Why Are Men So Delusional When It Comes To Manipulative Women?

[El Payaso]

I came across this interesting read: http://www.relationshiptalk.net/why...when-it-comes-to-manipulative-women-3056.html

It was written by a woman and she highlights a lot of what we talk about in regards to orbiters and LJBF.

Men should try to regulate the amount of attention they give any woman. It's part of the reason why women fawn over what looks like disinterested men and ignore the interested man who follows them around like a puppy.

 

[JohnChops]

Agreed, men need to realize that going up to a girl and saying "Hey cutie" is the most retarded way to start a pick up, but a great way to become her orbiter.

 

[djthiago1]

Media makes us falselly believe that when we give attention and spew our feelings, the girl becomes attracted.

 

[bigneil]

I was just at the bar with a HB7 bartender. She met my former model friend and said she is the most beautiful girl she ever saw. My point was, she can't hold a candle to the girl I was dating, and knows it.

Today at the bar there was some guy, he looked Spanish, had a sleeve tattoo that made him about as badass as her, had a baseball cap on (bad form indoors, especially when eating as dust falls off your hat onto your plate, hence manners) - with a hoodie pulled up over it.

But he was sickly nice. I actually heard him ask her what her mom likes!

He was always staring at her with an almost drugged out smile. He refused to acknowledge me or make eye contact with me (sitting three stools to his left). At one point I said to her "Psst.... why is he so NICE?" and she said "That is my boyfriend!". He still didn't acknowledge me. When I left he still didn't make eye contact. A man should acknowledge everyone around him, especially in front of his girl. He was basically cuckolding when I spoke to her as he ignored me. It was disturbing. I'd love to get some of the women here's take on guys like this. Note my former girl once said "Neil, you're not nice, I like that".

My final comment to the bartender girl? "Let's just say I won't be getting your mom a present..." and she howled.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I was just at the bar with a HB7 bartender. She met my former model friend and said she is the most beautiful girl she ever saw. My point was, she can't hold a candle to the girl I was dating, and knows it.

Today at the bar there was some guy, he looked Spanish, had a sleeve tattoo that made him about as badass as her, had a baseball cap on (bad form indoors, especially when eating as dust falls off your hat onto your plate, hence manners) - with a hoodie pulled up over it.

But he was sickly nice. I actually heard him ask her what her mom likes!

He was always staring at her with an almost drugged out smile. He refused to acknowledge me or make eye contact with me (sitting three stools to his left). At one point I said to her "Psst.... why is he so NICE?" and she said "That is my boyfriend!". He still didn't acknowledge me. When I left he still didn't make eye contact. A man should acknowledge everyone around him, especially in front of his girl. He was basically cuckolding when I spoke to her as he ignored me. It was disturbing. I'd love to get some of the women here's take on guys like this. Note my former girl once said "Neil, you're not nice, I like that".

My final comment to the bartender girl? "Let's just say I won't be getting your mom a present..." and she howled.

Oh but I thought bartenders didn't like anyone and they were all the Raisins from South Park?

 

[Urbanyst]

The fact that women LOVE jerk behavior and detached men so much kind of makes me think most women are just c*nts.

I have women in my life who are 6's. I have no interest in them outside of maybe a dry spell booty call. I can ignore them for months and yet when I text them I get a fast and enthusiastic "Hey!! How are you??". Absurd right? I put in no effort. I show no interest. Its obvious I don't care about them at all. Yet they want me and they never complain or sh*t test me.

Now take my two most recent plates. I would rate each at around a 8.5. Great chemistry and great sex. I make them feel valued and attractive. I spend money on them. What do I get? I get sh*t tested. I get b*tchiness. I get ghosted and dumped.

There is something deeply dysfunctional about women.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The fact that women LOVE jerk behavior and detached men so much kind of makes me think most women are just c*nts.

I have women in my life who are 6's. I have no interest in them outside of maybe a dry spell booty call. I can ignore them for months and yet when I text them I get a fast and enthusiastic "Hey!! How are you??". Absurd right? I put in no effort. I show no interest. Its obvious I don't care about them at all. Yet they want me and they never complain or sh*t test me.

Now take my two most recent plates. I would rate each at around a 8.5. Great chemistry and great sex. I make them feel valued and attractive. I spend money on them. What do I get? I get sh*t tested. I get b*tchiness. I get ghosted and dumped.

There is something deeply dysfunctional about women.

I'm at the point where I don't even remember their names when they tell me them. Society is so ****ing backwards that these completely useless females are running around like they own the place. And nobody questions this. Men who work breaking their back all day will lower their head and bow to a lying, cheating female who doesn't have to do anything difficult.

Is bitching about feminism going to get me anywhere? Probably not, but I'm just telling it like I see it.

 

[resilient]

Men should try to regulate the amount of attention they give any woman.

Agreed. We need to be consciously aware of our interactions and be wise to not overgame a plate. Stay busy.

One of Giovanni's greatest key rules:

RULE 2: Chicks desire attention the same way that guys desire sex. Give attention sparingly. This is your currency.

 

[El Payaso]

The fact that women LOVE jerk behavior and detached men so much kind of makes me think most women are just c*nts.

I have women in my life who are 6's. I have no interest in them outside of maybe a dry spell booty call. I can ignore them for months and yet when I text them I get a fast and enthusiastic "Hey!! How are you??". Absurd right? I put in no effort. I show no interest. Its obvious I don't care about them at all. Yet they want me and they never complain or sh*t test me.

Now take my two most recent plates. I would rate each at around a 8.5. Great chemistry and great sex. I make them feel valued and attractive. I spend money on them. What do I get? I get sh*t tested. I get b*tchiness. I get ghosted and dumped.

There is something deeply dysfunctional about women.

Funny but sad. Very sad.

 

[fastlife]

The fact that women LOVE jerk behavior and detached men so much kind of makes me think most women are just c*nts.

I have women in my life who are 6's. I have no interest in them outside of maybe a dry spell booty call. I can ignore them for months and yet when I text them I get a fast and enthusiastic "Hey!! How are you??". Absurd right? I put in no effort. I show no interest. Its obvious I don't care about them at all. Yet they want me and they never complain or sh*t test me.

Now take my two most recent plates. I would rate each at around a 8.5. Great chemistry and great sex. I make them feel valued and attractive. I spend money on them. What do I get? I get sh*t tested. I get b*tchiness. I get ghosted and dumped.

There is something deeply dysfunctional about women.

Just frame. Caring about someone =/= Giving up frame. Plus, 8's & + have far more options--they'll never be desperate enough to be on monthly roll call. So even if you played them like you did your 6's they still would've broken by now.

Next time experiment with non-monogamy upfront. You were afraid of losing them--'quality girls don't go for that'--so you had lost frame from the get-go.

 

[wifehunter]

Because, most guys, fail at sh!t tests.

 

[Masculinity]

The fact that women LOVE jerk behavior and detached men so much kind of makes me think most women are just c*nts.

I have women in my life who are 6's. I have no interest in them outside of maybe a dry spell booty call. I can ignore them for months and yet when I text them I get a fast and enthusiastic "Hey!! How are you??". Absurd right? I put in no effort. I show no interest. Its obvious I don't care about them at all. Yet they want me and they never complain or sh*t test me.

Now take my two most recent plates. I would rate each at around a 8.5. Great chemistry and great sex. I make them feel valued and attractive. I spend money on them. What do I get? I get sh*t tested. I get b*tchiness. I get ghosted and dumped.

There is something deeply dysfunctional about women.

A true paradox.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

A true paradox.

And evidence that none of us on this forum have them figured out.

 

[Masculinity]

And evidence that none of us on this forum have them figured out.

It's not possible. They don't even know themselves.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It's not possible. They don't even know themselves.

I think realizing that their brains don't operate on logic is the first step to understanding them.

And obviously some guys get them better than others because hot girls do have boyfriends.

 

[Trump]

Just frame. Caring about someone =/= Giving up frame. Plus, 8's & + have far more options--they'll never be desperate enough to be on monthly roll call.

Bro I think you are confusing the issues. Caring about someone has nothing to do with frame. It's the media, movies. Tv, magazines, internet, Facebook, and Snapchat and the law that have put in the minds of these women they can do no wrong. So if the guy is a gentlemen, she feels it's ok to treat him badly since she has been brainwashed and there are no repercussions.

I don't think that has anything to do with frame.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Bro I think you are confusing the issues. Caring about someone has nothing to do with frame. It's the media, movies. Tv, magazines, internet, Facebook, and Snapchat and the law that have put in the minds of these women they can do no wrong. So if the guy is a gentlemen, she feels it's ok to treat him badly since she has been brainwashed and there are no repercussions.

I don't think that has anything to do with frame.

Yea. I'm pretty sure a bartender stole $18 from me when I was out last month. I was really drunk and tipped her $2. I got home and my bank statement said a real high amount that I don't think was right. I'm pretty sure she added a zero to that tip and made it $20. They do some ****ed up **** and think they can get away with it. Then, people complain when Elliot Rodger comes to town, right?

They literally talk **** as soon as your back is turned after smiling to your face. They are horrible people because they think there are no consequences. They do not give a **** about you, or I, or anyone, except for those "special" people who I still have not figured out who those special people are and what are their characteristics.

 

[nismo-4]

This is why I never tell a woman she's beautiful, but I will tell a woman she isn't that attractive. Never admit your feelings first.

You have to give some attention. But not smothering. It's not just sit at a sports bar and focus only on the Stanley cup game 7 and expect the Sports Illustrated cover model to desire your dik inside all her holes a day later. I see lots of guys at clubs with their aloofness up to eleven. What good does that do? I'll tell you. She'll just talk to the most attractive aloof guy, while all the others act aloof till kingdom come.

 

[Urbanyst]

And evidence that none of us on this forum have them figured out.

Well, its hard to figure out people who are almost never honest or upfront.

In a woman's mind, lying is always ok if feelings are involved. Whether she is protecting your feelings or her own.. or even just scared, if there are emotions, its ok to lie. And you better not confront her about it. You will be met with more lies with a nice dessert of sh*t tests.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Well, its hard to figure out people who are almost never honest or upfront.

In a woman's mind, lying is always ok if feelings are involved. Whether she is protecting your feelings or her own.. or even just scared, if there are emotions, its ok to lie. And you better not confront her about it. You will be met with more lies with a nice dessert of sh*t tests.

I have them figured out. They're a bunch of dumb bitches with hamster brains who think they deserve everything for free while contributing nothing and ****ting on everyone because they think they're special.

The MGTOW guys have them figured out, too. I differ from them only in that I still want to have sex.