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Saying Goodnight Or Good Morning To Plates?

soulforge

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Have a few questions regarding this matter...

If you have plates who you don't intend to have a relationship with...

Do you bother telling her goodnight or Good Morning?

I only ever say goodnight if my plate sends me a good night text first, otherwise i never initiate this..

If she sends me a good morning text, i will text back with Good morning.


If she does not text me anything, then i will not either...


How is best to handle this... do you ever initiate or do you leave that kinda chit entirely down to her?

Also is she likely to get resentful about this, and you could end up losing a plate, giving you perfectly good sex?
 

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Yeah man if you don't say goodnight, she's gonna hate you, steal all your money and cheat on with you ET.
 

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That's her pulling you into her relationship frame.

You can do it or not. Doesn't matter. Just keep seeing others regardless, and be mindful of her little games.

It definitely is her trying to pull you into her relationship frame.. this is why i never initiate mornings or good nights..

But.. if she does it first, its not possible to ignore or not respond back... as that would be considered outright rude, or ignorant
 

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Of course it's her trying to pull you in. You can feel it.

Sometimes I've reciprocated with #1 plates, and sometimes I haven't. Do whatever you like from an air of experimentation. No right or wrong answers, mate.

However, whenever I've started stressing over something like this, it means that I'm seriously losing frame. It's been when I've acted from a place of scarcity (trying to keep the girl based on laziness or fear of getting more leads), or I've been lazy and allowed her to take the reigns too much. Be mindful of these things.

Also there seems to be a nice-guy vibe of "I can't be rude or ignorant". Oh yes you can, and they often love it. Perhaps this is how you were dragged into that last crap relationship?

A woman's frame push is drip drip drip, Japanese water torture. And before you know it, you'll wonder how the fvck you got in such a position.

Ultimately, give less fvcks and treat it all like one big experiment.

So essentially what your saying is, don't give a fuk?

Just feels odd to me, to be texting a plate hello, and good night.. thats some relationship chit right there.

I suppose i should just let her do what she needs to do, and stop giving fuks...

If i sense attitude or rudeness, i deal with it accordingly
 

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NEITHER.

You don't text first after a date.

She should be texting hearts and things after leaving.

Let her say goodnight and good morning first, exclusively.

Example: I had a first date Wednesday. Not only did I not text first after the date, but I refused to reply when she texted "send me some of the photos when you get a chance".

Two days later I got two more texts from her:

Her: Neil PLEASE text me back. My phone was broken and I didn't get any of your texts!
Her: PLEASE?? Come rescue me tonight.

I showed up at her work 5 minutes later and showed her my phone - how I hadn't replied at all. She couldn't believe it. Women will sooner assume their phone is broken! She sent a "good morning love" text.
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I don't even do this when i have a GF... this is probably the most retarded thing ever.

If she texts me "good morning" or something like that, i just change the subject to - when are we meeting / sex
 

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I don't even do this when i have a GF... this is probably the most retarded thing ever.

If she texts me "good morning" or something like that, i just change the subject to - when are we meeting / sex

Yeh i get that.. but some plates will probably walk away from that.. i'm sure there has to be some kinda balance
 

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NEITHER.

You don't text first after a date.

She should be texting hearts and things after leaving.

Let her say goodnight and good morning first, exclusively.

Example: I had a first date Wednesday. Not only did I not text first after the date, but I refused to reply when she texted "send me some of the photos when you get a chance".

Two days later I got two more texts from her:

Her: Neil PLEASE text me back. My phone was broken and I didn't get any of your texts!
Her: PLEASE?? Come rescue me tonight.

I showed up at her work 5 minutes later and showed her my phone - how I hadn't replied at all. She couldn't believe it. Women will sooner assume their phone is broken! She sent a "good morning love" text.

And if she doesn't text good night or good morning.. power struggle?
 

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And if she doesn't text good night or good morning.. power struggle?
You wait until she reaches out, then you reply. Why is this so hard?

I computed some stats from my 9 month relationship which (because I have an Astrology app I'm working on) I kept stats on:

Percentage of the time she initiated texts:

First 90 days - 50% (30/60)
Second 90 days - 60% (36/60)
Heydey 45 days - 90% (27/30)
Breakdown 45 days - 50% (15/30)
 

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Well i will get my calculator and charts out lol...
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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the only reason to text good morning or good night is if she texts it first, the only reason to text it first is if you haven't talked to her in a while and it's the morning so it's a variation of "hey" to start the conversation, or if you're trying to end the conversation and it's night so you go "good night"
 

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when I've got one texting me good night or good morning consistently I know I hold frame. if she's really just a plate I wouldn't bother worrying too much about this kind of stuff. She may start to wane from feeling like you have lack of interest, that's when you pick it up a bit and hook her back in with some attention

as far as replying to a plates good morning or goodnight texts, it's probably better to leave her guessing. this type of stuff can be 'special' if given properly. respond if you want, but not consistently.
 
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