"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girls rejecting me after seeing my face?

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Hi Fellas,

I have 4 girls rejecting me after seeing my face. Trust me when I say I'm not ugly, I am working out 4 days a week and my face has a bit of fat but not chubby at all. I'm a minority too. Can someone tell me how much information can my face give to a girl that she loses interest instantly? All girls were white.

Thanks,
Deltabeta
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What do you mean by rejecting you after seeing your face? In person, or over texting?

If they talked to you, they must have seen your face before.
 

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Hi Fellas,

I have 4 girls rejecting me after seeing my face. Trust me when I say I'm not ugly, I am working out 4 days a week and my face has a bit of fat but not chubby at all. I'm a minority too. Can someone tell me how much information can my face give to a girl that she loses interest instantly? All girls were white.

Thanks,
Deltabeta
Try going after a different type of girl. If you are getting the same results you must be making the same mistake. How old are the chicks you're going after? Students? 20's 30's ?

Try going after a chick you normally wouldn't go after. See what happens
 

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What do you mean by rejecting you after seeing your face? In person, or over texting?

If they talked to you, they must have seen your face before.
No it wasn't in person. We just met on an app and then I snapchatted. There was a sudden loss of interest.
 

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Try going after a different type of girl. If you are getting the same results you must be making the same mistake. How old are the chicks you're going after? Students? 20's 30's ?

Try going after a chick you normally wouldn't go after. See what happens
These are students in 18-20s. I'll try going after other types of girls and see how it goes.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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No it wasn't in person. We just met on an app and then I snapchatted. There was a sudden loss of interest.
I don't take a lot of selfies... maybe like 4-5 that I've shown other people in my entire life. But there is an art to it. Seriously, if you want the best results, you have to find the best angle, lighting, etc. When in doubt, a video over Snapchat is probably easier. I only learned how to take a good selfie for Tinder... it's actually really time consuming. Women will spend a long-ass time on selfies. Spend some time (literally an hour if you have to) getting 1 or 2 good ones for whenever you need them. Literally do whatever you have to do, wear a hat if you have to. Whatever improves your looks. I wouldn't have agreed with this advice six months ago, but if done right, OLD is incredibly easy and the initial time investment is worth it.

On the flipside, if I match with a girl on Tinder and her Instagram is like 200+ selfies, I automatically know she has way too much free time.
 

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No it wasn't in person. We just met on an app and then I snapchatted. There was a sudden loss of interest.
This sounds odd. The shape of a face doesn't matter much as long as it doesn't look like it was painted by Picasso. Facial expressions can make a huge difference though, which can change the look and feel of your face in many different ways.

So what's your expression? It would be easier if you sent me some of the pictures that you think got you rejected. I will not share the pictures.
 

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This sounds odd. The shape of a face doesn't matter much as long as it doesn't look like it was painted by Picasso. Facial expressions can make a huge difference though, which can change the look and feel of your face in many different ways.

So what's your expression? It would be easier if you sent me some of the pictures that you think got you rejected. I will not share the pictures.
Hey man. I'll pm you the pictures. I am not a person who poses. You'll see in the picture.
 

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Curious myself bro, send me a copy as well. Do these girls not see a preview of what you look like, before you start talking?
 

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Send me the pictures too. The alerts for this thread have made me curious. I might be able to help you take a better selfie.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Hey man. I'll pm you the pictures. I am not a person who poses. You'll see in the picture.
Yes, a very flat expression. Might look slightly too serious as well. Your actual face is fine though. I think maybe not looking like it bores you to death sending them selfies might have a positive impact.

Oh and one last thing, could it be something you said rather than how you look?
 

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Yes, a very flat expression. Might look slightly too serious as well. Your actual face is fine though. I think maybe not looking like it bores you to death sending them selfies might have a positive impact.

Oh and one last thing, could it be something you said rather than how you look?
Hey. Thanks for the reply. Nah, I'm usually aware of what I say and how its interpreted. Its just the pictures. It could also be the girls just seeeing what kinda guys are going after them and not be interested in dating.
 

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You should be meeting girls in person man,dude,bro
I'm not really seeking ***** rn. It was just a random university app where I met these girls. I usually prefer in person approaches.
 

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Hey. Thanks for the reply. Nah, I'm usually aware of what I say and how its interpreted. Its just the pictures. It could also be the girls just seeeing what kinda guys are going after them and not be interested in dating.
Yeah digital contact works in weird ways. Don't read too much into why this is happening. Many people use such services only out of curiosity, not because they have any serious intentions. When they've gotten the picture it may have satisfied their curiosity, they might simply not be looking for more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I don't take a lot of selfies... maybe like 4-5 that I've shown other people in my entire life. But there is an art to it. Seriously, if you want the best results, you have to find the best angle, lighting, etc. When in doubt, a video over Snapchat is probably easier. I only learned how to take a good selfie for Tinder... it's actually really time consuming. Women will spend a long-ass time on selfies. Spend some time (literally an hour if you have to) getting 1 or 2 good ones for whenever you need them. Literally do whatever you have to do, wear a hat if you have to. Whatever improves your looks. I wouldn't have agreed with this advice six months ago, but if done right, OLD is incredibly easy and the initial time investment is worth it.

On the flipside, if I match with a girl on Tinder and her Instagram is like 200+ selfies, I automatically know she has way too much free time.
Girls will usually take dozens of selfies and then post the best 1. They have a lot of time on their hands so this is one of the things they do when at home, which is where they are always all of the time outside work.

Selfie tips:
Face a window with the sunlight going towards your face, the room in the back should be darker. Ideally take it 1 hour after sunrise or 1 hour before sundown to get soft-box style lighting. The lens of the camera should be just slightly above eye-level and take it at a distance as far as you can as possible. Although above eye-level shots will make your body look smaller it will make your face look better, it's a selfie so that's a good tradeoff. Don't look up too much, instead keep the camera up.

The best selfies, of course, are taken by photographers and the subject is pulling out his/her arm to pretend it's a selfie, I've seen this happen several times with professional instagrammers ;)o_O
 

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Or you could display your photo in the app and engage those who are actually attracted to you.
 
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