping houses = not important?

How does tall = good genes in the first place? Of what use is being tall?
The thing is, making millions does not do anything to turn her on. It does not have ANY affect on her state of arousal at all. Being tall generally means higher testosterone and HGh production which means that you are a stronger male than others.
Actually, we prefer these kinds of women because they represent better reproduction value

My high school biology teacher was always... we like big ass and big boops cause it shows these girls can make ALOT of babies and feed them

It's biological reaction
That basically means good genes....
 

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No lol. Im 6'1" thats probably about average for these days but its not short.

I like girls between 5'3"-5'7" any taller than that im usually not attracted to them although occasionally theres an exception.

Girls 5'10" who wear high heels have issues imo
 

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The thing is, making millions does not do anything to turn her on. It does not have ANY affect on her state of arousal at all. Being tall generally means higher testosterone and HGh production which means that you are a stronger male than others.

That basically means good genes....
Depends what you define as ''good'' genes ;)
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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I think people use guns these days. There's also that thing called the police.

Tall = protector. Is not reality.
It doesn't matter about reality. The fact is humans are living in a society they are not wired up for, we still haven't adapted to our new reality. We are still wired up for living in caves which is why women are attracted to height and muscles.
 

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I'm 5'10 never gave me problems. Tall women look like men. I need my women 5'4 5'5 5'6 I'll knock a tall dude out.

IMO 6 foot is perfect
 

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The thing is that it is socially acceptable for girls to measure and seize a guy according to his height while he cant do anything about it.

At the same time if you dare to say that a girl is overweight and she would be fine easting few candy bars daily, you are accused of the most terrible crimes on earth.

Apparently a body index you cant do sh1t about deserve to be mocked, an other which you can control and prove how mentally weak you are has to be respected.

I'm 180 which is 5'11 which guess makes me average in europe, slightly taller in SE slightly shorter in NE and I can confirmo looking around that girls have a fetish for tall guys...the shortest ones especially.
 

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Well, as a 6ft 2 in my stockinged feet, I fvcking loveshort women and tend not to date taller then 5'4. Ideal is about 5'2.

There is just something sexy about short women.

However, a lot of the shorter dudes I know like tall women. I can cope with taller if they are rake thin. No taller than 5 6 though.
Really hope all the tall guys will think like you do, Im average as I said yet I like women on the taller side to women standard.

At 5'11 (180) I like girls between 5'6 to 5'10 which should be around 168 to 178.

I understand you concern about tall bulky women, they look like men sometime.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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