She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Look man, I'm not trying to hate on you. I gave my analysis, however, don't you think saying this is a bit silly? This thread is you asking for advice on game with a mgtow mindset. When you didn't get the 'yeah! fūck women!' response you were looking for, all of a sudden you've got super hot girls coming upto you...
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I think MGTOW doesn't need any game. If you have the looks, then women are going to want you (i.e you don't need game, they throw themselves on you), so you use them for sex and go to the next girl (as you are an in-demand guy) rather than go into a relationship with them and push back if things get too serious. If you don't have the looks then you just visit prostitutes otherwise you are celibate (which is not MGTOW since that's not a celibate group). (I.e. you won't be able to sleep with hot girls unless you pay for them, no matter what game you have, if you are ugly)
Hence why I called him out. This guy thinks all women are savages and belongs in the kitchen yet he's having hot women approach him?!?
Actually I can do my own cooking.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Labels, labels, and more labels.
That's not the entire story of MGTOW. If you read their philosophy, it all makes sense. Don't just pay attention to the people that join the group. I looked at the MGTOW forum and it was exactly what you said. I think Roosh V is a happy medium.
This is a load of cr*p. 100+ years of feminism has not ruined men and will not lead to the downfall of Western Civilization.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.