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While it's not like I have women knocking on my door constantly, I've dated a decent bit. I known a good amount of women as well. I used to see dating as this very exciting thing. You could meet so many different women. A cool chick. A southern chick. A "spicy" chick and etc.

But after my last to encounters in the dating field I have begun to question the entire process and what the point of it even is.

Like I said I saw dating as something very exciting. But slowly it's become something that isn't even fun. I've come to realize that dating is more trouble than it's worth.

My issues with dating start with just how superficial it is. I've had women go out with my just because I am black, just because we were from the same state, just because I like anime, just because I am a writer, just because I am cute and etc. At first I saw this as a compliment. But I've come to realize that women go out with guys for bull**** reasons. I'm a pretty good looking guy, but I'm not Adnois. So say if I am a better match for a woman, but some Brad Pitt looking mother ****er is right next to me, who will get the first chance?

Women go by these bull**** rules too. Like if you follow up too quickly or too late, you're done. If you say one wrong thing, you could be done. You can't even get to the point with a woman to know if something meaningful will happen because most won't give you that chance.

So what will I do? I've decided to put even more focus on my goals in life. I already have dedicated a lot of time and I am seeing more results. But I am going to double down even more if that's possible.

I am going to an acting master class taught my an actor who's taught some very esteemed actors. I am going to continue to audition for roles. I am going to work on my feature film that I wrote and plan on directing and starring in. I am going to finish up a few graphic novels and ship them out to publishers (I am already a published author). I am going to work on my pitch for an animated series (got a big pitch coming soon).

I'm also going to do things that I enjoy. I plan on eventually getting back into racing go kart and open wheel dirt cars. I want to get back into Kung Fu. And I'll hang around with my roommate and watch anime.

Point is that I am just going to do what I want to do. I have no intention of getting married. I would like kids. But if it doesn't happen then I'm okay with that. I do enjoy sex. But I'm okay to go without for a while.

I don't plan on pursuing dating. I'm just so disenchanted with the whole process. I'm happy for couples or guys who enjoy dating. But I suppose it's just not me.

I haven't felt this free in a long time.
 
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While it's not like I have women knocking on my door constantly, I've dated a decent bit. I known a good amount of women as well. I used to see dating as this very exciting thing. You could meet so many different women. A cool chick. A southern chick. A "spicy" chick and etc.

But after my last to encounters in the dating field I have begun the entire process and what the point of it even is.

Like I said I saw dating as something very exciting. But slowly it's become something that isn't even fun. I've come to realize that dating is more trouble than it's worth.

My issues with dating start with just how superficial it is. I've had women go out with my just because I am black, just because we were from the same state, just because I like anime, just because I am a writer, just because I am cute and etc. At first I saw this as a compliment. But I've come to realize that women go out with guys for bull**** reasons. I'm a pretty good looking guy, but I'm not Adnois. So say if I am a better match for a woman, but some Brad Pitt looking mother ****er is right next to me, who will get the first chance?

Women go by these bull**** rules too. Like if you follow up too quickly or too late, you're done. If you say one wrong thing, you could be done. You can't even get to the point with a woman to know if something meaningful will happen because most won't give you that chance.

So what will I do? I've decided to put even more focus on my goals in life. I already have dedicated a lot of time and I am seeing more results. But I am going to double down even more if that's possible.

I am going to an acting master class taught my an actor who's taught some very esteemed actors. I am going to continue to audition for roles. I am going to work on my feature film that I wrote and plan on directing and starring in. I am going to finish up a few graphic novels and ship them out to publishers (I am already a published author). I am going to work on my pitch for an animated series (got a big pitch coming soon).

I'm also going to do things that I enjoy. I plan on eventually getting back into racing go kart and open wheel dirt cars. I want to get back into Kung Fu. And I'll hang around with my roommate and watch anime.

Point is that I am just going to do what I want to do. I have no intention of getting married. I would like kids. But if it doesn't happen then I'm okay with that. I do enjoy sex. But I'm okay to go without for a while.

I don't plan on pursuing dating. I'm just so disenchanted with the whole process. I'm happy for couples or guys who enjoy dating. But I suppose it's just not me.

I haven't felt this free in a long time.
Maybe pay for a high end escort to get your rocks off in the mean time?

I agree. Dating is a lost cause in the west anyway. There is some serious debate about whether women overseas less influenced by feminism can be different, or has social media/technology gotten to all of them?

I was impressed with what I saw with a month in Europe going on dates with 3 foreign girls, but it could have been wishful thinking/confirmation bias. Those are the last 3 girls I went on dates with, actually..
 

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That's because "dating" is for chumps.

I've said this before: The more a man feels the need to follow society's customs, women's rules and anything "conventional" the less attractive he is.

Attractive men do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them. Men who do "traditional dating" have no game and believe they have to follow society's outdated customs to get laid and make women like them. They have to call her at the right time and spend money on her, etc.

Dating rules are just another way women exploit weak minded betas. The measure of how big a faggot a man is can be observed by how much he follows other people's "rules".

Your only job as a man is to get laid. There are many ways to get laid that don't involve following any retarded traditions. Women love unconventional men because we are refreshing and exciting.

So keep doing what you love. But don't think you can't still get laid in the process.
 
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That's because "dating" is for chumps.

I've said this before: The more a man feels the need to follow society's customs, women's rules and anything "conventional" the less attractive he is.

Attractive men do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them. Men who do "traditional dating" have no game and believe they have to follow society's outdated customs to get laid and make women like them. They have to call her at the right time and spend money on her, etc.

Dating rules are just another way women exploit weak minded betas. The measure of how big a faggot a man is can be observed by how much he follows other people's "rules".

Your only job as a man is to get laid. There are many ways to get laid that don't involve following any retarded traditions. Women love unconventional men because we are refreshing and exciting.

So keep doing what you love. But don't think you can't still get laid in the process.
So if you chose to date girls you are a chump...REALLY?...What if it is on your terms...What if its what you want and has nothing to do with following societal norms!?!? It takes a lot more skill to maintain a relationship than it does to keep changing girls out when they quit working for you. I have no doubt you have the plate spinning world mastered.

And attractive men can do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them?... Newsflash, those plates don't love you. And the reason they leave is because you were attempting to do whatever the f*ck you wanted and they got tired of putting up with it. If women really loved unconventional men as much as you think, those women would stick around for more than a few months.

Neither you nor Deesade are fooling me. You guys and those like you live in fear. Its why you avoid attachment and relationships with any depth when it comes to the opposite sechs. You've had so much low quality that it has tainted your view of the world. You are afraid of what a woman can do to you and that tells me your internal frame is weak. Just look at what you guys talk about all the time. You are afraid of having to call/text her at the right time, spend money on her, etc. <--Why be with a girl like that? Those are low interest/low quality women and women that are in it for the wrong reasons.

I've lived the plate spinning world. I know how much time it takes to keep the rotation going. Its really tough to accomplish anything else in life other than women when you are constantly on the hunt. I also know how superficial it is. And high quality women will never tolerate plate status for very long!

If plates are all you desire then great I have no problem with that, but don't call people chumps because they want something more. The guy that gets what he wants out of life isn't exactly a chump. He is living life on his terms just like you preach all the time.

On the Power to Say NO thread you even said "All that matters is a woman respects you, f*cks you and gives you the type of relationship you want." That's all I'm saying here. Dating & LTR's don't make you a chump. In fact, truth be known it takes far greater skills to be successful at that.
 
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While it's not like I have women knocking on my door constantly, I've dated a decent bit. I known a good amount of women as well. I used to see dating as this very exciting thing. You could meet so many different women. A cool chick. A southern chick. A "spicy" chick and etc.

But after my last to encounters in the dating field I have begun to question the entire process and what the point of it even is.

Like I said I saw dating as something very exciting. But slowly it's become something that isn't even fun. I've come to realize that dating is more trouble than it's worth.

My issues with dating start with just how superficial it is. I've had women go out with my just because I am black, just because we were from the same state, just because I like anime, just because I am a writer, just because I am cute and etc. At first I saw this as a compliment. But I've come to realize that women go out with guys for bull**** reasons. I'm a pretty good looking guy, but I'm not Adnois. So say if I am a better match for a woman, but some Brad Pitt looking mother ****er is right next to me, who will get the first chance?

Women go by these bull**** rules too. Like if you follow up too quickly or too late, you're done. If you say one wrong thing, you could be done. You can't even get to the point with a woman to know if something meaningful will happen because most won't give you that chance.

So what will I do? I've decided to put even more focus on my goals in life. I already have dedicated a lot of time and I am seeing more results. But I am going to double down even more if that's possible.

I am going to an acting master class taught my an actor who's taught some very esteemed actors. I am going to continue to audition for roles. I am going to work on my feature film that I wrote and plan on directing and starring in. I am going to finish up a few graphic novels and ship them out to publishers (I am already a published author). I am going to work on my pitch for an animated series (got a big pitch coming soon).

I'm also going to do things that I enjoy. I plan on eventually getting back into racing go kart and open wheel dirt cars. I want to get back into Kung Fu. And I'll hang around with my roommate and watch anime.

Point is that I am just going to do what I want to do. I have no intention of getting married. I would like kids. But if it doesn't happen then I'm okay with that. I do enjoy sex. But I'm okay to go without for a while.

I don't plan on pursuing dating. I'm just so disenchanted with the whole process. I'm happy for couples or guys who enjoy dating. But I suppose it's just not me.

I haven't felt this free in a long time.
Translation: the girls I am dating aren't giving me what I want and are asking too much in return so I'm going to put down the entire process to get in front of the eight ball and make myself feel and look good.

Come on bro, you can do all that and still date, get married and have kids. Just because the girls you have gone out with are picky (maybe you are very picky too) doesn't mean it won't work with every other girl.

Lots and lots of men who have discovered medical cures and won Nobel Peace Prizes have dated the same women we often deem are "too much." :rolleyes:
 

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I've been thinking about this...

Date yourself = a non-date

your rules, your terms, your steak and potatos.

Make plans (departure time, etc.), then ask her to join you. Order enough food for two, and have her help you eat it.

Tell her to be waiting outside when you pick her up.

If she no shows, you go eat anyway, or call another plate. No big deal.

And yes, King of poons is right... regular dating is for chumps... More accurately, regular dating is giving your power away. Not good!
 

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So if you chose to date girls you are a chump...REALLY?...What if it is on your terms...What if its what you want and has nothing to do with following societal norms!?!? It takes a lot more skill to maintain a relationship than it does to keep changing girls out when they quit working for you. I have no doubt you have the plate spinning world mastered.
Insecure much?

All it takes is being called a "chump" for you to have a total meltdown? I find that laughable. Anyway.. on to your post...

Of course it takes more "skill" to maintain a relationship than to keep changing girls. That's the whole point. I'm all about maximum SEX with minimum work genius. You want to work harder than you have to? Go for it.

And attractive men can do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them?... Newsflash, those plates don't love you. And the reason they leave is because you were attempting to do whatever the f*ck you wanted and they got tired of putting up with it. If women really loved unconventional men as much as you think, those women would stick around for more than a few months.
You are correct. This goes back to "alpha f*cks beta bucks" theory.

Co-dependent betas need female "love". Alpha's love themselves and that's enough. I don't care WHY a woman is into me. I just care that I get what I want. Right now.. I have no interest in slavish devotion to ONE woman. So I act like it.

Neither you nor Deesade are fooling me. You guys and those like you live in fear. Its why you avoid attachment and relationships with any depth when it comes to the opposite sechs. You've had so much low quality that it has tainted your view of the world. You are afraid of what a woman can do to you and that tells me your internal frame is weak. Just look at what you guys talk about all the time. You are afraid of having to call/text her at the right time, spend money on her, etc. <--Why be with a girl like that? Those are low interest/low quality women and women that are in it for the wrong reasons.
Why should we live on a woman's terms? For what purpose?

I've lived the plate spinning world. I know how much time it takes to keep the rotation going. Its really tough to accomplish anything else in life other than women when you are constantly on the hunt. I also know how superficial it is. And high quality women will never tolerate plate status for very long!

If plates are all you desire then great I have no problem with that, but don't call people chumps because they want something more. The guy that gets what he wants out of life isn't exactly a chump. He is living life on his terms just like you preach all the time.

On the Power to Say NO thread you even said "All that matters is a woman respects you, f*cks you and gives you the type of relationship you want." That's all I'm saying here. Dating & LTR's don't make you a chump. In fact, truth be known it takes far greater skills to be successful at that.
I never said LTR's or "wanting something more" makes you a chump. I said following other people's rules out of insecurity makes you a chump. Traditional dating protocal is a set of rules made by OTHERS not you. Traditional dating is dumb IMO. I have a right to that opinion.
 

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IIRC @TheFixer14 is in Los Angeles. That dating scene must be difficult. When I was living in Vegas, the Vegas dating scene was ALL about 'who do you know and how can I socially piggy back off of you?'. If you didnt know anyone, you were nothing. It was VERY superficial.

I would imagine that LA is much worse. (I could be off base but) Taking his OP from this frame of reference, I am not surprised he feels this way.
 
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It's LA... dreams are more important than love.

La La Land with Ryan Gosling is a great movie about that... and mature dating.

You know the best way to get a life partner? I heard it's about not looking but being found... however, like in everything... you have to be ready to pick the occasion.

So keep pushing for your dreams, built your network, work your passion, be open to meeting people.
 

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It's LA... dreams are more important than love.

La La Land with Ryan Gosling is a great movie about that... and mature dating.

You know the best way to get a life partner? I heard it's about not looking but being found... however, like in everything... you have to be ready to pick the occasion.

So keep pushing for your dreams, built your network, work your passion, be open to meeting people.
Agree with this! If you are open to meeting people, get out often, and are a great person. Good women are going to come into your life naturally. You won't really have to work at it.
 

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So if you chose to date girls you are a chump...REALLY?...What if it is on your terms...What if its what you want and has nothing to do with following societal norms!?!? It takes a lot more skill to maintain a relationship than it does to keep changing girls out when they quit working for you. I have no doubt you have the plate spinning world mastered.

And attractive men can do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them?... Newsflash, those plates don't love you. And the reason they leave is because you were attempting to do whatever the f*ck you wanted and they got tired of putting up with it. If women really loved unconventional men as much as you think, those women would stick around for more than a few months.

Neither you nor Deesade are fooling me. You guys and those like you live in fear. Its why you avoid attachment and relationships with any depth when it comes to the opposite sechs. You've had so much low quality that it has tainted your view of the world. You are afraid of what a woman can do to you and that tells me your internal frame is weak. Just look at what you guys talk about all the time. You are afraid of having to call/text her at the right time, spend money on her, etc. <--Why be with a girl like that? Those are low interest/low quality women and women that are in it for the wrong reasons.

I've lived the plate spinning world. I know how much time it takes to keep the rotation going. Its really tough to accomplish anything else in life other than women when you are constantly on the hunt. I also know how superficial it is. And high quality women will never tolerate plate status for very long!

If plates are all you desire then great I have no problem with that, but don't call people chumps because they want something more. The guy that gets what he wants out of life isn't exactly a chump. He is living life on his terms just like you preach all the time.

On the Power to Say NO thread you even said "All that matters is a woman respects you, f*cks you and gives you the type of relationship you want." That's all I'm saying here. Dating & LTR's don't make you a chump. In fact, truth be known it takes far greater skills to be successful at that.
I read this post and my first thoughts were that the guy articulated his opinion very well, an opinion that he also has the right to.

Nowhere did I see a "meltdown" or "insecurity"....

The first thing I thought of when I saw another poster accuse the guy of having a meltdown was the common shaming tactic THE CHARGE OF IRASCIBILITY.........

Some would see it as a shaming tactic and then I guess others would see it as PURE PROJECTION

I imagine others would see it as a mixture of both "How dare you.......!!!!!!!!"

Anyway, just an observation and an opinion....I think I have the right...

WAKE UP MEN!!

Indeed.......
 

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I read this post and my first thoughts were that the guy articulated his opinion very well, an opinion that he also has the right to.

Nowhere did I see a "meltdown" or "insecurity"....

The first thing I thought of when I saw another poster accuse the guy of having a meltdown was the common shaming tactic THE CHARGE OF IRASCIBILITY.........

Some would see it as a shaming tactic and then I guess others would see it as PURE PROJECTION

I imagine others would see it as a mixture of both "How dare you.......!!!!!!!!"

Anyway, just an observation and an opinion....I think I have the right...

WAKE UP MEN!!

Indeed.......
The first two lines of his post where an obvious emotional meltdown.

Calling a spade a spade is not a "shaming tactic". Shaming tactics come from a victim mindset.. such as "How dare you! You are such a terrible person!"

Here are some examples:

Real Shaming tactic: "You probably can't get laid. That's why you call women b!tches"

Not a Shaming tactic: "You are whining like a b!tch and you sound dumb. Your opinion is stupid."

Learn the difference between judging and shaming. I'll admit to judging.
 

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Maybe pay for a high end escort to get your rocks off in the mean time?

I agree. Dating is a lost cause in the west anyway. There is some serious debate about whether women overseas less influenced by feminism can be different, or has social media/technology gotten to all of them?

I was impressed with what I saw with a month in Europe going on dates with 3 foreign girls, but it could have been wishful thinking/confirmation bias. Those are the last 3 girls I went on dates with, actually..
I'd do that in Vegas. But probably not a lot.

That's because "dating" is for chumps.

I've said this before: The more a man feels the need to follow society's customs, women's rules and anything "conventional" the less attractive he is.

Attractive men do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them. Men who do "traditional dating" have no game and believe they have to follow society's outdated customs to get laid and make women like them. They have to call her at the right time and spend money on her, etc.

Dating rules are just another way women exploit weak minded betas. The measure of how big a faggot a man is can be observed by how much he follows other people's "rules".

Your only job as a man is to get laid. There are many ways to get laid that don't involve following any retarded traditions. Women love unconventional men because we are refreshing and exciting.

So keep doing what you love. But don't think you can't still get laid in the process.
This is pretty much what I've discovered. Dating is really for women.

I stopped going for one night stands in clubs and bars because I thought that casual dating would be the best. But it's just as bad as that. In both situations I am still alone and not getting what is that I desire.

I am learning more and more about what I don't want. I don't want one night stands anymore. I don't want to date anymore. I don't want an exclusive relationship. I also might be screwed haha. Now I need to figure out a way to get laid without having to go to a bar or club or on a date.

I guess that will take a frame change.

Translation: the girls I am dating aren't giving me what I want and are asking too much in return so I'm going to put down the entire process to get in front of the eight ball and make myself feel and look good.

Come on bro, you can do all that and still date, get married and have kids. Just because the girls you have gone out with are picky (maybe you are very picky too) doesn't mean it won't work with every other girl.

Lots and lots of men who have discovered medical cures and won Nobel Peace Prizes have dated the same women we often deem are "too much." :rolleyes:
I'm not so sure. While I'm still pretty young, it hasn't really happen yet. So I don't see why it will ever happen. But that in it of itself may be a limiting belief.

In a perfect world I'd live with my girlfriend and have a few kids in my 30s. Bring in a woman into the relationship here and there to spice things up. And that may happen. But what's out there right now is awful.

I've been thinking about this...

Date yourself = a non-date

your rules, your terms, your steak and potatos.

Make plans (departure time, etc.), then ask her to join you. Order enough food for two, and have her help you eat it.

Tell her to be waiting outside when you pick her up.

If she no shows, you go eat anyway, or call another plate. No big deal.

And yes, King of poons is right... regular dating is for chumps... More accurately, regular dating is giving your power away. Not good!
This is good stuff. That and have a back up plan in case she flakes. Like maybe there is something else in the area that you could do.

IIRC @TheFixer14 is in Los Angeles. That dating scene must be difficult. When I was living in Vegas, the Vegas dating scene was ALL about 'who do you know and how can I socially piggy back off of you?'. If you didnt know anyone, you were nothing. It was VERY superficial.

I would imagine that LA is much worse. (I could be off base but) Taking his OP from this frame of reference, I am not surprised he feels this way.
Yeah, I'm in L.A. The dating scene out here is awful. I was expecting it to be like the O.C when I first moved out here. Thought that I would have my Summer Roberts and all. Nope. Most people here don't care about you or your personality.

It's LA... dreams are more important than love.

La La Land with Ryan Gosling is a great movie about that... and mature dating.

You know the best way to get a life partner? I heard it's about not looking but being found... however, like in everything... you have to be ready to pick the occasion.

So keep pushing for your dreams, built your network, work your passion, be open to meeting people.
This is very true. My dream is way bigger than finding love.

It's funny that you mentioned La La Land. One of the girls that I dated recently was talking about that movie and why she doesn't get that people think they can't go into relationships and go for their goals. I didn't get that she was basically indicating that she may want a relationship and I brought up the writer/director's first film, Whiplash (also a brilliant film) and how the lead character dumps his girlfriend. That's what I am talking about if you say one wrong thing it may cost you.

They say that whenever you truly believe that you won't find someone that is the time that someone enters your life. I'm not sure how much I believe in that romantic talk anyway. But I do believe in the law of attraction and letting go and allowing does yield results.
 

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They say that whenever you truly believe that you won't find someone that is the time that someone enters your life. I'm not sure how much I believe in that romantic talk anyway. But I do believe in the law of attraction and letting go and allowing does yield results.
I tend to agree with this. I went through self-imposed monk mode after going into marital separation (and ultimately a divorce this year) last Fall.

Women could tell I was emotionally torn and our mutual friends avoided me like the plague. I was a wreck. Far from being physically or emotionally available to date.

I later took up a ton of hobbies and rediscovered myself. I got fit, finally grew facial hair (I'm a late bloomer of sorts) and worked on talking to everyone at events multiple times a week. After a while I acquired enough social proof and the girls started to approach me for the first time.

This Monday I went out on a date with a girl that I thought was out of my league and used me to pivot to someone else at a party a few months back. After the date she immediately wanted to hang out again this week. I told her I was busy and had plans, but that I would keep her in the loop if time opens up. If I put the me from last Fall in those shoes, I would have been salivating and wouldn't even dream of risking brushing her off.

Last night I went out with a different girl. We did a cooking class and noticed how she touched me a lot. I cracked jokes and had fun. I even smacked her on the butt with flour so she would have marks on her dark jeans when leaving. My favorite part was when she put her hands over mine completely to press down hard on the dough to split it into four.

Pardon the rambling a bit, but I think dating to me right now is a take or leave it attitude. I won't bend over backwards for a girl anymore. I'm a what you see, is what you get. If a plate and I have fun, cool; we'll continue chilling when I have time. If it's forced chemistry, I won't hesitate to drop the plate. I hope to continue putting my hobbies, career, adventures first, dating last. If I put dating first, women will pick up on that, and immediately lose interest.

You sound like you're getting your act together, TheFixer14 with all those career/job pursuits you mentioned. With that creativity, someone will bite and will be eager to work with you. Keep it up, man! Women love to chase a guy who's got his act (or perceived act) together.
 

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Why not be ina relationship and cheat at the same time? Its like you have dinner ready at home,but you can always have some desert
 

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The first two lines of his post where an obvious emotional meltdown.

Calling a spade a spade is not a "shaming tactic". Shaming tactics come from a victim mindset.. such as "How dare you! You are such a terrible person!"

Here are some examples:

Real Shaming tactic: "You probably can't get laid. That's why you call women b!tches"

Not a Shaming tactic: "You are whining like a b!tch and you sound dumb. Your opinion is stupid."

Learn the difference between judging and shaming. I'll admit to judging.
Folks, for the sake of clarity I'll respond to this.

The charge of irascibility: this is such a common shaming/ controlling tactic used by women when the man is being assertive and the woman feels like she's losing control of the frame or and the issue or debate at hand.

She will "mind read" the man and accuse him of being angry for example.....now this tactic ONLY WORKS IF THE MAN TAKES THE BAIT. For example he might go "what's this dumbazz saying? I'm not fvcking angry!" And in that moment he does actually get irritated. And she goes "aha see?" Then the man does get angry as he realises he fell into her trap...

The result? The debate or issue at hand becomes forgotten and now the issue is the man getting angry and reactive. If there is anyone else around they will now side with the woman and she can now bask in been seen as the injured Party.

This poster uses this tactic in so many of his threads. Take note. And take not of how often the women around you will use it.

I see the poster has implied something to the effect of:
"If a certain woman agrees with you, then you must be a faggot"

Folks do you think that statement comes from the mind of:
1. A rational , mature, secure intelligent man
Or
2. A bitter, snipey, immature, emotional child.

The answer is clear as day
 

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So if you chose to date girls you are a chump...REALLY?...
Insecure much?

All it takes is being called a "chump" for you to have a total meltdown?
Hey Howie.....hey buddy ;). So ummmm, did I or did I not tell you about 90 days ago, that the MOMENT you disagree with Poon King/PlayHerMan that he starts to call you all sorts of bullshyt names that equate to you all of a sudden being a beta fag.got, a white knight, or a idiot/loser?

Did I, or did I not tell you this lol?

Are you seeing what I've been saying all of this time that this guy is a fraud?

That's because "dating" is for chumps.
Only beta fag.gots " go on dates" :rofl:

Attractive men do whatever the f*ck they want and women still love them.
Lol, who the fvck is this guy, Stone Cold Steve Austin in shyt?? :rofl:

Your only job as a man is to get laid.
Lol, you dumb fvck-tard. At some point sex becomes over-rated and once you have received so MUCH of it (like Tenacity has), you start to require more substance from the girl than just how much you can get your nuts/rocks off. This is how I know you don't get laid Poon King, because any guy who actually GETS a.ss like that, will know that after awhile the shyt gets old. You start to require more substance, intelligence, etc., from a woman.....not just how hot she is and how much you can nut.

You're a fraud. Post a god damn pic of you and a plate.............ANY plate......that you've had from 2016. I won't hold my breath because I know you've had no plates.
 

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Lol, you dumb fvck-tard. At some point sex becomes over-rated and once you have received so MUCH of it (like Tenacity has), you start to require more substance from the girl than just how much you can get your nuts/rocks off. This is how I know you don't get laid Poon King, because any guy who actually GETS a.ss like that, will know that after awhile the shyt gets old. You start to require more substance, intelligence, etc., from a woman.....not just how hot she is and how much you can nut.

You're a fraud. Post a god damn pic of you and a plate.............ANY plate......that you've had from 2016. I won't hold my breath because I know you've had no plates.
Hmmm.. You provide no substance in the conversation but I admire the envy you have for this man. You're using your own experience as a way to justify that all men will act the same way you did, and that's just false. No man will get tired of sex if all he seeks for is sex from a women while he pursues his own goals and adventures. Men aren't all built the same and not all of them think the same. Many men could be addicted to sex so it may never get old to them. Other men don't need substance, intelligence ect from a women if they are already knowledgeable in their own way. From your posts I can sense the insecurity in you. Don't put in to much investment into a women.
 

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I went through this about 2 - 3 years ago

I took a year completely out from chicks like I don’t think I even bothered with one woman in this period

Where it was refreshing and taught me a lot about self control and women aren’t the be all and end all of the world

By the end I was starting to miss them , just doing gay sh1t like holding hands walking around town shopping and stuff , stuff I never thought I would miss

Sex is obviously the most difficult thing for a guy to forfeit …..being inside a woman is at the end of a day the ultimate thing that makes you a man

Id say its good to have a break from time to time women can be frustrating but there are some amazing ones on the planet ,

please just make sure you don’t fall too deep into the abyss of celibacy
 

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Hmmm.. You provide no substance in the conversation but I admire the envy you have for this man. You're using your own experience as a way to justify that all men will act the same way you did, and that's just false. No man will get tired of sex if all he seeks for is sex from a women while he pursues his own goals and adventures. Men aren't all built the same and not all of them think the same. Many men could be addicted to sex so it may never get old to them. Other men don't need substance, intelligence ect from a women if they are already knowledgeable in their own way. From your posts I can sense the insecurity in you. Don't put in to much investment into a women.
:rofl: @ "my insecurity".

I get it, as a "man" I should never:

- Trust a woman
- Let my guard down around a woman
- Put too much investment into a woman
- Open up around a woman
- Go on dates
- Get into an LTR

I get it, as a "man", I should only:

- Spin plates
- Spin more plates
- Spin some additional plates
- And finally, spin more plates

Got it :up:
 
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