"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Everybody is getting married and flaunting it on social media

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Maybe we should celebrate divorce like we celebrate marriage!

Yep its common and a few months before that they were all showing off their over priced engagement rings. Women are sheeple, they'll want to do whatever the masses do. In 2-3yrs all these ho's that are getting married will want to make babies. A few years after that they will all be getting divorced.
 

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Can't wait till they flaunt the divorce.
 

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It's sad how people glamourize weddings. They're expensive as all hell attention seeking day that's quickly forgotten. The hard part is when the marriage vow kicks in and two people realize they have to work hard at their relationship to make it work over time.

Saw this on Imgur the other day, figured you guys would get a laugh out of it who have been married or are still married:

"Hanging out with friends after marriage"
http://i.imgur.com/pViakUq.mp4
 

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OP, be wary of those people flaunting the rings, vendors, and what have you on social media and your gf getting the Disney feels for a fairy tale ending. You're at the age where many couples post-college are susceptible to ideas like rushing to the alter without giving marriage or the rest of the next 5-10-20 years some hard critical thought.

The wedding phenomena remind me of when people walk by those puppy mill stores and see a cute little six-week-old puppy and think it's adorable and they just have to it. They don't realize the financial commitment and care required to take care of a dog. Dog food, dog training, dog sitters, vet bills, medications, potential hip dysplasia surgery, etc. = $$$.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If your girl is pressuring you over simply seeing this crap on social media, that's even more of a reason to NOT move forward in your relationship.

Here's an interesting thought (since I'm not on social media so i dont know) - do people post about how they just had this huge fight with their spouse that lasted multiple days and finally made amends? No? Why not? That's the sort of stuff that takes actual work in a marriage. When major **** happens that tests both of you to see if your relationship and/or marriage can withstand the rough times.
 

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Part of the reason why I deleted facebook. Listen, I don't really care how much they show off at their wedding. Let them. I just always felt like that creepy uncle peering in on their lives with all the pictures they post.
 

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Part of the reason why I deleted facebook. Listen, I don't really care how much they show off at their wedding. Let them. I just always felt like that creepy uncle peering in on their lives with all the pictures they post.
Delete Chickbook...I did and it was a great decision...I was married for 17 years don't do it..enjoy your freedom.
 

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I'm 24 too, so is this common. Also, my gf is seeing this and keeps bugging about it, but I don't want to get married and waste money on a stupid ass wedding.
More like everyone is being sheep, following what society tells them they're "supposed" to do. Women are socially sensitive beings who need to be part of a herd. If the herd is getting married, she doesn't want to stand out.

Solution: get another girl. A friend of mine had his girl do the same thing to him, threatening to leave him if they didn't get married. My friend said "I understand" and broke up with her. The chick was furious. She went to the cops and said she "feared for her safety" because her boyfriend was "aggressive," even though this guy is an Asian version of Ghandi. She got a restraining order and my friend couldn't even go to his own apartment (they lived together). It took months to event get his clothes and property. She then proceeded to fvck several different guys and then call my friend to tell him all that she had done. B!tches be crazy.
 

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It's worse when guys do it. Bit of a soft move to constantly show off and talk about how great your gf is on facebook everyday. Also **** the amateur self help gurus throwing out clichés everyday.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Most women are really in love with the idea of their princess day, I mean wedding day than the actual marriage.

Once reality sets in, they realize marriage is not an easy trip. Same for the man.
 
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It's all a hoax, these women are amazing. So I'm scrolling through my Facebook account looking at all the fake lives that they boast about. Now either Their posts and walls are heavily embellished or the us statistics on poverty and wages is a farce but they can't both be correct.

These women are living in a fantasy land. And if you as a man can't or won't keep that fantasy alive she's on to the next one till she runs out of credits and is forced to be a cat woman in an apartment in the valley.

So I'm out with a female friend on Sunday for lunch she springs on me a sob story about how hard it is to make a living now that she has voluntarily left her 6 figure job for a start up in the 5 figures due to stresses and responsibilities last year. On her Facebook and dating site profiles everything is honkey dorey and she's listing her old job from a year ago. She's also complaining how now that she's turned 40 that not as many guys are giving her attention in the way they did.

Another woman that I've known since high school in her 40s had it all but I guess she wanted more. I spotted her on an OLD site shaking her tail feather half naked with two children crows feet and wrinkly sun beaten skin making demands of what she will and will not tolerate from a guy. And yet they wonder why I date immature women 10-12 years younger than me.


Another one I was surprised to see OLD was an attorney friend from high school same story divorce 2 kids sagging fake boobs loose cooter wrinkles all over lived the good life but still wanted more now she's getting pumped and dumped by every tom **** and harry. Wondering why they are using her and won't father another kid with her.

Yet another one lying about her age point blank saying she did because only older men were contacting her and she felt she deserves more. She ever went as far as to say i love nights in with Netflix and I make a hell of a cup of coffee in the morning if that's not begging for the pump and dump I don't know what is.

I could go on for at least 10 more but there all close to the same story. Either they left their husbands or their in a mad scramble to find one and have kids.

It's a shame because these women use to be super beautiful and still are decent to some extent. They had loving husbands that were in their corners but I guess having it all for them was not enough.

I'd like to hear from some of the women on here what makes you guys freak out instead of just accepting your life when the wall starts coming up and your beauty starts to fade. I know a few women that say phuckit and accept it but I wonder why the majority don't from your perspectives.
 

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Most women are really in love with the idea of their princess day, I mean wedding day than the actual marriage.

Once reality sets in, they realize marriage is not an easy trip. Same for the man.
That why I screen for willingness to work. That takes space and time.

If they're not making an effort to communicate etc., they're clearly destined to be someone else's fukk buddy. It's sad.

Besides, how am I supposed to know where the sweet spot is, if we don't work together?

I can't make a girl see stars, without communication.
 

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I'm 24 too, so is this common. Also, my gf is seeing this and keeps bugging about it, but I don't want to get married and waste money on a stupid ass wedding.
She just wants to build a nest. I think you are right to hold off getting married. 30 is a good age for a man to marry because it gives you time. Do you love her? If so, tell her you will think about it when you are 30. If she sticks it out with you for that long and you still love each other. It will probably work out. Also if she is older she may be less inclined to waste all that money on a stupid wedding day.
 

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Kinda agree with Trainwreck, Payaso, Plums, Deesadee

Sure a marriage is to be celebrated and you want to create memories.

However, what I see in the 25 to 35 bracket.... on 10 couples.... 6 couples on 10 have babies or get married within the 1-2 year dating phase, 2 couple have a 5years + history, 2 dont get married (pressured or not).

It's not just the girl who's pushing marriage. However, I agree... there is yet a 1 lady who doesnt want to be married with kids at the same time has all her friends (the pack empirative)

Some girls, I meet... they do talk about ''a relationship is not just feelings, its communication, commitment but WORK'' .... which I believe alot of youth forget cause they in the butterfly phase and let that guide them.

Lastly, it's not because its on socialmedia aka Facebook that you really happy... often ''online and life'' have different reality......

Anyway, I probably will get married next year with the girl I meet this year... so take my comment with a grain of salt :p... but I have no intention of making it a social media event ... having post to remember it like a journal sure.

To conclude.... never do something because you pressured into it... you need to want it... usually the girl pressure for all the wrong reasons anyway
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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...stuff...
A LOT of people have a very different idea of what marriage should be versus what it is in reality. Since it doesn't live up to their fairy tale expectations, they bale because they remember all the "good times" they had when they were single, and for women especially riding the carousel sure wasn't as difficult as working on marital problems. So naturally leaving all that sort of "resolves" the problems they had in marriage all the while not realizing they themselves are broken in some capacity. It takes real work to see that your own personality needs to be just a bit more accomodating, or maybe a little more selfless, or realize that you simply will not have time to yourself for your own wants, etc., etc.

Social media has done nothing but serve as an amplifier for these traits in people.
 

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These women are living in a fantasy land. And if you as a man can't or won't keep that fantasy alive she's on to the next one till she runs out of credits and is forced to be a cat woman in an apartment in the valley.
This is the essence of how women see men. Women want to live in a world where they run around chasing butterflies while the men in their lives move everything out of the way so she can do this, and you only stop her when she's about to run out into traffic. The key to maintaining a long term relationship with a chick is to know the difference between when you should and should not stop her, because by and large she has no fvcking idea what is going to hurt her... she is being dragged around by her emotions.

To be in a LTR with a chick, you in essence, are adopting an adult child. And just like raising a kid is expensive... like-wise relationship chicks are expensive.

I had/have three dates this week, with three different women. My friends that are in relationships can't see how I do this because they think this is expensive. REALLY???? Man, steady girlfriends are A LOT more expensive, and if you have a wife HOLY FVCK. A dude spends MAYBE $30 a month on haircuts... A chick.... JESUS, $70-$80 a month to cut/style/dye... then at least once a week, getting a styling blow-out for $40.... Just her fvcking hair alone costs a married dude $200 a month. And if it's YOUR money, she's going to fvcking spend it. All my dates this week combined might cost me $100. I can go on six dates for what it costs to maintain a chick's hair.
 
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Most women are really in love with the idea of their princess day, I mean wedding day than the actual marriage.

Once reality sets in, they realize marriage is not an easy trip. Same for the man.
The same goes for kids. They like the idea of marriage and having kids(that's why you won't find a woman coddling a little baby), but they don't understand just how much more goes into it.
Some girls, I meet... they do talk about ''a relationship is not just feelings, its communication, commitment but WORK'' .... which I believe alot of youth forget cause they in the butterfly phase and let that guide them.
What do you mean by 'work' exactly? Like can you provide me with specific examples of what they have to do to make the relationship continue vs what they ACTUALLY do?
 

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The same goes for kids. They like the idea of marriage and having kids(that's why you won't find a woman coddling a little baby), but they don't understand just how much more goes into it.

What do you mean by 'work' exactly? Like can you provide me with specific examples of what they have to do to make the relationship continue vs what they ACTUALLY do?
Its called by the older génération.: Compromise
 
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