"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Girl keeps telling me to talk more

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I try to stick to the 80/20 rule but she has said a few times now that she wants me to talk more. She will say stuff like "tell me something about you" lol by no means am I letting her do all the talking, the other night Id say it was 40% me talking out of the time we were together.

How would you guys handle this?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If a woman told me she wanted me to talk more I would ask her why. If I wanted to be a d*ck, I would tell her she should talk less. Regardless of how I respond, I would not talk any more than I ever did. She either accepts your personality the way it is or she doesn't.

Don't go down the road of changing who you are to make a woman happy. Every woman will try to change you to test your strength. Men who are easily molded are weak and desperate.
 

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Says that maybe you are not leading the conversation enough. I haven't found one woman (or person for that matter) that doesn't love to talk about themself as long as you guide them along. They will ask you things, but you turn it back on them. My last date, I got pretty much her whole life story, and divulged very little (superficial things like music, work, etc.). Needless to say, it was enough to next her... I have to determine if she is worth a second look, since I don't have many nights I can take a woman out...
 

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Let me explain what you are in at the moment: lets see you found a new show,the show is very entertaining that you finish a season every night,and the show has only 4 seasons,after you watch all the episodes you do not give a sh1t about the show,nor re watch it again.get the point.
Do not listen to her because after your show is over,she wont give a **** about you,id change the subject and talk about non personal random sh1t when its my turn to talk about myself.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It's one thing to make slight adjustments to make the other person more comfortable. For example, introverts may want to talk a little more around an extrovert to make them more comfortable, and extroverts should "chill" and talk slightly less around introverts to relax them.

But if she is working hard to pry you for information, that IS genuinely off-putting.

I tell curious (or try-hard people) asking me too many questions that, "I have a two question limit."

They laugh AND get the message.
 

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This could also be the starting signs of low interest/disrespect.

Once girls start requesting you to change regarding your personal appearance, personality, etc. it starts to demonstrate that their interest may be waning/is low/etc.
 
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This could also be the starting signs of low interest/disrespect.

Once girls start requesting you to change regarding your personal appearance, personality, etc. it starts to demonstrate that their interest may be waning/is low/etc.
Yes... You can let them guide you about 10% on appearance, maybe they have a preference, but you shouldn't go completely restructuring for them.
 

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This could also be the starting signs of low interest/disrespect.

Once girls start requesting you to change regarding your personal appearance, personality, etc. it starts to demonstrate that their interest may be waning/is low/etc.
Yes... You can let them guide you about 10% on appearance, maybe they have a preference, but you shouldn't go completely restructuring for them.
 

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It's a s hit test trying to see if she can change you. Stick to your guns and do what ever you have been doing.

Her: you don't talk enough

You: smile, I think you talk enough for the both of us. Do this in a playful maner. Then tickle her.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This could also be the starting signs of low interest/disrespect.

Once girls start requesting you to change regarding your personal appearance, personality, etc. it starts to demonstrate that their interest may be waning/is low/etc.
I think this might be happening to a friend of mine, but I hope not.

He is one of my best buddies and we go way back. He used to be an animal with women until the last girl he really liked dumped him. Since then he lost a lot of confidence. Now he has a new girl and she is always breaking his balls. Last week I was hanging out with them and talking about crazy stuff we did years ago. Every story I told his girlfriend would playfully slam him and say stuff like: "Good thing I didn't know you back then". Sure.. you can say that once, and its a good joke, but she was doing this crap all night. Just breaking his balls constantly. It started to annoy me and I even told her: Hey we were young back then. I'm sure you've done some crazy things too. Then she said she has never done anything bad, which is obviously bullsh*t. Even during conversations with me and him she would but in just to slam him. She even asked me how I could be friends with him. I wanted to say, you're f*cking him so what's your point? But I knew it would create an awkward situation.

I just hope he is not in a sh*tty relationship. This is one of my best friends. If this doesn't work out for him I might have to take a risk and talk to him about the red pill. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
 
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I try to stick to the 80/20 rule but she has said a few times now that she wants me to talk more. She will say stuff like "tell me something about you" lol by no means am I letting her do all the talking, the other night Id say it was 40% me talking out of the time we were together.

How would you guys handle this?
Be careful. When a woman says I want you to "Open up", she wants to extract information out of you and live on her terms. If its against your nature to do it, why would you do it just to "please" her?
 
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