KingBeef
Master Don Juan
This seems pretty clear, genuine and simple to the point. You can personalize it if you'd like. Just be confident and friendly."You seem cool. Let's grab drinks sometime"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
This seems pretty clear, genuine and simple to the point. You can personalize it if you'd like. Just be confident and friendly."You seem cool. Let's grab drinks sometime"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Sure. You meet a gorgeous woman on a Saturday, she tells you that you are handsome and she is single, and she agrees to meet 6 days later for dinner, and it's all just for a free meal.Nothing a woman loves more than a free meal.
1) You can't deny the official 20 vote consensus of the women I had rated. Two members wrote to me and had their photos rated 98/99. The ratings I referred to are the standard. PM me some photos of the "100 women you slept with" and I'll have them rated. Hint: they are not rated 99/100.1) Your girls are not 9s or 10s. More like 6s if you are referring to the girls you posted in other threads. If you wish to photo exchange, I'll send you real 8s and 9s via PM. I'm not about to post pics in a forum to expose the identities of girls that I plate, unlike you, which shows you probably had no real relations with them to begin with.
2) Among posting pics of women (who you allege to have banged), your defensiveness of their looks, your pedestal-ing of women to coerce them into first dates, and your "editing" of the ages of the women you banged in Post 10 and thus caught lying, your insecurity is palpable.
3) You use daddy game, and get used for upfront resources, while others bang the same girls for free.
4) You buy affections of women. This is called pandering.
5) You lack the fundamental understanding of game by creating ridiculous threads like this.
As I said champ, you are a mess.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Yes. You'd be surprised.Sure. You meet a gorgeous woman on a Saturday, she tells you that you are handsome and she is single, and she agrees to meet 6 days later for dinner, and it's all just for a free meal.
Fact: If paying $140 for drinks and appetizers is a factor, you are too broke to date hot women.Yep I live in fear of the fries. We all do Neil. U got us.
One of the weakest possible online forum arguments is feigning disbelief. None of us verifies anything ever, so the feigning disbelief card is simply a disinformation strategy, holding select members to a higher standard or (pretending to be) disqualifying them.Yes. You'd be surprised.
Sorry thought this thread was about getting girls (you haven't already banged) to hangout with you. The whole point of hanging out with a girl or going on a date or whatever, as far as I know--and maybe I'm just one of those weird guys who doesn't get any particular enjoyment from hanging out with women who haven't already invested in me--is to get her back to the house."I have a boyfriend"?
"I didn't save your number"?
This is supposed to be good?
Where is the "That was the best orgasm I ever had"?
PM'ed you four pics, me included. That's my ex of a five-year relation. Bam! No comparison between your girls and her. Want other girls? Just ask.1) You can't deny the official 20 vote consensus of the women I had rated. Two members wrote to me and had their photos rated 98/99. The ratings I referred to are the standard. PM me some photos of the "100 women you slept with" and I'll have them rated. Hint: they are not rated 99/100.
2) "Editing of their ages"? How was my fixing a typo a factor? I can tell you their exact birthdays off the top of my head. You're full of sh!t, and probably a non-white woman on welfare.
3) Up front resources? If you call buying dinner up front resources, you need to get off welfare dude. I earn more than 99.9% of men and I don't worry about appetizers.
4) Buying them dinner is pandering? You wish. Get a job, you f*cking bum. A successful seducer pays for the date. Real men pay their own bills. A real man can support 20 women, letalone buy one dinner once a week.
5) I lack fundamentals to show how I got a date with a HB8 this week? You wish. I provided a working example of a non-stripper HB8 6 years my junior. What is ridiculous is how you don't recognize a successful seduction. Maybe you never experienced one. I will pray for you.
Go back to your welfare moms.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
And your entire argument is based on the fact that you think you're the only one who earns 2k or more a day.Fact: If paying $140 for drinks and appetizers is a factor, you are too broke to date hot women.
If you earn more money in that time frame (I earn $250 an hour) you won't worry about it. Earn more.
One of the weakest possible online forum arguments is feigning disbelief. None of us verifies anything ever, so the feigning disbelief card is simply a disinformation strategy, holding select members to a higher standard or (pretending to be) disqualifying them.
I wish more women would put out for free meals then. It's just sad that you guys care so much about a few $20's. How much do you think Donald Trump spent on his first date with Melania?
Maybe a new Broke Don Juan forum?
Some of you do? Oh, I'll bet you do! Exactly 1 in 1000 Americans do.And your entire argument is based on the fact that you think you're the only one who earns 2k or more a day.
HINT: some of us do. We just choose not to brag about it on an internet forum and choose to get her wet without laying money on a fancy dinner.
We are talking about the official rating of my girl according to a third party. You don't get to supersede a professional 20 vote consensus. Moron.PM'ed you four pics, me included. That's my ex of a five-year relation. Bam! No comparison between your girls and her. Want other girls? Just ask.
1) Your girls are not nearly as attractive. Sorry.
2) BS, you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
3) You don't earn more than me. That I can assure you. What was your income last year?
4) I earn more than you do and still don't take them to dinner for the first three dates.
Putting it on a credit card doesn't count. Nobody who earns $2000 per day worries about $40. Get a job.Hmm wasted my subtlety there. We can all afford to buy them dinner Neil. There s just other ways to skin the puss and we choose not to.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
From 300k last year to $750k this year? You're full of horseshvt. Want to make a such a declaration; show me your trailing 12.My income the past year is an average of $500,000 ($6600 per week after taxes). But I just got a raise so now I make $750,000 ($10,000 per week after taxes). You guys can't declare that average. I'm in the point one percentile of income. If you earn more (there is a 1 in 1000 chance), congratulations. It doesn't make me average. It makes you way above average.
I show you a pic of her in bed with me, along with three full body's and that's not enough. LOL. Tell you what. Show me just one pic of a 9 girl in bed with you. Just one, perv, and I'll send you a few more face shots.bigneil said:Your 4 pictures are not acceptable. I'd love to publish them here if you don't believe me. A photo of one eyeball in bed does not count. A shameless bathroom Millennial selfie of her (featuring the camera in the photo) from across a 20 foot room does not count. I need a profile picture of her, showing her eye color, both eyeballs, and her whole face. A passport photo. Try again.
Wow, are you really denying my income? That proves I make more.From 300k last year to $750k this year? You're full of horseshvt. Want to make a such a declaration; show me your trailing 12.
I show you a pic of her in bed with me, along with three full body's and that's not enough. LOL. Tell you what. Show me just one pic of a 9 girl in bed with you. Just one, perv, and I'll send you a few more face shots.
Please elaborate on this point.Besides, how the woman reacts to being treated will instantly tell you a lot about her.
F*ck you and your selfies that you downloaded off her FB.Yes, I'm calling you out on your income. Prove your claim.
I didn't request for a picture of the girl in the bed. Any photographer can do that. I asked for a picture of you and her in the bed, as what I PM'ed you.
I'm waiting champ ...
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.