"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Is sideways glance IOI or IOD

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I am walking towards the girl on the right side of pavewalk. She is on the left side looking straight in front of her. I look at her face. She moves her eyes rapidly to the other side (but no downward movement) without or with head movement. Then get back to looking straight ahead. Is it IOI or IOD or maybe some other feeling like embarrassment?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I am walking towards the girl on the right side of pavewalk. She is on the left side looking straight in front of her. I look at her face. She moves her eyes rapidly to the other side (but no downward movement) without or with head movement. Then get back to looking straight ahead. Is it IOI or IOD or maybe some other feeling like embarrassment?

meaningless.

only true interest is you asking a chick out and her not only saying yes but actually showing up to meet you where you'll be.

Anything else is mental masturbation.
 

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meaningless.

only true interest is you asking a chick out and her not only saying yes but actually showing up to meet you where you'll be.

Anything else is mental masturbation.
I saw this few times today and I remember reading about this sideways glace somewhere it good to know such cues but of course utlimately what counts is whether she decide to go for date. Unfortunately I chcickened out so I will not know soon.
 

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I saw this few times today and I remember reading about this sideways glace somewhere it good to know such cues but of course utlimately what counts is whether she decide to go for date. Unfortunately I chcickened out so I will not know soon.
such "cues" mean little to nothing and could mean anything. only "cue" she possibly likes you is again you talking to her, asking her to meet you at a place you're going to be at and she says yes and shows up to be alone with you.

then the rest is up to the both of you and how you get on and progress.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Stop analyzing this meaningless sh*t.

If you think she's interested, make a move. Take the initiative. And only one of two things happen.

1. She follows your lead and she says yes, complete with the backing actions.

2. She turns you down, dodges you, etc.

On #2, don't linger unless you want to be an orbiter.

Case closed. Make a damn move.
 

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Tell her to suck on your cawk!! Maybe it'll work!
 

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She may actually be ****-eyed ftw.
cawk-eyed for the win?

U mean she wants the D!

OP is missing the signals lol
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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such "cues" mean little to nothing and could mean anything. only "cue" she possibly likes you is again you talking to her, asking her to meet you at a place you're going to be at and she says yes and shows up to be alone with you.

then the rest is up to the both of you and how you get on and progress.
Walking down the footpath, you are forced into proximity, and people will just naturally glance at others. Not much to be read into here. Move along.

But when you are in a situation such as queue, or a coffee shop, and you get a 'look', and the body language backs it up, then this is often a 'signal' to approach. I 'interrogate' the word because it is more often than not an unconscious act on the woman's part - her behavior is often reflexive or instinctive.... as should be the man's when he responds. There is a sense of 'thrownness' in all genuine unforced erotic encounters because there are forces at play that transcend the ego.:rolleyes:
 

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Walking down the footpath, you are forced into proximity, and people will just naturally glance at others. Not much to be read into here. Move along.

But when you are in a situation such as queue, or a coffee shop, and you get a 'look', and the body language backs it up, then this is often a 'signal' to approach. I 'interrogate' the word because it is more often than not an unconscious decision on the woman's part - her behavior is often reflexive or instinctive.... as should be the man's when he responds.
Nothing is for sure until you find out by talking to a chick, asking her out, she says yes and shows up to the place you are at to be alone with you.
 

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Nothing is for sure until you find out by talking to a chick, asking her out, she says yes and shows up to the place you are at to be alone with you.
Yes, but if the interaction starts off the way I described [very warm] then there is a fair chance of it going somewhere. A lot of cold approach is a waste of time and energy because it lacks this initial impetus. In my opinion, the only reason people should be doing cold approach is to conquer approach anxiety. I doubt it is a DJ norm.
 

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A lot of cold approach is a waste of time and energy because it lacks this initial impetus. In my opinion, the only reason people should be doing cold approach is to conquer approach anxiety. I doubt it is a DJ norm.
If cold approach is waste of time how do you find a woman then? There is very little IOI I am gating lately or I am missing them. Situation in the queue is to much for me. To many people to go direct and I find it hard to go indirect. Often there is nothing to talk about.
 
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If cold approach is waste of time how do you find a woman then? There is very little IOI I am gating lately or I am missing them. Situation in the queue is to much for me. To many people to go direct and I find it hard to go indirect. Often there is nothing to talk about.
Sounds like the social pressure is too much for you. One way around that is to act as if you know the woman... that deals with the social pressure of not talking to strangers.. and actually makes a stranger comfortable when you do talk to them,

For example, yesterday I sat down next to a lady, in full view of a crowded coffee shop, and opened up a conversation nonchalantly as if I knew her [I also got her number]. The thing is, you have to have in your mind the healthy thought that it is both natural and social to talk to people.... but also be SELECTIVE in who you do talk to. That way, you will be not be perceived as creepy but either yourself or the lady, or the bystanders. You do not creep up on the woman, but strike confidently.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sounds like the social pressure is too much for you. One way around that is to act as if you know the woman... that deals with the social pressure of not talking to strangers.. and actually makes a stranger comfortable when you do talk to them,

For example, yesterday I sat down next to a lady, in full view of a crowded coffee shop, and opened up a conversation nonchalantly as if I knew her [I also got her number]. The thing is, you have to have in your mind the healthy thought that it is both natural and social to talk to people.... but also be SELECTIVE in who you do talk to. That way, there will be not be perceived as creepy but either yourself or the lady, or the bystanders. You do not creep up on the woman, but strike confidently.

Today I wanted to approach few times. I had few IOIs in one situation girl just sat down on the same small coach that I was sitting. I was in the mall so there were a lot of people so I chickened out. My number one excuse is that people are watching. When I see the girl I just become ultra aware of my surroundings I can even here footsteps of people behind me.
 

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Today I wanted to approach few times. I had few IOIs in one situation girl just sat down on the same small coach that I was sitting. I was in the mall so there were a lot of people so I chickened out. My number one excuse is that people are watching. When I see the girl I just become ultra aware of my surroundings I can even here footsteps of people behind me.
Yes, you are in your head. When a woman comes into proximity, and sits near you, consider that it is actually RUDE not to smile and ask how her day's going.

Your problem is you have 'approach anxiety. Perhaps you need to do 'cold approach', in a large city, to overcome it. Then once you are 'normalized' you can carry on with the more normal warm approach.
 

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Yes, you are in your head. When a woman comes into proximity, and sits near you, consider that it is actually RUDE not to smile and ask how her day's going.

Your problem is you have 'approach anxiety. Perhaps you need to do 'cold approach', in a large city, to overcome it. Then once you are 'normalized' you can carry on with the more normal warm approach.
Yes, I have to overcome approach anxiety somehow. Problem is when woman I do not know comes near and I know I should approach her I feel very nervous -- I do not have such problems in e.g. work enviornment.

I am not sure what do you mean by warm approach. Only form I know of worm approach is through a social circle e.g. work environment. In such case my social circle are not feeding me any womans -- I am new in city and my work is almost 100% masculine. Woman I met in work generally fvck arround and are very flakey.
 
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Yes, I have to overcome approach anxiety somehow. Problem is when woman I do not know comes near and I know I should approach her I feel very nervous -- I do not have such problems in e.g. work enviornment.

I am not sure what do you mean by warm approach. Only form I know of worm approach is through a social circle e.g. work environment. In such case my social circle are not feeding me any womans -- I am new in city and my work is almost 100% masculine. Woman I met in work generally fvck arround and are very flakey.
'Warm' approach is when the woman makes it easy for you to approach. She shows some sign of interest, and puts herself in harm's way. All you then need to do is respond.
 
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