"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I'm 25 and I lost my virginity last night.

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I finally managed it, and apparently not through game.

Through my efforts in the gym.

This actually quite hot girl recently joined my social circle and made it pretty clear from the beginning that she fancied me. The IOS's were strong from the get go.
We all went out as a group and she accidentally brushed my abs and then started fondling them and complimenting me on them.

We got into a club and started dancing and she began grinding up against me making me hard. I pressed it into her for a while before spinning her around to face me. We danced for a bit longer and then I went in for the kiss. She kissed straight back.

We went home from the club and I finally had sex for the first time.

I'd heard so many times that a virgin would likely blow his load in seconds but actually all that jacking off meant that I lasted for ages in her. She seemed very satisfied.
I also realised that sex is not that big of a deal that I have been thinking all these years. Although I certainly enjoyed myself.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Eternal_water

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Thanks, one of my (apparent) friends was trying to c0ckblock me and pull her himself (he has a gf).
It didn't work.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I finally managed it, and apparently not through game.

Through my efforts in the gym.

This actually quite hot girl recently joined my social circle and made it pretty clear from the beginning that she fancied me. The IOS's were strong from the get go.
We all went out as a group and she accidentally brushed my abs and then started fondling them and complimenting me on them.

We got into a club and started dancing and she began grinding up against me making me hard. I pressed it into her for a while before spinning her around to face me. We danced for a bit longer and then I went in for the kiss. She kissed straight back.

We went home from the club and I finally had sex for the first time.

I'd heard so many times that a virgin would likely blow his load in seconds but actually all that jacking off meant that I lasted for ages in her. She seemed very satisfied.
I also realised that sex is not that big of a deal that I have been thinking all these years. Although I certainly enjoyed myself.
Great job. You did everything right.

Spinning her around during grinding is perfect. It's a great test for an IOI. If she keeps her back to you and refuses to turn around, not good. She is purposely avoiding being in a position to kiss you.

But if she lets herself grind you face to face, then she's probably open to a good makeout or even much more, as you saw. Absolutely perfect!
 
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I'm glad you realized sex is not that big of a deal. Makes me wonder why society is so obsessed with it. There are many other pleasures in life just as good or better
 

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I finally managed it, and apparently not through game.

Through my efforts in the gym.

This actually quite hot girl recently joined my social circle and made it pretty clear from the beginning that she fancied me. The IOS's were strong from the get go.
We all went out as a group and she accidentally brushed my abs and then started fondling them and complimenting me on them.

We got into a club and started dancing and she began grinding up against me making me hard. I pressed it into her for a while before spinning her around to face me. We danced for a bit longer and then I went in for the kiss. She kissed straight back.

We went home from the club and I finally had sex for the first time.

I'd heard so many times that a virgin would likely blow his load in seconds but actually all that jacking off meant that I lasted for ages in her. She seemed very satisfied.
I also realised that sex is not that big of a deal that I have been thinking all these years. Although I certainly enjoyed myself.
Congrats, you'll be horny for a while (the first time makes you wanna behave like a bunny).. so if she's still accessible take advantage of it

About the ''buddy''.... he's not your friend... he's toxic... get rid of him (don't invite him with you... he will always try to ****block you)

You'll see now girls will come more easily... but you'll have to pull the stuff right
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nice. Did you drink that night, it usually takes forever to cvm while intoxicated.

Yeah sex isn't that big of a deal. Question is can you now get sex without being so obviously approached like she did?
 

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Thanks for the replies everyone.

I didn't drink much, I wanted to keep a clear head. Whether or not I can now get sex without being obviously approached remains to be seen.

Well we went on a "first" date yesterday which ended in sex again.
 

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I finally managed it, and apparently not through game.

Through my efforts in the gym.

This actually quite hot girl recently joined my social circle and made it pretty clear from the beginning that she fancied me. The IOS's were strong from the get go.
We all went out as a group and she accidentally brushed my abs and then started fondling them and complimenting me on them.

We got into a club and started dancing and she began grinding up against me making me hard. I pressed it into her for a while before spinning her around to face me. We danced for a bit longer and then I went in for the kiss. She kissed straight back.

We went home from the club and I finally had sex for the first time.

I'd heard so many times that a virgin would likely blow his load in seconds but actually all that jacking off meant that I lasted for ages in her. She seemed very satisfied.
I also realised that sex is not that big of a deal that I have been thinking all these years. Although I certainly enjoyed myself.
I would phvck her as many times as possible. You need reps.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes. Well I did so again yesterday.
Keep doing it... I'd not talk very much and keep it focused on the physical. If you have a place, invite her to spend the night on many occasions. You can make this your gf that you can pound a few hundred times in 6 months to a year. That will make a big difference in your confidence as a man and your confidence in your c0ck.

If you can hit it more than once in a day, do that. Enjoy the feelings.
 

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^This. It's not even so much about "experience" per se, but it's about becoming very comfortable with sex.
This will get him comfortable. In his own body, next to a woman, etc. He can get it all with ONE.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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