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Why They Want You To Fight

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Female Monkeys Manipulate Males Into Fighting

Paris (AFP) - Female vervet monkeys manipulate males into fighting battles by lavishing attention on brave soldiers while giving noncombatants the cold shoulder, researchers said on Wednesday.

After a skirmish with a rival gang, usually over food, females would groom males that had fought hardest, while snapping at those that abstained.
 

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Sounds like human females havent evolved too much from monkeys have they?
 

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If we evolved enought not to beat females who dont give themselves at our will, we should evolve enough to show a middle finger to their attempt to have us fight.

Btw who said that "if it wasnt for males there wouldnt been wars"...
 

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None of us have.
Indeed. The flip side of these "manipulative" monkeys are dudes that clearly EVERYTHING they do (mysteriously absent walking up and starting a conversation) is to IMPRESS THE LADIES.

EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NO LADIES AROUND.

When I see a group of obnoxious young males, I'm reminded of cicadas, frogs, monkeys and crickets who sit there MAKING NOISE hoping it will get them laid whether or not there are even ladies present.

I supposed you could call that "monkey game."
 

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From the article:

On the other hand, being rewarded could "potentially signal to other female group members that the... male is a valuable social partner", likely boosting "male mating success".

Really? you mean that sheep mentality is global among females? guess we call it social proof

In group animals, such as humans, a delicate balance must be maintained between participating in hunting or defence, which can be risky, and free-riding, which is less hazardous but can lead to social rejection.

Which explains why a low salary police officer or a street thug gets more pvssy than a wealthy engineer.
 

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From the article:

On the other hand, being rewarded could "potentially signal to other female group members that the... male is a valuable social partner", likely boosting "male mating success".

Really? you mean that sheep mentality is global among females? guess we call it social proof

In group animals, such as humans, a delicate balance must be maintained between participating in hunting or defence, which can be risky, and free-riding, which is less hazardous but can lead to social rejection.

Which explains why a low salary police officer or a street thug gets more pvssy than a wealthy engineer.
The most satisfying moments of anthropology are when you see these unknowing acknowledgements of the blue & red pills existing in nature from people who have no idea what the red pill is, would have an agenda against it if they did, and believe that humans are above monkeys.
 

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This makes perfect sense for the monkeys. The males are protecting their tribe (and the females) by fighting the rival gangs. The females reward the males who fought with attention, while despising the cowards. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with this. Now if they were trying to get monkeys to fight for no reason, that would be different.

I suppose the manosphere wants to say these soldier monkeys are beta because they are putting themselves at risk to help provide food for the tribe (and the females), while the non-brainwashed "alpha" coward monkeys are doing their own thing and only care about themselves?
 

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This makes perfect sense for the monkeys. The males are protecting their tribe (and the females) by fighting the rival gangs. The females reward the males who fought with attention, while despising the cowards. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with this. Now if they were trying to get monkeys to fight for no reason, that would be different.

I suppose the manosphere wants to say these soldier monkeys are beta because they are putting themselves at risk to help provide food for the tribe (and the females), while the non-brainwashed "alpha" coward monkeys are doing their own thing and only care about themselves?
You have to go backwards in the line of reasoning. First ask, why should the male monkeys be fighting each other at all? there's two reasons, and one is the blue pill of fighting to get more resources for females. Which leads to even if there is no inherent reason, the females create one by favoring the ones who fight.

The other reason would be because there are too few females for everyone to mate with, but then why would the females care about them fighting? they've already got their reproduction down. They could all live in peace. Whatever, it's just monkeys...
 
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The most satisfying moments of anthropology are when you see these unknowing acknowledgements of the blue & red pills existing in nature from people who have no idea what the red pill is, would have an agenda against it if they did, and believe that humans are above monkeys.
No sh1t great point, Im surprised the PC authorities didnt get already antrophology under their supervision.

This makes perfect sense for the monkeys. The males are protecting their tribe (and the females) by fighting the rival gangs. The females reward the males who fought with attention, while despising the cowards. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with this. Now if they were trying to get monkeys to fight for no reason, that would be different.

I suppose the manosphere wants to say these soldier monkeys are beta because they are putting themselves at risk to help provide food for the tribe (and the females), while the non-brainwashed "alpha" coward monkeys are doing their own thing and only care about themselves?
Your point holds ground however in our case there are no such things as well being of the tribe since its females first for example to vote pro immigration parties which are the opposite of defending the tribe.

It makes no sense at all for modern females to reward fighters defending the tribe while supporting those who allow the threath to get stronger.
 

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It makes no sense at all for modern females to reward fighters defending the tribe while supporting those who allow the threath to get stronger.
Few modern behaviors make sense in light of ancient instincts, but they are still there. And they exist on many levels, often times contradicting one another.

Instincts only make perfect sense in SMALL groups.

Modern society is a extremely late invention in light of human evolution.

With a particular small group, for example, the fight is for one's political beliefs. That it will l later potentially kill that small group isn't usually realized until too late.

It's happened before. Left wing types argue for certain political ideas, only to have those political ideas destroy the society. As the society is being destroyed, those same left wing types realize their error.

Understanding deep instincts and how they affect larger society is an unknown idea for most people.
 

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You have to go backwards in the line of reasoning. First ask, why should the male monkeys be fighting each other at all? there's two reasons, and one is the blue pill of fighting to get more resources for females.
The caption said they are usually fighting over food. That would be resources for the whole tribe, not just for the females. Again, I say it makes sense, because if the male monkeys want their DNA to be passed on successfully, they will want to put their tribe in the strongest position to get resources. Healthy tribe, healthy males, healthy females, healthy children, their DNA gets passed on successfully. That's supposed to be a hallmark of the "alpha" male. I don't see it as blue pill at all. Lol at talking about monkeys and the blue pill, by the way.

makes no sense at all for modern females to reward fighters defending the tribe while supporting those who allow the threath to get stronger.
No argument there at all. I'm just saying it makes sense for the monkeys. I don't think it's really a case of evil slvtty club dwelling female monkeys trying to get their beta puppy male monkeys to dance for them. :)
 
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