THE "she gets only two chances rule" RULE.

[narcissist]

Heres the situation that I very frequently see on here:

Dude asks a girl out on a date for two or three days later. Girl accepts. Guy is happy, and ecstatic because he thinks he's getting some that sweet delicious V. Then on the day of the date the girl has to cancel for any number of various reasons. The guy immediately tries to analyze her reasons for cancelling. Starts wondering why she did or didn't counteroffer. Starts wondering whether her interest is waning. Starts wondering if she had any interest to begin with. Reasonably, the guy comes to SoSuave for answers. He asks us: Should I next her? Is she interested? What am I to do? Should I wait for her to message me? But she said "_______" this must mean she's still interested!

Here is Narcissist's rule for dealing with these very frequent situations. And yes, they will happen VERY often when you game women.

The "she's gets ONLY two chances" rule.

Here is how this works.

First and foremost: Why the absolute fvck are we analyzing their behaviours. Who cares. We got other important sh1t to do with our lives. We don't have time to analyze the minutiae of their texts to determine interest. Stop with this nonsense. What you need is a rule that you can apply regardless of their behaviours. Now yes, I understand that there is nuance to each case. I will get to exceptions after the rule.

The rule: You ask a girl out. This is her first chance. She accepts. Great! The day of the date comes and she cancels. She might or might not give you a reason... Who cares! She might or might not say she is sorry... Who gives a fvck! She has now lost her first chance. She only gets one more. But this second chance is much less invested. You ghost her for at least a week. Then you ask her out one more time. No fvcking bullsh1t talking over texting and sending her a bunch of sh1t.. You just send her one text and ask her out again. Her answer will determine whether she ever hears from you again, only the second time will determine whether she is interested or not. There is two options: If she says yes? great! wait for the day of the date, and if she actually shows up? great! if she cancels again? Never talk to her again, delete her from everything. Don't even reply to her cancelation. She is a fvcking waste of your time. If she says No to the date, well, you obviously know what to do.

This is the fvcking rule. It works because some girls genuinely want to go on a date but have to cancel, and some girls just want the attention. You will never be able to analyze it after one cancellation, and you could easily misjudge and next girls that are actualyl down to fvck. But I say two cancellations is fvcking perfect for determining whether a girl is wasting my time. So, no more analyzing.

The only exception to this rule is if the girl begs you after the second cancellation. And you tell her that she better deliver a shawarma and a blowj0b to your front door, that is the only way you will see her, otherwise she can get fvcking lost. This is the only exception.

Happy dating my fellow DJs.

With grace and virtue,
Narcissist

 

[BreezyB84]

Heres the situation that I very frequently see on here:

Dude asks a girl out on a date for two or three days later. Girl accepts. Guy is happy, and ecstatic because he thinks he's getting some that sweet delicious V. Then on the day of the date the girl has to cancel for any number of various reasons. The guy immediately tries to analyze her reasons for cancelling. Starts wondering why she did or didn't counteroffer. Starts wondering whether her interest is waning. Starts wondering if she had any interest to begin with. Reasonably, the guy comes to SoSuave for answers. He asks us: Should I next her? Is she interested? What am I to do? Should I wait for her to message me? But she said "_______" this must mean she's still interested!

Here is Narcissist's rule for dealing with these very frequent situations. And yes, they will happen VERY often when you game women.

The "she's gets ONLY two chances" rule.

Here is how this works.

First and foremost: Why the absolute fvck are we analyzing their behaviours. Who cares. We got other important sh1t to do with our lives. We don't have time to analyze the minutiae of their texts to determine interest. Stop with this nonsense. What you need is a rule that you can apply regardless of their behaviours. Now yes, I understand that there is nuance to each case. I will get to exceptions after the rule.

The rule: You ask a girl out. This is her first chance. She accepts. Great! The day of the date comes and she cancels. She might or might not give you a reason... Who cares! She might or might not say she is sorry... Who gives a fvck! She has now lost her first chance. She only gets one more. But this second chance is much less invested. You ghost her for at least a week. Then you ask her out one more time. No fvcking bullsh1t talking over texting and sending her a bunch of sh1t.. You just send her one text and ask her out again. Her answer will determine whether she ever hears from you again, only the second time will determine whether she is interested or not. There is two options: If she says yes? great! wait for the day of the date, and if she actually shows up? great! if she cancels again? Never talk to her again, delete her from everything. Don't even reply to her cancelation. She is a fvcking waste of your time. If she says No to the date, well, you obviously know what to do.

This is the fvcking rule. It works because some girls genuinely want to go on a date but have to cancel, and some girls just want the attention. You will never be able to analyze it after one cancellation, and you could easily misjudge and next girls that are actualyl down to fvck. But I say two cancellations is fvcking perfect for determining whether a girl is wasting my time. So, no more analyzing.

The only exception to this rule is if the girl begs you after the second cancellation. And you tell her that she better deliver a shawarma and a blowj0b to your front door, that is the only way you will see her, otherwise she can get fvcking lost. This is the only exception.

Happy dating my fellow DJs.

With grace and virtue,
Narcissist

I didn't really have a guideline. I do now.thank you for this.

 

[Roober]

We are all busy and I could see how women could flake. I would probably do two chances as well...

 

[Who Dares Win]

I remember we were talking about 3 strikes rule back in 2012 but times changed so the 2 strikes rule fits much more, some guys even have a 1 strike rule but in my opinion only those living in a very rich environment with an overwhelming number of opportunities should stick to it.

Personally I have a very low investment policy in terms of both times and commitment, I take for granted that there willbe some sh1t coming from moment 1 therefore no dating involved.

Just inviting girls to reach me where I am already or where I will be anyway with no time schedule, something like "I'll be in center tonight after 10 write me if you're around and wanna meet".

Something like "lets meet at X at 10.00 I'll reserve for two" is asking for troubles nowadays.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I remember we were talking about 3 strikes rule back in 2012 but times changed so the 2 strikes rule fits much more, some guys even have a 1 strike rule but in my opinion only those living in a very rich environment with an overwhelming number of opportunities should stick to it.

Personally I have a very low investment policy in terms of both times and commitment, I take for granted that there willbe some sh1t coming from moment 1 therefore no dating involved.

Just inviting girls to reach me where I am already or where I will be anyway with no time schedule, something like "I'll be in center tonight after 10 write me if you're around and wanna meet".

Something like "lets meet at X at 10.00 I'll reserve for two" is asking for troubles nowadays.

It's bull though, because it indicates a lack of respect for your time and planning. When she blows the second meetup for some friends which popped up a last second "opportunity", that's some real bad stuff... She should tell "friends" that she has plans already.

 

[CMNILS87]

If she cancels and doesnt reschedule for a later time, why even waste anymore thought? Next. 1 strike rule. If she hits you up later and asks you out, go for it.

 

[Poon King]

Stop going on "dates" in the first place.

Back when I actually used to go on dates I noticed a similar pattern of flaking and canceling on the 3rd date. Always the 3rd date for some reason.. as if all women plan this sh!t out together.

But why follow boring-ass standard dating protocol in the first place? Believe it or not.. following any kind of standard procedure with women makes a man seem beta and phony. It doesn't mean women won't go out with you.. but they will see you as a tool. Its 2016 not 1950.

Be original. Stop following dumb rules and LEAD women down the path YOU want. I don't go on "dates". I just spend time with women I want to f*ck until I f*ck them.

 

[wifehunter]

Stop going on "dates" in the first place.

Back when I actually used to go on dates I noticed a similar pattern of flaking and canceling on the 3rd date. Always the 3rd date for some reason.. as if all women plan this sh!t out together.

But why follow boring-ass standard dating protocol in the first place? Believe it or not.. following any kind of standard procedure with women makes a man seem beta and phony. It doesn't mean women won't go out with you.. but they will see you as a tool. Its 2016 not 1950.

Be original. Stop following dumb rules and LEAD women down the path YOU want. I don't go on "dates". I just spend time with women I want to f*ck until I f*ck them.

Yes, part of being a man is breaking down barriers and pattern changing, fuk what the world wants you to do!!! I refuse!

Dating is a self inflicted prison. Just spend time with them, and ditch all the bs dating rules.

 

[narcissist]

Stop going on "dates" in the first place.

Back when I actually used to go on dates I noticed a similar pattern of flaking and canceling on the 3rd date. Always the 3rd date for some reason.. as if all women plan this sh!t out together.

But why follow boring-ass standard dating protocol in the first place? Believe it or not.. following any kind of standard procedure with women makes a man seem beta and phony. It doesn't mean women won't go out with you.. but they will see you as a tool. Its 2016 not 1950.

Be original. Stop following dumb rules and LEAD women down the path YOU want. I don't go on "dates". I just spend time with women I want to f*ck until I f*ck them.

There is a difference between "date" and "spending time with women until I fvck them" ? I mean that's what I call a date. But sure, we can call it something else. By "date" I definitely do not mean some 1950s cucky "take a girl out to dinner and buy her flowers." It is simply a useful term. I mean to use "date" in a 2016 contextual way. What is another term that will serve the purpose of saying "take a girl out until i fvck them" because I don't really wanna type all that out.

 

[Young OG]

I have been living by this rule for a year now. But, if a girl flakes and doesn't counter offer, then I next her. I only give her a second chance if she counter offers. If she flakes the second time, I don't respond and delete her number just like you said.

This is a good rule to live by. It stops you from getting hurt, over analyzing, and wasting your time.

 

[wifehunter]

Why waste energy asking her a second time. The ball is in her court, let her hit it back.

 

[narcissist]

Why waste energy asking her a second time. The ball is in her court, let her hit it back.

A couple reasons

1. The energy to write a text is literally miniscule. Far more miniscule than analyzing her texts.
2. Getting puussy is fun. You could easily be missing out on smashing hot women because you pre-maturely eject. I have had multiple times where the second attempt got me the lay. They may simply be nervous, something seriously more important might have actually come up, they may have forgot they had other plans, blah blah blah or they could just be d1cking us around. The first time is too hard to analyze it. Only the second time can we make a more educated guess. And a lot of the times, the girls will actually come on the date and you get the lay!
3. Some women, even if they like you, wont hit you back after a cancellation, because they might perhaps believe that you have nexted them because of their cancellation.
4. Being that stubborn to not ask again is taking game too far. The point of game is to get hot women to sleep with you, and to be a boss. If you are frazzled after one cancellation then you are reading way too into their actions. A true player will definitely try again.
5. I hate this idea of putting the ball in her court. Half the fvcking women dont even know that they have the ball in their court. They are not used to leading. This is why you have to take initiative and ask again. Some women will simply not talk to you again because they ALWAYS view the ball in the guys court. Even if they like you, some women will not take that initiative. And this is where pre-mature ejecting occurs.
6. Refusing to try again after one cancellation is because pride is too high and ego is hurt from analyzing her as being uninterested. We trick ourselves into thinking that asking again is not having self-respect. That is because we tricked ourselves into thinking she ain't interested. Bullsh1t! You can only know for sure after two attempts. Asking twice is persistence, not self-degradation.

Obviously girls that accept on the first date attempt and actually show up are the best. This is no question. They are the most interested. You will be missing out on ALOTTTTT of vag if you just eject every women that has to flake one time. Anyways, I don't see the problem in just asking one more time, the odds are there, its a potential lay. If its because of self-respect than thats taking game a little tooo far. You gotta be able to get rejected. You gotta be able to put yourself out there. At the end of the day, its not like you are continuously asking these girls out and being a cuck. Its only twice! and if she's doesn't take you up on those offers she is ejected.

I dont know. I feel as though we have taken this self-respect idea (which is obviously important dont get me wrong) to a level where we are missing potential opportunities because we misinterpret something as being disrespect. Its being too sensitive. Taking EVERYTHING as a slight to your ego and as a sign of disrespect is bad and not conducive to getting laid and being a boss. Sure some flakes are blatantly disrespectful. I wouldn't ask those ones out again. But the ambiguous ones. Why the fvck not? Ive gotten laid many times from second attempts.

 

[narcissist]

I have been living by this rule for a year now. But, if a girl flakes and doesn't counter offer, then I next her. I only give her a second chance if she counter offers. If she flakes the second time, I don't respond and delete her number just like you said.

This is a good rule to live by. It stops you from getting hurt, over analyzing, and wasting your time.

You could definitely add the counter-offer stipulation in. The idea that for her to get a second chance she has to counter-offer. I see no problem with that. However, it leaves to onus on the girl. And I hate doing that. Girls are fvcking stupid and sometimes they just dont think of asking for a counter offer, or they might want you to lead or whatever > it gets back into the analyzation process > which i am not in the business of. So personally, I ask either way, I dont give a sh1t - but this takes a little bit of ego-supression and a bit of humility > however I think these are necessary for a high-level player. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. This is the risk. But I am willing to take it. Say for instance it works only 20-30% of the time. Thats basically 1/4 attempts it works. And personally the three times it doesnt work, I dont care, because I dont ever think about those girls again. I only care about the girl that I am successful with, not the one that didnt work out. Its literally the same as/analogous to approaching. You approach 50 women to get 10 numbers, but you dont beat yourself up because 40 women didnt give you there numbers because you are probably gunna sleep with 5-6 of the ten. Ya gotta have humility and the ability to be rejected if one is to become a good player. What do you think?

 

[CMNILS87]

All women that have counter offered after canceling are 100% on closing with sex. I think 4/4 in the last 6 months

 

[Poon King]

There is a difference between "date" and "spending time with women until I fvck them" ? I mean that's what I call a date. But sure, we can call it something else. By "date" I definitely do not mean some 1950s cucky "take a girl out to dinner and buy her flowers." It is simply a useful term. I mean to use "date" in a 2016 contextual way. What is another term that will serve the purpose of saying "take a girl out until i fvck them" because I don't really wanna type all that out.

A "date" is when you make a special plan just for her because she is so important and so special.

Spending time with a woman you want to f*ck just means inviting her to meet up with you while you do the sh!t you always do.

 

[narcissist]

A "date" is when you make a special plan just for her because she is so important and so special.

Spending time with a woman you want to f*ck just means inviting her to meet up with you while you do the sh!t you always do.

True. I fvcks with it.

 

[wifehunter]

A couple reasons

1. The energy to write a text is literally miniscule. Far more miniscule than analyzing her texts.
2. Getting puussy is fun. You could easily be missing out on smashing hot women because you pre-maturely eject. I have had multiple times where the second attempt got me the lay. They may simply be nervous, something seriously more important might have actually come up, they may have forgot they had other plans, blah blah blah or they could just be d1cking us around. The first time is too hard to analyze it. Only the second time can we make a more educated guess. And a lot of the times, the girls will actually come on the date and you get the lay!
3. Some women, even if they like you, wont hit you back after a cancellation, because they might perhaps believe that you have nexted them because of their cancellation.
4. Being that stubborn to not ask again is taking game too far. The point of game is to get hot women to sleep with you, and to be a boss. If you are frazzled after one cancellation then you are reading way too into their actions. A true player will definitely try again.
5. I hate this idea of putting the ball in her court. Half the fvcking women dont even know that they have the ball in their court. They are not used to leading. This is why you have to take initiative and ask again. Some women will simply not talk to you again because they ALWAYS view the ball in the guys court. Even if they like you, some women will not take that initiative. And this is where pre-mature ejecting occurs.
6. Refusing to try again after one cancellation is because pride is too high and ego is hurt from analyzing her as being uninterested. We trick ourselves into thinking that asking again is not having self-respect. That is because we tricked ourselves into thinking she ain't interested. Bullsh1t! You can only know for sure after two attempts. Asking twice is persistence, not self-degradation.

Obviously girls that accept on the first date attempt and actually show up are the best. This is no question. They are the most interested. You will be missing out on ALOTTTTT of vag if you just eject every women that has to flake one time. Anyways, I don't see the problem in just asking one more time, the odds are there, its a potential lay. If its because of self-respect than thats taking game a little tooo far. You gotta be able to get rejected. You gotta be able to put yourself out there. At the end of the day, its not like you are continuously asking these girls out and being a cuck. Its only twice! and if she's doesn't take you up on those offers she is ejected.

I dont know. I feel as though we have taken this self-respect idea (which is obviously important dont get me wrong) to a level where we are missing potential opportunities because we misinterpret something as being disrespect. Its being too sensitive. Taking EVERYTHING as a slight to your ego and as a sign of disrespect is bad and not conducive to getting laid and being a boss. Sure some flakes are blatantly disrespectful. I wouldn't ask those ones out again. But the ambiguous ones. Why the fvck not? Ive gotten laid many times from second attempts.

I figure I've made my move, her turn now. (IL test)

 

[narcissist]

I figure I've made my move, her turn now. (IL test)

To each his own.

 

[wifehunter]

To each his own.

It's probably age.... I'm just too old for that. Persistence is something I like to use for my mission, not a lady. When I was younger I would put more effort. But, I've had ladies jump at the chance. (Ex: Me: what are you doing tonight? Her: something with you!)

Maybe I'm just spoiled by past experiences.

 

[BeTheChange]

A couple reasons

1. The energy to write a text is literally miniscule. Far more miniscule than analyzing her texts.
2. Getting puussy is fun. You could easily be missing out on smashing hot women because you pre-maturely eject. I have had multiple times where the second attempt got me the lay. They may simply be nervous, something seriously more important might have actually come up, they may have forgot they had other plans, blah blah blah or they could just be d1cking us around. The first time is too hard to analyze it. Only the second time can we make a more educated guess. And a lot of the times, the girls will actually come on the date and you get the lay!
3. Some women, even if they like you, wont hit you back after a cancellation, because they might perhaps believe that you have nexted them because of their cancellation.
4. Being that stubborn to not ask again is taking game too far. The point of game is to get hot women to sleep with you, and to be a boss. If you are frazzled after one cancellation then you are reading way too into their actions. A true player will definitely try again.
5. I hate this idea of putting the ball in her court. Half the fvcking women dont even know that they have the ball in their court. They are not used to leading. This is why you have to take initiative and ask again. Some women will simply not talk to you again because they ALWAYS view the ball in the guys court. Even if they like you, some women will not take that initiative. And this is where pre-mature ejecting occurs.
6. Refusing to try again after one cancellation is because pride is too high and ego is hurt from analyzing her as being uninterested. We trick ourselves into thinking that asking again is not having self-respect. That is because we tricked ourselves into thinking she ain't interested. Bullsh1t! You can only know for sure after two attempts. Asking twice is persistence, not self-degradation.

Obviously girls that accept on the first date attempt and actually show up are the best. This is no question. They are the most interested. You will be missing out on ALOTTTTT of vag if you just eject every women that has to flake one time. Anyways, I don't see the problem in just asking one more time, the odds are there, its a potential lay. If its because of self-respect than thats taking game a little tooo far. You gotta be able to get rejected. You gotta be able to put yourself out there. At the end of the day, its not like you are continuously asking these girls out and being a cuck. Its only twice! and if she's doesn't take you up on those offers she is ejected.

I dont know. I feel as though we have taken this self-respect idea (which is obviously important dont get me wrong) to a level where we are missing potential opportunities because we misinterpret something as being disrespect. Its being too sensitive. Taking EVERYTHING as a slight to your ego and as a sign of disrespect is bad and not conducive to getting laid and being a boss. Sure some flakes are blatantly disrespectful. I wouldn't ask those ones out again. But the ambiguous ones. Why the fvck not? Ive gotten laid many times from second attempts.

Solid post bro. When I was newly single I found myself taking on the ONE strike rule. In reality it was just ego preservation because like you said the effort required to text and set up another "date" is miniscule and if you can remove your ego from the situation a flake becomes virtually insignificant, because as PK mentioned there shouldn't be any special specific plan just for them - at least not until you've fvcked them AND they've earned your trust as a reliable chick. I would even say two strikes can be premature in some cases.

If they really don't like you they will simply ignore your messages, otherwise set up the date and have them double or triple stacked so if one girl flakes there's another two to take her place - I'm a nice enough guy so I make sure to put any flakers at the bottom of the stack. Karma b*tches. These days I flake on women more than they flake on me.

Game is the game. Play or be played.