My greatest seduction ever and how I fvcked it up

[Chamber36]

So hear this. I've met an HB9, ****ed her in her house after many hours of resistance, though she made it possible. Every little ****-test was beautifully surfed around. She thought I was awesome. So let me explain.

She approached me first april 27 (king's day in my country). Says: "Oh you go to the gym. I see you all the time. You got a hair cut too! Omg the fact that I'm noticing that"

I was just kind of sober and at work, so I just chat with her and give her a kiss on the cheek and carry on with my work.

So I see her again a few weeks later at the same bar and I talk to her. I immediately asked for her number the second time, but only went and retreived it with my phone a minute later. Quite smooth. Even her friends were like: "That's really smooth", the moment I just walk up to her, tap her on the shoulder and whip out the Samsung Galaxy S8 without saying a word.

So I get the number, give her a hug, and carry on with my work.

I realise at that point that I should really quite necessarily keep her warm throughout the night, keep her feeling special. Keep spending some time with her and talk to her for a few seconds while I work.

So I do that. Eventually I'm talking to her and I just decide to make out with her. This was after I had been on tinder for like 1 week gaming chicks online cuz I just got the Samsung Galaxy s8, and it kind of reflected, in a good way, in the way that I made out with her. I realised I had to be semi-persistent. I was sort of in a persistent mode from talking to all those chicks just sifting through them on tinder. So I learned from that to just stay goal-oriented and not get side-tracked or distracted with obstacles.

I was quite surprised that her 2 HB9 friends had absolutely no problem with me, I had their approval, and I sort of negged them for giving me unnecessarily firm handshakes. Iterated that I don't like dominant women and kissed the girl some more.

So the night kind of proceeds like that. I'm working, walking around, go back to the girl, make out. Meanwhile I'm also trying to figure out the logistics of what we're going to do. I got the number with the idea we would go to the gym together. Then the idea was, once we'd made out, that we'd have drinks after. Everything perfectly smooth (I feel so bad mentally reliving this now as I write it, because in the end I'll fvck it up). She said she was going with her friends to drink at some guys place afterwords. I said she wasn't allowed (such perfectly awesome game - I feel like such a piece of **** I fvcked this up in the end). Well she liked my flirtation then she said she figured she would just go home and have some tea or something. I asked whether her friends were going or whether she was going alone. Anyways, the plan was in the end, that she would go home to her house. She told me the address. Then after work I would join her there and we were going to just talk. But I shouldn't expect anything. I said alright.

So I'm basically extatic after work, sweeping, taking my time. Having a cigarette, then I was out.

I go to her house. When I nearly get there I call her on the phone. She was almost home and I had to wait a while. So I wait. She gets there, we go inside, have wine.

You fvckers better believe me when I tell you this is so painful for me to relive now step by step in my mind, but I need to do it, just to savor the beauty of the game that I was running before I fvcked it up. And I fvcked it up so badly too, in such subtle ways that ended up being so crucial.

Soon as we sit down for wine, at a table on 2 chairs, she basically asks me everything about what makes me tick. I was so glad that I could spit my game, explain to her how I just figure there are 3 things important to me - school, gym, work. Once I have those 3 in order, in that specific order, then everything would be alright. And I do those things because I want to have a 'proper' life. I don't want a mediocre/****ty life. And when I get my bachelor's I want to get a Master's in Architecture.

So I was just really glad that there was a girl actually finally interested in what made me tick, and that I had the opportunity to show her that I have some actual substance. That doesn't happen to me very often.

After I explained everything, when I the timing allowed for it, I simply kissed her on the lips to convene the conversation and suggested we go sit on the couch. So we went and sat on the couch, I lit some candles (because she didn't want to) and we basically talked and kino'd from there.

When I took her leg and folded it over mine she was like "You have too much experience". I took it as an acknowledgement of all the time and energy that I had put into the game. On the inside I was really glad that somebody finally noticed, and that my effort was actually paying off, but I just sorta shrugged, lol.

So we continued talking. There were more ****-tests and I passed them with flying colors. She said: "I'm sure you take girls home from that bar all the time don't you", to which I replied: "It depends on the stars", which is perfectly true, and doesn't mean anything, except that when something like that happens either it's divine or that I am in tune with my world, patient, and just allow things to happen as they may. That's what it means.

Then when I started kissing up her breasts she said: "You really know what you're doing", to which I replied: "It's important to take you're time when you're dealing with a delicacy", and she burst out laughing, and asked where I came up with that, and what othe girls were. I said: "Fast food". Funny, but perfectly true as well. (Once again, sorry to explain things from such an ego-laden perspective, I'm just trying to give you guys the idea of how I felt. Trying to paint a picture for you of how things went).

So we lay there talking, kissing, me trying to get at her boobs and everything, but also not pressuring her in any way. Just trying to get her sort of turned on. I reassured her I didn't really need to fvck her (because I'd been blue-balled actually a few times earlier that month, so I kind of accepted that as a possibility). I just wanted to spend the night with her, if necessary sleeping with her on the couch. I didn't want her to go upstairs though and leave me there.

So anyway, after a few hours of that, I said: "Listen. Let me bring you upstairs and tuck you in and put you to bed. Either I'll jump in there with you or I'll go home but I'm too tired to just stay here on the couch and I need to sleep". To which she responded: "OK! But nothings going to happen!!" I said: "Yeah I know, keep your panties on".

So we went upstairs, I smoked one last cigarette out of her window as she took off her pants and got in the bed, then I joined her in the bed. Soon as I got in she was ALL over me. Making out with me quite heavily. She couldn't stop tossing and turning either. I had to take it slow. One moment she was all over me, the next she said: "no we're not doing anything!!", and she turned around. Not in a nut-job type of way. In a way where she didn't want to devalue herself by giving away her pvssy too quickly. I think she was raised quite well judging from the time it took me from getting in the door to getting in the pants.

When she had riled me up enough, and I got on top of her, she pushed me off, and I had to just lie down next to her. I realised that the trick to her was creating the distance and allowing for her to close that distance.

So when she came to me, and we were making out enough, the moment her legs were open I put my hand in there and got 1 finger in that pvssy. I knew from that moment that as soon as I was able to get 2 fingers in that pvssy that she was mine. I thought to my friend: "You gotta be that *******!", he always used to tell me. I understood. You have to be the one to do it all. So they're not at fault. It's your fault. Not hers. You stuck it in.

She actually said no about 10 times as I started fingering her *****, and actually pushed my arm down and away, but it wasn't a really serious no. It was a ****-test no. And it was a ****-test push of my arm. My friend gave me good advice when he said: "you gotta be that *******".

So I knew to continue. And I was savoring every moment of it. I started fvcking her. Then she got up and grabbed a condom (From Africa (??????)) and we started fvcking good.

I only fvcked her missionary though, because I had pedestalized this girl too much. HB9 I tell you. And making it so hard for me to fvck her. She asked me twice whether I wanted to switch position, but I said no. I wanted to look at her while I was fvcking her. Jesus christ. I really wanted to create a connection there, I swear to god. What a hot girl, and so feminine too, with nice blonde thick hair, and blue/lightgreen eyes.

So I fvcked her that night and then again the next morning.


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STAY TUNED FOR THE SECOND EPISODE LATERON WHERE I EXPLAIN HOW I **** IT UP.

 

[Serenity]

Oh ffs!!! Why did you not write the whole thing beforehand and copy paste it in 2 posts? I hate cliff hangers in forum threads.

She thought I was awesome.

I had their approval,

Even her friends were like: "That's really smooth"

As I read this I involuntarily imagined you to be a loyal dog wagging his tail being told he's a good boy, then I chuckled.

 

[Thorninmyside]

That's part one? Let me know when the movie comes out!

 

[skinnyguy]

If you put your finger in her pvssy, it's a done deal.

Lately I had to get rid of a plate because she was in my bed in her underwear and didn't let me smash even though we smashed multiple times before. If you have a good thing with a plate it can end at any time. You said you fvcked it up and that's almost normal these days. To keep a HB 9 for more than 3 months is a miracle.

 

[Chamber36]

If you put your finger in her pvssy, it's a done deal.

Lately I had to get rid of a plate because she was in my bed in her underwear and didn't let me smash even though we smashed multiple times before. If you have a good thing with a plate it can end at any time. You said you fvcked it up and that's almost normal these days. To keep a HB 9 for more than 3 months is a miracle.

I fvcked it up real quick, but it brought me back to earth. Made me realise I gotta work on my game.

I realised I should work on my abundance now. I've got a few chicks that are perfectly DTF. 3 in total, one of which is semi-gf. I should just keep myself amused with them, get myself into that abundance mentality, and stay mentally prepared for when I encounter that next HB9. That's what I learned up until now. To be ready.

But I'll let you guys know later how I fvcked it up. I'm at school now. I'll type it out soon enough.

Just hang in there.

 

[Chamber36]

So Let me finish the story:

We were supposed to meet the next monday at the gym. We;d made that plan in the bar before i went home with her. The next morning though after waking up I felt slightly inadequate, believe it or not. Looking at this chick get ready for work, 26yrs of age, I was pretty surprised I was able to handle such a girl. Especially with the nice guy game that flows from me naturally sometimes. I have the idea she was sort of insecure about it as well. I mean I would walk up behind her while she was doing her make-up/hair and just kiss her on the lips without even looking her in the eye or standing up straight. I was sort of submissive in that environment, as she was getting ready for work, but not shy of course of giving her a kiss.

So in the doorway before we left, I thought of some crap I'd read here on these forums about not asking about a day2 during day1, because u don't want to come off needy. Big mistake. I should have asked to confirm when we'd see each other next. She was still happy about it though, she was like: "When you see me at the gym don't laugh at me!", and we just kissed, I said don't be late for work, and we split our ways.

Felt good about it, but also kind of not good, because I wasn't really sure how to continue, also because I didn't confirm the day2 again. Didn't really know how to act.

A few hours later I just sent her this text: "Hope you have a nice day *kiss smiley*" or something like that (can't translate the dutch).

So she texts me a few hours later and we just keep texting. She had to go on holiday for the weekend though with her friends to the south of the country. I texted her how she was doing and stuff like that. She asked me about how I was doing at work, and that's how things went. She ****-tested me too: "Are there any fun people at the bar?", to which I responded: "Yes I'm the fun guy here". My boss helped me with the response.

So the next day, saturday night I'm working again. I wasn't focussed on any girls of course. I just had her on my mind. I do talk to customers though of course, and the girls like it when I just act like I do, you know. Communication just runs smoother when you run game. So I'm standing with a girl outside having a cigarette, next thing you know, I see her friend and roommate walk by and enter the bar!! Alarms go off for me!! I am like Jeesus fvcking christ. So I just go inside. Then there's this little annoying tourist chick who wants something, I talk to her. In the back of my mind I'm wondering whether the friend is watching. Every fvcking moment I have to look over my shoulder to figure out where the friend is at. In my mind I don't even want to talk to her, I just want to continue my work, because I know that anything I do wrong will be relayed.

Well, as time goes by, I end up at the bar, while it's a bit calmer, talking to the girl I was having a smoke with. I can tell she digs me. The whole time I'm looking over my shoulder, trying to see what's up, but I don't see the friend/roommate/spy. So the girl#2 says something which merited that I slap her on the ass. No other response was really adequate than that, that I could think of. So I just thought to myself "FVCK IT" and I slapped her on the ass. She was all like: "No don't do that!! Everybody can see it!!" and I was like: "Mehhh I don't give a fvck".

Anyways I wanted her number, we made plans to watch a movie, and I told my boss to give me a pen/paper, because I didn't want anybody to see me grab out my shiney phone with the bright-a$$ screen.

So the next day - Sunday - no text from HB9. Monday, I go to the gym, she doesn't show up. I feel pretty bad. After the gym. I call my friend, ask for advice, he tells me to just text her: "I was all alone in the sauna today", so that's what I sent.

Still no text by the end of the night. Around 1 AM I send her: "I don't really like that you're not texting me anymore", and then the next day she finally responds, while I'm at school on a tuesday morning. Said she was tired from her trip to the south of the country. I was so exhausted at that point from all the crap that I just responded something like: "don't worry about it, you just get some rest and I'll see you tomorrow". She responds: "Tomorrow?" I am like WTF. Wait 10-20 minutes, think, and I respond: "Yes". To which she responds: "I am busy with school bla bla bla", so I respond: "Well let me know when you have time then". Which I know is a big no-no in the game. I just had no clue at that point. I don't want to push or pressure. I suppose - looking back - I should have just looked forward toward a nice spontaneous meetup. Replied something like: "k", then maybe a week later called her up and asked her if she wants to have a drink. But no. I told her to "let me know". Of course she didn't let me know. So there I was. Waiting, for a whole fvcking week, for her to text me when she would have time. I was just waiting waiting waiting getting fvcking pissed off and going CRAZY over what to text her. Calling my friends, asking for advice. Just driving myself mad.

Eventually I ran into her at the gym again, probably a week or 2 later. She was happy to see me, she got a big grin on her face. But I simply didn't have the supreme confidence that I was supposed to have. I was resentful, if only slightly. I wanted to know why she didn't get back to me. However, I didn't know how to communicate that because I also felt guilty over the girl whose ass I had slapped. To make things even more confusing - by that time I was already fvcking the girl whose ass I had slapped and gone out with her in the neighborhood a few times. Plus I went on a double-date with 2 chicks off tinder, also right in the middle of the neighborhood. Her friends could have seen me out with all these girls. It was just too much for me emotionally.

So I just continue my workout while she does her Physio-exercises at the gym. I remember during my VERY VERY last set, I thought to myself: "I should just quit now and go look for her, because my belly tells me she's just finished her physio and this is the time to go find her". But no, I decided to complete the workout and do the last set. By the time I finish, probably 30 seconds later, I see her walk into the girls locker room.

So I figure she was now going to enter the sauna. She was flirting about us possibly going in the sauna together while we were at the bar. So I went in there. Again I was all by myself. You guys have no idea how I felt at the time. Completely out of it.

So I text her again by the time I get home. She says she had to hurry because she's really busy with school and stuff.

I respond: "Don't worry you focus on your school and when you finish I'll help you relax *wink*". Trying to play it cool. I think that was a bit too forward considering all the **** she was putting me through. An HB9 wants a guy who's indifferent. A guy who's confident. A guy who's unshakeable. Who doesn't get his sense of value or self-worth from a chick. That's where I fvcked up. Shoulda just responded all blase, then I might have been better off. Without talk about helping her relax. Man wtf do I know anyway. I had no idea why she was playing games. And I felt guilty because I was fvcking another chick - and her friend saw me slap that chick on the ass (at least that's what I think happened).

So the waiting game continued. I didn't know what she knew, I didn't know what she thought. I was IN THE DARK.

Waiting game goes on and on and on. A week or so later at school I lose patience. Call my friend. He tells me to just text her whatever the fvck, that u wanna know what's going on. He also tells me though that it might be true she just wants me to wait. And if she wants me to wait, then just say FVCK IT and wait. Don't just give up. Be fvckin cool.

So I decide to txt her this: "Hey if that night was just a one night stand let me know but I was planning on getting to know you better", to which she responded quite positively IMO. Something like: "Sweet *kiss smiley*, bla bla bla busy bla bla".

This time I wasn't planning on waiting for no reason so I wanted to make certain plans. So I respond: "When is your deadline?" (Finally with these types of texts I felt like I was redeeming my manliness. Finally I was asking for some concrete information). She resoinds: "At the end of june". Now consider, this was still in may, so I am like: "whaaaat the fuuuuuuck", and I semi-sarcastically respond: "Well I see that july 1st is a saturday. Would you like to meet up then?", and she responds with "Well at the start of july I'm going on holiday so I'll have to let you know". I was like Jeesus Christ this b*tch is fvcking evasive as hell!! Her pvssy was gold. The whole time while I was fvcking it I thought I was in her ass you know. I had to double-check to make sure it was in the pvssy, that's how tight that pvssy was. And I swear her fvcking morning-breath smelled good to me. I was just fvcking her with my tongue in her mouth in missionary the whole fvcking time. No disconnect. Just straight fvcking.

But she was evasive, elusive, slippery, ungraspable for a second time. Damn near ethereal. Wouldn't be caught quite that easily.

So... I decide to simply spend time with the other girl. Not much I could do but wait. Then one morning, me and the other girl go for a cup of coffee around 10-11 AM. We have our coffee, I give her a kiss on the lips, and she goes off to work. I decide I want a second cup of coffee, I get up to go inside, and who do I see? HB9. At least I thought it was her. All the hot blonde chicks look the same anyway, once they've reached a certain level of hotness.


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[Chamber36]

So I go up close to check, and sure enough it's her!! Having coffee with a friend of hers. I say hello, how are you, who's this, etc. I tell her: "I was just wondering if I'd see you at the gym tonight". She said no, her physio is almost done. After she introduces me to her friend I say to her: "You must be able to have time for me some time", to which she responds: "okay". So it seemed that I was back in the game. Either that or she didn't want to reject me there. I don't know. Now this is where the fvckup continues. I say to her friend: "She's been making me wait for 6 weeks you know". I immediately felt a bad energy as soon as I said that. Had no conception of the reason why. Still don't know for sure. Probably several reasons:

1. I'm badmouthing her in front of her friend.
2. I'm letting the friend know she's been narcing me and keeping me on hold. Towards her friends, any guy she's interested in has to be impeccable.
3. I'm getting her friend involved in things that she has no business knowing about. I was indiscrete.

So as soon as that happened I was getting one-word-answers. I tried to change the subject after that though. How is your school-paper going? "bad". Why is it going bad? "busy". She really didn't want to talk at all. So I respond: "you're paper's going bad because you're really busy?". She says: "yes". At that moment I got so fvcking nervous lol I got up and grabbed a cigarette and had to scramble through my pockets to even get a lighter. Meanwhile I asked her if she wanted to join me for coffee when she was done with her friend. She said no. Then I just apologized that I couldn't find my lighter (lol) and went and sat back down on my spot where to wait for my coffee.

Now I was completely confused. I actually called my mom for advice after that one. She said to just call the girl up.

I txt the girl this: "Hey can I call u because I would like some clarification".

She responds: "Hey I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong idea but I'm not looking for anything right now and I've got a lot on my mind so I don't want to meet up".

So I respond: "Well thank you! Finally some clarification!" - next text "But it's alright I'm a sportsman so I'll just wish you the best and carry on".
She responds: "And of course I wish you the same"

I was cool with that. A few hours later though I had to send another final text which was this: "Hey also I want to apologize if I gave you the wrong idea, I was just sort of taken aback by you, but nevertheless I wish you the best and if you ever change your mind let me know".

So that's how I'd finished that game.

What happened subsequently - that was the same game that my new girl (from the ass-slapping-at-the-bar) had just gone to Asia for 2 weeks.

So those 2 weeks I was trying to get another pvssy to fvck ASAP! I just wanted to take advantage of the chance to get pvssy while she was away. Big mistake. I'd taken the 2 weeks off because of school (which I also have to do), so I couldn't hustle any b*tches there at work (where I get 90% of my pvssy). I exhausted myself looking for pvssy. Went out a few nights I could barely think. Also because I was studying during hte day-time so my brain was completely fried.

After about 2 weeks of mentally exhausting myself studying and trying to get pvssy during the nighttime, without getting enough sleep, and without sufficiently going to the gym, I watched a RSDfreetour video and realised that I had really fvcked it up with that HB9 chick. That I was just going out drinking and looking for pvssy because I was mentally avoiding the fact that I had just fvcked it up and lost a really nice girl. I was relieved when she said she wasn't looking for anything initially, but really, when it sunk in, I was pretty distraught and quite upset.

So I considered writing her a letter. Sending it to her house. Explaining that I only was with the other chick since she had stood me up at the gym and not made second plans. But no.

Thankfully my *COMPLETE PLAYER PRO* friend came over the other day, and after I explained the situation to him, I gave him my phone, and he simply sent her this follow-up text: "May I ask what kind of things you've got on your mind?". That was one hell of an adrenaline rush for me. Was crazy. He said that I did fvck it up pretty bad by trying to get closure all the time and not just being light-hearted-persistent by simply asking her to join me for stuff every now and then - in an alpha way. For example texting her something like: "Hey you've been studying long enough now come outside we're having drinks".

I argued that I couldn't act like too much of a player because she ****-tested me 10 times whether I was a player and whether I was too experienced. Also I'd fallen for her within one night.

Well she hasn't responded. But I'm mentally coping and trying to sort through this fvck up in my mind right now. Watching RSDTyler's video's.

So I figure I should just keep fvcking HB6's and HB7's - more than one girl - so that I feel as though I have a true abundance of pvssy, and then the next time I encounter an HB9, I can be more indifferent towards her because I'll have something nice going on with the HB6's and HB7's. That way the HB9 will feel I didn't fully validate her and work for my validation. This is all theory right now, but it makes perfect sense and I know I can do it. I just need to keep my school - work - gym in order and keep fvcking the lower tier girls. I've got 3 girls that are DTF right now as I'm typing this. I just don't really care about 2 of them at all, and 1 of them is just not really good LTR material because she's not as refined as the HB9.

So there - that was a recap of my first big Fvck up of 2017.

Let me know what you think - let me know where I fvcked up and what I could have done better. All the pro's give me your opinion and let me know if there's any follow-up game that I can implement. She's still in my phone, I haven't been blocked. She's leaving the country in September though so I want to get the b*tch back before then lol.

I figure the best way to continue is just to ignore everything - all the texting - that happened up until now, and maybe if I get drunk and feel like it texting her some obnoxious crap like: "Hey I'm in your neighborhood and I'm hungry can you fry me an egg?", or something like that. That's what my friend told me and that's really the best way to continue imo if I do anything at all. It's not likely to work, but it's almost all I can do. Or I can wait for her to come to me, or see whether she's amazed next time she sees me.

I figure it's best to just focus on the night we had together, to appreciate that for what it was, and when I see her not to give too much credence to the texting. Remind her of the great night we had and continue the game from there.

That's all I can think of.

END

 

[fastlife]

This one's over. You nailed the coffin shut and then kept hammering. And you know it. And it's OK.

The only take away from here is that you know your frame has a weak spot. But knowing that is half the battle; the other half is taking responsibility for it. You are not equipped to deal with uncertainty & radio silence. That, for me, is/was the last sh1t test I realized I couldn't pass. It still drives me crazy sometimes, What if I said something wrong? Should I text her this? Sh1t, that wasn't the response I was looking for. It's a downward spiral and by the end of it, you've lost so much frame that you're dead in the water.

Trust that she'll get back to you. Play it cool. Go with your gut--and let the cards fall where they may. Abundance, brother. Outcome independence. It just takes longer with hot girls.

Notice you were getting pulled every which way? Notice you were getting advice from friends. Notice how you were totally self-less (and not in a good way but with no identity) and lost any semblance of congruence. Don't sweat it. You acted just like every other guy who ever fvcked her probably did. You hadn't been there before & now you have.

Next time take a week off. I'll text her next week--I'll figure it out then but right now I'm not going to solve this problem. If you still feel needy after a week, wait two; if you still feel needy after that, wait a month.

 

[Chamber36]

Notice you were getting pulled every which way? Notice you were getting advice from friends. Notice how you were totally self-less (and not in a good way but with no identity) and lost any semblance of congruence. Don't sweat it. You acted just like every other guy who ever fvcked her probably did. You hadn't been there before & now you have.

Yes, yes yes. True true true.

Abundance --> Outcome independence --> Congruence

That's where it went wrong already really.

The very first text after she stood me up at the sauna. Already I was not being myself. Feeling illequipped to handle such a girl. Oh well. I live and I learn. Especially looking back on it this way, getting opinions from different people, I learn different things.

In order for me to fully be congruent though I have to learn how to deal with these situations though and how to express myself in a concise way which is true to myself. I was just kind of like a fish-out-of-water because I didn't know what exactly she wanted emotionally.

I suppose, spiritually speaking, I have to have no expectations at all, yet being totally open to anything great that might happen. When things don't turn out the way that I like, there's nothing wrong with expressing disappointment. It just has to be in a "real" type of way which is true to who I am. Oh well.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[fastlife]

In order for me to fully be congruent though I have to learn how to deal with these situations though and how to express myself in a concise way which is true to myself. I was just kind of like a fish-out-of-water because I didn't know what exactly she wanted emotionally.

I suppose, spiritually speaking, I have to have no expectations at all, yet being totally open to anything great that might happen. When things don't turn out the way that I like, there's nothing wrong with expressing disappointment. It just has to be in a "real" type of way which is true to who I am. Oh well.

Close. You still have to have a vision for what you want--a reality for the girl to live in--a FRAMEWORK for what a relationship with you looks like & what you will or will not tolerate from the people you let occupy that reality.

But the closer your frame matches the reality, the happier you'll be. Stop thinking about what she wants/what role you should fill in her life & start focusing on ways each girl can fit in your life to better serve your reality. Your frame will also change over time.

For instance, this time last year my frame was I don't like flakes. If a girl flakes, she's done. But it turns out, after a year of cold approach pickup, that that frame doesn't match reality. Girls flake. And it's a super scarce mindset--one chance & if you hit her on a bad day or texted something dumb, THAT'S IT. She's done so you better text her with the perfect text at the perfect moment.

I tossed that frame. I'm abundant; I'll give her a couple chances since I'm a generous dude.

A frame I had years ago was If a girl wants me, she better chase after me. Makes sense, right? But I'll be damned if it doesn't annoy the p1ss out of me when I'm trying to make plans with other girls or to just chill one night or to work on a project.

But the only way you learn these things is through life experience & testing. You have to get very specific with who you are/who you want to be/how you react to different situations. The more discomfort you go thru, the more plates you break, the more you get burned, the more specific & stronger your frame will be.

 

[Chamber36]

Close. You still have to have a vision for what you want--a reality for the girl to live in--a FRAMEWORK for what a relationship with you looks like & what you will or will not tolerate from the people you let occupy that reality.

But the closer your frame matches the reality, the happier you'll be. Stop thinking about what she wants/what role you should fill in her life & start focusing on ways each girl can fit in your life to better serve your reality. Your frame will also change over time.

For instance, this time last year my frame was I don't like flakes. If a girl flakes, she's done. But it turns out, after a year of cold approach pickup, that that frame doesn't match reality. Girls flake. And it's a super scarce mindset--one chance & if you hit her on a bad day or texted something dumb, THAT'S IT. She's done so you better text her with the perfect text at the perfect moment.

I tossed that frame. I'm abundant; I'll give her a couple chances since I'm a generous dude.

A frame I had years ago was If a girl wants me, she better chase after me. Makes sense, right? But I'll be damned if it doesn't annoy the p1ss out of me when I'm trying to make plans with other girls or to just chill one night or to work on a project.

But the only way you learn these things is through life experience & testing. You have to get very specific with who you are/who you want to be/how you react to different situations. The more discomfort you go thru, the more plates you break, the more you get burned, the more specific & stronger your frame will be.

What I really mean when I say I didn't know what she wanted emotionally is this: I was afraid to claim her.

I was afraid that if I'd try to claim her, claim her time, whatever, that I would come across is trying to clamor onto her. So I asked my player friend for advice on how to act. But I can't pull off that aloofness. The aloofness isn't congruent with me. After playing aloof for 1 week I was going crazy.

I might have been better off just really fully expressing myself - not through a barrage of texts - but by simply expressing myself romantically.

 

[IraLeo]

Damn...

HB9, yes, happened to me few months ago. First text, no reply. I knew this was coming. Second text, two weeks later. Responded but when i asked her out, nothing.

I rest my case over there and then moved on. 2 months later pops out of nowhere. Now she shows up everywhere i go, every god d**m hangout places. Sometimes even sent out her friends to spy on me. She approaches and initiates every time. By herself and sometimes with a random dude or her friends. Kept my smile and thought " i should buy those sosuave guys drinks every-time this happens". Currently spinning 2 HB9 and HB8.

Stuff happens. I think i don't know who said this "when in doubt, do nothing, say nothing". Abundance mentality + 48 Laws of power + and ate a red pill, is what helping me with these girls. Like fastlife said, things happen with a girl. I don't text girls too much, only for meet up. Flirting face to face or by calling them (10 max).

 

[Chamber36]

Thx for thr reply

 

[Chamber36]

It eats me up on the inside. I'm sitting outside my house now drunk, listening to my neighbor practice their piano skills.

I keep thinking of **** to send the girl. But i just cant bring myself to send anything. She told me she ain't looking for anything but deep down inside i can't believe it. Why the fvck would she take me to her house if she wasn't looking for nothing? Did she think i was just some player bartender dude? Dont think so. My incongruencies fvcked it up. And i just dont know how to recongruence myself.

Theres so little i can do. And what for? Some tight *****? She was charming though.

Pook said to pursue womenthe with passion, to pursue them romantically. But i feel as though anything i say will be misconstrued. Im sure these have been the problems of all AFC's throughout the ages.

I've been meaning to hit the gym but I havent been doing it right ever since this *****. I got another one dtf thank god and i got a bunch of exams too but god damn.

I havent beeb myself lately and i feel like sending her some intensely polarizing **** so i can be over with it.

On the.other hand i know that if she would show interest i'd be wary because of this little fiasco.

I am a mess. I'll be fvcking in no time though.

I just want to express myself towards her and she's gone stone cold.

Fvck me.

Someone gimme this from her perspective pls if possible. Whats her perspective. Someone tell me plz. Because she was digging me real hard at the start. Aftet i fvcked her though i just couldn't handle it because of the pressure and the paranoia her friend saw me with that other chick.

I bet that made her wary and fvcked me over and her too.

 

[Chamber36]

Hey guys I still feel like ****.

I want to tell the girl how I feel about her not for the sake of getting her but I just feel as though I didn't get to explain myself that's why I'm so upset.

Can you guys please give me some more advice because I can barely even concentrate on school now.