"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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women havbe so many options it is unreal: real case

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Junk stocks have high value too if many buy them--even if these stocks are fundamentally worthless.
Yeah but like going in the casino with your money, you don't have to put ANY of your money in a slot machine or play any games at all unless you know you have a good shot of winning.
 

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Even high value women are worthless. It is men that have value. Society is backwards.
Fix your head. I need to fix mine. My latest demon reinforced that a woman should not let me pay all of the time and it's important that they invest in time, money and attention. No more free rides.
 

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Fix your head. I need to fix mine. My latest demon reinforced that a woman should not let me pay all of the time and it's important that they invest in time, money and attention. No more free rides.
Stop trying to attract them with money, that game is over... Unless you treat them like wh0res and make them work for it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Also a reality check for the lols; even when you do get an attractive girl, she will have orbiters YEARS into your "serious" relationship when you feel there is only you two in the whole wide world. Spoke to my sister about this, they gave up only when she became pregnant. The game never ends
 

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Also a reality check for the lols; even when you do get an attractive girl, she will have orbiters YEARS into your "serious" relationship when you feel there is only you two in the whole wide world. Spoke to my sister about this, they gave up only when she became pregnant. The game never ends
I wouldn't be so sure, as I know some men who had been married to VERY attractive women for many years, had kids...and still going strong. Of course, they are married and not dating...so the whole "looking for the next best thing" probably ended there for them at least.

I see this one married couple, the guy is very average looking, smokin' hot mom...they are always taking family trips together and posting them on Facebook...so there's a testimonial to be said right there. She works at a bank, but also models. Guys probably flirt with her all the time, but her husband...the photographer...is always within ear shot. lol You hardly notice he's there because her beauty overshadows him.

Not saying he's an ugly guy or anything, he's got a spare tire, not in shape obviously either. Very average Joe looking.

It blew my mind that a HOT woman would stay in a marriage for that guy for THAT long. lol
 
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I wouldn't be so sure, as I know some men who had been married to VERY attractive women for many years, had kids...and still going strong. Of course, they are married and not dating...so the whole "looking for the next best thing" probably ended there for them at least.

I see this one married couple, the guy is very average looking, smokin' hot mom...they are always taking family trips together and posting them on Facebook...so there's a testimonial to be said right there. She works at a bank, but also models. Guys probably flirt with her all the time, but her husband...the photographer...is always within ear shot. lol You hardly notice he's there because her beauty overshadows him.

Not saying he's an ugly guy or anything, he's got a spare tire, not in shape obviously either. Very average Joe looking.

It blew my mind that a HOT woman would stay in a marriage for that guy for THAT long. lol
And you're a dumb ***** for assuming that her "beauty" makes her worth anything.

That is exactly what's wrong with the world.

Do beautiful ****s fall out of her ass?
 

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And you're a dumb ***** for assuming that her "beauty" makes her worth anything.

That is exactly what's wrong with the world.

Do beautiful ****s fall out of her ass?
I was just following up on what I quoted. Milano was saying that these women will have orbiters for years to come.
 
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I was just following up on what I quoted. Milano was saying that these women will have orbiters for years to come.
No that's not what you were doing.

You were displaying your stupidity and horribly offensive and destructive thought processes for the world to see. I KNOW that most, if not all, girls think like you. They honestly think that their beauty is worth something. As if it has any tangible value. Is your "beauty" going to cure somebody's cancer?

Girls think they have "beauty value." And with the way the world is today, even obese girls think they possess this "value."
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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No that's not what you were doing.

You were displaying your stupidity and horribly offensive and destructive thought processes for the world to see. I KNOW that most, if not all, girls think like you. They honestly think that their beauty is worth something. As if it has any tangible value. Is your "beauty" going to cure somebody's cancer?

Girls think they have "beauty value." And with the way the world is today, even obese girls think they possess this "value."
I think what messes up this market is the high end guys fuking down. This explains why girls on Tinder etc who you KNOW are below you looks wise dont even bother replying at times even if you match. They are waiting for that guy they barely have a chance of sucking off.

Point is, gym heroes and rich handsome guys, FUK OFF and aim for your own level lol
 

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No that's not what you were doing.

You were displaying your stupidity and horribly offensive and destructive thought processes for the world to see. I KNOW that most, if not all, girls think like you. They honestly think that their beauty is worth something. As if it has any tangible value. Is your "beauty" going to cure somebody's cancer?

Girls think they have "beauty value." And with the way the world is today, even obese girls think they possess this "value."
Dude, you're taking what I just posted WAY out of context. I never thought a woman's beauty alone was worth something, so not sure where you got that idea. You come back with name calling? Really?
 
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I think what messes up this market is the high end guys fuking down. This explains why girls on Tinder etc who you KNOW are below you looks wise dont even bother replying at times even if you match. They are waiting for that guy they barely have a chance of sucking off.

Point is, gym heroes and rich handsome guys, FUK OFF and aim for your own level lol
Well I'm hoping to be one of those rich guys. I don't think I'm ugly and I've been called handsome many times. I'm certainly no male model, but I don't think I'm ugly.

What do you think?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0i2t38xt1aj4e3/me.jpg?dl=0

I think even if I pass the money and looks criteria, then girls would be worried about my mental health and that would be the limiting factor for me to become a "playboy."

The other limiting factor would be Asperger's-like social skills, narcissism, and lack of desire. I'm at the point where I can go to strip clubs and not even care that much about the naked girls in front of me. I'm content calling prostitutes a few times/month. Lol.
 

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And you're a dumb ***** for assuming that her "beauty" makes her worth anything.
Of course beauty has value. Tell a guy here to date an HB4 and see what kind of response you get. It's not the most important thing in the world, but if you don't think beauty gives her value, you're living in denial.
 

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No that's not what you were doing.

You were displaying your stupidity and horribly offensive and destructive thought processes for the world to see. I KNOW that most, if not all, girls think like you. They honestly think that their beauty is worth something. As if it has any tangible value. Is your "beauty" going to cure somebody's cancer?

Girls think they have "beauty value." And with the way the world is today, even obese girls think they possess this "value."
Beauty is valuable. In fact, its more valuable than you think. You can bítch & moan about it all you want but that won't change it. On a societal level, attractive people are treated better and have access to better resources and options because of it, hence value. From a biological standpoint, why beauty is valuable is even simpler.

Beauty = proportion/symmetry = Good genetics = Healthier more resilient offspring

Beauty is valuable any way you slice. Even if you take away the value you think people are placing on it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Beauty is valuable. In fact, its more valuable than you think. You can bítch & moan about it all you want but that won't change it. On a societal level, attractive people are treated better and have access to better resources and options because of it, hence value. From a biological standpoint, why beauty is valuable is even simpler.

Beauty = proportion/symmetry = Good genetics = Healthier more resilient offspring

Beauty is valuable any way you slice. Even if you take away the value you think people are placing on it.
I guess it's just lost on me.

I've been through too much other stuff. Plus, 90% of girls who think they have this "beauty value" don't even have it, or they exaggerate it by 1000x.
 

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Beauty is valuable. In fact, its more valuable than you think. You can bítch & moan about it all you want but that won't change it. On a societal level, attractive people are treated better and have access to better resources and options because of it, hence value. From a biological standpoint, why beauty is valuable is even simpler.

Beauty = proportion/symmetry = Good genetics = Healthier more resilient offspring

Beauty is valuable any way you slice. Even if you take away the value you think people are placing on it.
Yeah, "beautiful people" can usually get the better jobs and get away with almost anything.
 

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One, accept it. Being frustrated or bitter about the current set of conditions is pointless & unproductive. All we can do is optimize how we play the current market--and to analyze it as objectively as possible. The average girl today has more options and more validation with less effort (a cute selfie every now and then) than a celebrity in the 1940's--it is what it is.

Two, don't take it personally. Girls have to make snap judgments--they just don't have the time or incentive to make in-depth comparisons of their options. If she quits responding to your texts or bangs some other dude, she's just doing the best with the set of information she has at the time. Nothing to feel bad or bitter over.

Three, play the numbers game--horizontally & vertically. With any one girl in any one movement, your chances are super low. But if you're talking to ten girls and hitting them up once a week over the course of the month, then your chances of getting the right girl at the right time goes up considerably. On the same note, if you promise hard monogamy her options aren't decreasing but yours sure are.

Finally, compete on the most favorable terms. On Tinder you're competing against a near-infinite number of options and doing so with the least potential to convey your value. In person, often you're the only guy with the balls to approach her on any given night. Or you might be competing against 2 or 3 guys over the course of the night. With practice, you're able to efficiently and effectively convey your value and to out-compete other suitors (often just by being less desperate and letting them blow themselves out).

Also the good news is that there are way, way, way more young, attractive girls with cool personalities than there are cool guys who know how to push the right buttons and give them the emotions they crave. So with the right tool-set you can meet more quality options in a given week than a girl will in several months. Play that to your advantage and always increase your tool-set.
Great post.
 

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WHAT ARE WE GUYS SUPOSED TO DO TO COMPETE WITH THIS? I’ve read that one decade ago women had maybe half or less than the options they have today because there was no FB, they had no cellphone, no whatsapp…what can we do? I just find that the odds of a woman choosing you are just so tiny that you better spend your time doing something else not related to picking up women.
I kind of understand now some articles Ive read about how men should 'control women', because if you do not, they end up with hundreds of male options which gives them the dating power and thus, power in general.
Have you considered becoming a transsexual? Or perhaps a homosexual? There are alternatives to being cisgendered.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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