Karma a myth? Or real.

[Ca$ino]

There's something to be said in regards to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you, or what you project you'll get back. "Karma" etc.

IMO "Karma" is a myth because bad things can happen to good people and good things can happen to bad people.

Thoughts?

 

[guru1000]

NN, as you know I was a very bad boy a very long time ago. And I paid dearly.

Since ... I've been a very good boy ... and great things came.

This duality has occurred with dozens of instances throughout my life. So yes, I wholeheartedly believe in karma.

 

[Ca$ino]

NN, as you know I was a very bad boy a very long time ago. And I paid dearly.

Since ... I've been a very good boy ... and great things came.

This duality has occurred with dozens of instances throughout my life. So yes, I wholeheartedly believe in karma.

Don't flip flop on me old boy.

Last we are were told you were "innocent" yet refused to be a stoolie.

Now you were a bad bad boy? Is it an admission of guilt or did you sing like a bird?

 

[guru1000]

Nope, that was the price to pay for bad karma.

 

[Ca$ino]

Nope, that was the price to pay for bad karma.

Wrong again. Your price to pay for bad karma was getting cold feet, tucking tail and running from showing up to meet your idol A.K.A yours truly.

Guess the oyster bar got your hands clammy.

Consider this a personal autograph.

 

[Urbanyst]

Of course its a myth.

Its almost impossible to become successful and stay that way without screwing someone over at some point. Most people have CRAB mentality and will try to drag others down to build themselves up and many succeed.

 

[wifehunter]

 

[Thorninmyside]

If it were universally and demonstrably true, everyone would be good. In general though, not being a cvnt is a pretty good ethos to live by.

 

[Serenity]

Karma is such a diffuse concept in modern times. Some people believe in it religiously, meaning they don't know how it works. I see it differently. Not all immoral actions lead to bad personal outcomes and not all moral actions lead to good personal outcomes, so in that way karma doesn't work like an absolute law. It does work like a pretty good guideline in most circumstances though. It should be quite obvious that if you treat someone like sh!t there's a pretty good chance they'll do so in return, so the idea of karma isn't a complete myth. It's just a lot more mundane than many people make it out to be, it's not mystical, it's just common sense.

The golden rule (don't do to others what you wouldn't want them doing to you) is a good idea, but it's flawed. It appeals to empathy, if you don't like people punching you then don't do it to others. The one big flaw is when you'd want someone to do something to you, but they don't want you doing it to them. A great example is if you're extremely desperate for sex, there's little more you'd want than for a woman to just fvck you. According to the golden rule it would then be acceptable to throw yourself over one and fvck her, but that's called rape. The golden rule ignores what the other person don't want and assumes everyone would like what you'd like.

It's not just a matter of being true or not regarding concepts like these. It's a matter of trying to understand why the concept exists, what is really meant by it. Most people don't take careful philosophical consideration when analyzing it, thus these concepts are often misunderstood to mean something they do not.

@Fruitbat that's interesting, I did not know the Sanskrit meaning of it. So many Sanskrit words are misunderstood to the point they appear mystical, but they often refer to very mundane understandings already existent in our own language. I don't think karma is that badly misunderstood though, bad actions do in many cases lead to bad results, people just got to erase the word "always" when talking about these things.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Karma is poorly understood in the spiritually young western culture. Its just a catchphrase in our culture with a definition

 

[guru1000]

Karma is often misunderstood, as how could a "villain" have such a "great" life some proclaim. This logic is flawed for two reasons:

1) How do you know how "great" the villian's life is? Did you experience all his trials and tribulations to be in his shoes?

2) The corporeal existence is transient, and the energy within the corporeal continues to dwell in other corporealities a/k/a past lives. How do you know what the "villain" experienced in his past lives in relation to what he manfested today?

Your thoughts are energy. Think with stress and you will will create a physical hormone called cortisol. The simplest matter broken beyond the quark is energy and is subject to the observer effect, that is, it does not operate by causation, but rather capriciously by the observer. All matter is energy. Energy responds to energy. This is "karma."

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

The golden rule (don't do to others what you wouldn't want them doing to you) is a good idea, but it's flawed. It appeals to empathy, if you don't like people punching you then don't do it to others. The one big flaw is when you'd want someone to do something to you, but they don't want you doing it to them. A great example is if you're extremely desperate for sex, there's little more you'd want than for a woman to just fvck you. According to the golden rule it would then be acceptable to throw yourself over one and fvck her, but that's called rape. The golden rule ignores what the other person don't want and assumes everyone would like what you'd like.

It's not just a matter of being true or not regarding concepts like these. It's a matter of trying to understand why the concept exists, what is really meant by it. Most people don't take careful philosophical consideration when analyzing it, thus these concepts are often misunderstood to mean something they do not.

@Fruitbat that's interesting, I did not know the Sanskrit meaning of it. So many Sanskrit words are misunderstood to the point they appear mystical, but they often refer to very mundane understandings already existent in our own language. I don't think karma is that badly misunderstood though, bad actions do in many cases lead to bad results, people just got to erase the word "always" when talking about these things.

I find it interesting that you've framed the golden rule in the negative when it is actually in the positive - "Do to others what you want them to do to you".

I think it is connected to 'love your neighbor as yourself'. The qualification of 'love your neighbour' with 'as yourself' is interesting. This is all open to interpretation/ exegesis no doubt, but my reading of it is that the other becomes a unique self just like your self. It obliterates the ego... the false self-consciousness of self

 

[Serenity]

Thanks Grewd, but the notion of "do unto others" and the golden rule, and the notion that if you punch someone, you may get punched, these aren't really karmic.

Let me clarify instead, I talk about the golden rule because OP mentioned it. I wasn't putting it into relation with karma, I was replying to to separate parts of his post.

I find it interesting that you've framed the golden rule in the negative when it is actually in the positive - "Do to others what you want them to do to you".

Yeah I was just taking it from the top of my head while tired, it makes little difference though. My example is still valid and the golden rule is flawed in that way.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Eventually, science will probably find karma on a sub-atomic level.

 

[That_dude]

I truly believe in karma. People thinking there getting away with chit will eventually pay the piper bigtime. What goes around comes around trust that

 

[sosousage]

karma is more fakish than what these salesmen who knock ur door are trying to sell.


only difference would be that shady people dont expect good things to come while good people are happy, open, and indeed expect good things to come, their aura is healthier, so basically people are nicer to them because they can feel that aura

 

[Red Legg]

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked.A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS.-Galatians 6:7

 

[That_dude]

Bingo. That goes for everyone.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked.A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS.-Galatians 6:7

LK 6:38 "Give, and it will be given to you...for with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Karma is a handy excuse when you don't want (or are unable) to handle your shyte.