“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Girls who drooled over the bad boy, then rebounded with a needy beta

cityboy989

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I always found this situation intriguing and I see it happen alot. You know-- girls who are generally trainwrecks, have alot of baggage, and love drama-- getting pumped and dumped by alphas but then finally deciding to (rebound) with an unattractive, needy Captain Save-A-Ho. Do these ever blossom into something wonderful (marriage,long-term stability) or do women just "try out" these guys and use them for short-term stability and to regain their sense of self-worth? (Before THEY dump him, and go back to whoring around or whatever they do.)
 

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I find more often than not, the types who are naturally promiscuous and a bit screwy in the head, will always manage to mess up a relationship or end it, even with a "nice guy"
Until they reach their 30's and start looking like losers who can't lock down a man. Then like MAGIC they learn how to act right. Its a breathtaking thing to watch.
 

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Until they reach their 30's and start looking like losers who can't lock down a man. Then like MAGIC they learn how to act right. Its a breathtaking thing to watch.
Hmm.. maybe so. I'd have to say that depends on how screwy the female is. Afterall, not everybody is CAPABLE of attaining stability in their life. And as the old saying goes-- you can't turn a ho into a housewife.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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She will ether cheat on him or she will morph into a fat b!tchy nag and make his life a living hell. This seldom ends well. The Nice Guy will need to become a better man or he is headed to hell.
 

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Quote:

" In the manosphere, the term "Captain Save a Ho" has come to signify a beta male who is willing to invest significant resources and commitment into a woman who has a tumultuous sexual history.

Captain Save a Ho is typically inexperienced when it comes to women, and believes he has found a more attractive woman than he could secure otherwise. Captain Save a Ho will commit to former (or current) strippers, sex workers, carousel riders , divorcees, and single mothers, believing that she now finds his stability attractive, and that she has learned from her mistakes in the past. Often these relationships do not end well for Captain Save a Ho, because while she enjoys the stability, she also does not find him particularly physically satisfying"
 

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I always found this situation intriguing and I see it happen alot. You know-- girls who are generally trainwrecks, have alot of baggage, and love drama-- getting pumped and dumped by alphas but then finally deciding to (rebound) with an unattractive, needy Captain Save-A-Ho. Do these ever blossom into something wonderful (marriage,long-term stability) or do women just "try out" these guys and use them for short-term stability and to regain their sense of self-worth? (Before THEY dump him, and go back to whoring around or whatever they do.)
Welcome back and congratulations on not using the acronym BPD yet (wait, I spoke too soon, but rest my case, pelvischestly).

Let's examine your bitterness:

1) trainwrecks (I must say this is something to avoid)
2) baggage
3) drama
4) pumped and dumped
5) alphas (you worship them)
6) unattractive
7) needy
8) Captain Save a Ho
9) Do these ever blossom
10) "try out" the guys
11) use them
12) short-term
13) regain their sense of self-worth
14) THEY dump him
15) whoring around
16) whatever they do

All of this in ONE PARAGRAPH. THREE SENTENCES, SIXTEEN BAD TERMS.

I haven't used or read this many bad terms in my 1000 texts in my current 8 month relationship, and cityboy989 is a volcano of spite.

These are the terms that fill your mind, mainly because (let's face it) you most likely don't have a good job and you don't have a hot girlfriend.

You worship alphas, belittle women and look down upon the men they date. You're the type that says "She's a wh*re and he's a john!". Wait, BOTH sides are bad in a mutually beneficial relationship? Why are you so bitter? I suspect you haven't the resources to be a john and haven't the looks to seduce a ho.

In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. Women vote with their feet.
 

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City Boy, be honest: have you EVER been laid? You're a 23 year old virgin, correct?

Here is what will cure you:

 

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I've seen a lot of this over the years, and IMO, these types of women are living a dilemma they don't know how to resolve and rarely ever figure it out.

Seems clear to me that they bounce back and forth between these different types of men because they desire the particular traits each provides. They like the excitement, passion or whatever else the "bad boy" provides, but they eventually come to long for the stability, honesty, romantisisum or trust that so often is lacking in their bad boy excursions.

The dilemma for them is that very few men can provide both aspects, and those few men who do will have nothing to do with such a woman. That essentially leaves these women to bounce back and forth, hoping they'll stumble upon a man who rouses them in both ways, which they never do.

These women fail to understand that the issue is with them. They lack the mental articulation to develop standards, read red flags and so forth, which is sort of a prerequisite to becoming a person who can live up to the standards and avoid the red flag behaviors recognized by the very men they're really looking for.

So instead, they operate on a principle of immediate gratification. They long for the nice guy when they finally grow tired of the bad boys BS, and they long for the bad boy when they grow bored of the nice guy. The rest of us,meanwhile, run for the hills from these women.
This.

What makes it even worse is that the "alphas" they were involved with were probably mostly good-looking dudes who could draw in females with their looks alone. And most of the time, the "betas" that these same women get involved with, typically aren't physically attractive in their eyes. Like you said, to them it's either "a-hole or nice guy." This is why most young girls date bad boys. The TRUE alphas are few and far between and want nothing to do with these women. But once they reach 28, 30 and they rebound from an "alpha" with a physically unattractive needy nice guy, they're forcing themselves very HARD and unnaturally to change things up. Maybe some do end in longterm commitment, but I find that these guys are simply self-esteem boosters and are bridging the gap for the next guy in line. Though most of these damaged women claim to want stability, they wouldn't know what stability is if it hit them in the face.
 

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When a package gets damaged in the mail, does it at one point repair itself and show up at it's destination looking good as new?

No.

When women are damaged, they're usually damaged for life.

Very true. People rarely if ever change. Disordered people actually in most cases get worse with age.

These women fail to understand that the issue is with them. They lack the mental articulation to develop standards, read red flags and so forth, which is sort of a prerequisite to becoming a person who can live up to the standards and avoid the red flag behaviors recognized by the very men they're really looking for. .
Good post. I agree, the one ex (HPD) whom I was too stupid and uneducated at the time cried many times asking me why no one wants to marry her and have children. This was after we had two abortions. I stayed for another year after and got destroyed by her due to feeling a huge amount of guilt for the abortions I made her get.

Looking back your answer is so spot on. It was as if she was in such denial or too stupid to realize the problem lies with her. She was in denial of being a wh0re, plays the wifely card, then does inappropriate chit or cheats, gets dumped or leaves, all while blaming everyone but herself for her bad luck and unhappiness.

That's why getting married is often a bad idea for men. I care more about my MONEY than women. Getting married puts me at greater risk of losing my money. Its about priorities in the end.
Spot on. Women only bring temporary happiness and cost a lot of money n stress in the process. Self love and having a hefty bank account will always bring more joy than getting tied down in a marriage, especially living in this pump n dump era we live in.
 
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People are always changing.

All you need to do is steer them onto the right path and they will self-correct.

The key is a raw diet and being close to your family. Try those for 6 months and tell me you didn't change her for the better. Consider:
  • In 1988 I got a girl to quit smoking (I explained how hemoglobin works).
  • 2003 I got a girl to quit smoking (Zand detox kit was solution).
  • In 2013 I got an alcoholic girl to quit drinking (Zand detox kit was solution).
  • In 2017 I got a stripper to quit stripping and reconnect with her father (I showed her how high her modeling photos rated).
 

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They don't act right lol, only long enough to get commitment.
That's why getting married is often a bad idea for men. I care more about my MONEY than women. Getting married puts me at greater risk of losing my money. Its about priorities in the end.
 

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People are always changing.

All you need to do is steer them onto the right path and they will self-correct
There's a saying: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
 

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I've seen a lot of this over the years, and IMO, these types of women are living a dilemma they don't know how to resolve and rarely ever figure it out.

Seems clear to me that they bounce back and forth between these different types of men because they desire the particular traits each provides. They like the excitement, passion or whatever else the "bad boy" provides, but they eventually come to long for the stability, honesty, romantisisum or trust that so often is lacking in their bad boy excursions.

The dilemma for them is that very few men can provide both aspects, and those few men who do will have nothing to do with such a woman. That essentially leaves these women to bounce back and forth, hoping they'll stumble upon a man who rouses them in both ways, which they never do.

These women fail to understand that the issue is with them. They lack the mental articulation to develop standards, read red flags and so forth, which is sort of a prerequisite to becoming a person who can live up to the standards and avoid the red flag behaviors recognized by the very men they're really looking for.

So instead, they operate on a principle of immediate gratification. They long for the nice guy when they finally grow tired of the bad boys BS, and they long for the bad boy when they grow bored of the nice guy. The rest of us,meanwhile, run for the hills from these women.
EXCELLENT response.
 

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But does this change if the woman is a single mom? I say if you aren't stable, you can't find stability. And the beta nice guy act only lasts for so long until you want the "alphas" again or at least something close to that. I would say a girl must be VERY desperate for herself (and/or her child) to settle longterm for somebody she's not really interested in. And afterall, you can't turn a ho into a housewife
 
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