Not in the relationship aspect, but in the "escalation to sex" aspect. We were about 3 drinks in when she pulled it on me while topless and panties on after a hot make out sesh. I tried the take away method, which almost never fails, but after re initiating twice more, I realized it wasn't happening. I figured her anti-sl*t defense was kicking in. Tried hitting her up a couple days later, can't even get her to hang out now. This is coming from a girl who's most pictures on Instagram are half naked selfies. Could just be a narcissistic tease. Thoughts?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Good response to "you're moving too fast"
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
dustmuffin
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I have no clue. I would have done the same thing as you. But.....I think the next time this happens to me I'm going to say your right we are moving to fast. Collect her clothes throw them at her and kick her a ss out the door. Then see what happens.....It's just an experiment I would like to try......Some advise I would give you for your situation is that I would wait a week and then try to set up another date.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
You're trying to hard. Frame, she's testing your frame. How much self control do you have? She wants to know, before giving it up. Best response is to go fishing or something. Like shooting?
^^ This.
She won't know what hit her. Every beta she's had is going to beg and cry at this point.
CJ
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
I think that failure in escalation is often the result of not softening up the target enough beforehand. The jump is too abrupt for her.
I will usually soften the target by doing things like walking through every doorway and stairway right next to her, crowding her and forcing her to squeeze through together with me. Of course I blame her and ask, teasingly, "Why don't you let me pass through? A classy lady would let me pass through." The more astute of you will realize that I'm planting a phrase that I want her to reference later: "Let me pass through." The combination of the boldness, the audacity and the physical closeness will tend to thrill her, and will leave her much more open to escalation later. I will also gently push them into trees, posts, etc. (as if there was no room for us to go past the obstacle together), telling her she should be more careful, but not to worry as I'll protect her. She begins to associate your bodies touching with fun and pleasure.
These are also good opportunities to jokingly imply she is a bit clumsy and needs my help ("I have so much work to do with you and so little time").
I find that subtly setting the stage as early as possible with "innocent" and fun touching makes them very open to physical escalation later.
I always get them into a state where they're dying to escalate with me because I do the preparation beforehand. Of course the logistics sometimes prevent this, but it's always a good thing to keep in mind for when time and space are in your favor.
I will usually soften the target by doing things like walking through every doorway and stairway right next to her, crowding her and forcing her to squeeze through together with me. Of course I blame her and ask, teasingly, "Why don't you let me pass through? A classy lady would let me pass through." The more astute of you will realize that I'm planting a phrase that I want her to reference later: "Let me pass through." The combination of the boldness, the audacity and the physical closeness will tend to thrill her, and will leave her much more open to escalation later. I will also gently push them into trees, posts, etc. (as if there was no room for us to go past the obstacle together), telling her she should be more careful, but not to worry as I'll protect her. She begins to associate your bodies touching with fun and pleasure.
These are also good opportunities to jokingly imply she is a bit clumsy and needs my help ("I have so much work to do with you and so little time").
I find that subtly setting the stage as early as possible with "innocent" and fun touching makes them very open to physical escalation later.
I always get them into a state where they're dying to escalate with me because I do the preparation beforehand. Of course the logistics sometimes prevent this, but it's always a good thing to keep in mind for when time and space are in your favor.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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You can't use rational thinking to figure out an irrational person who relies on "feelings" to make decisions about what she does and doesn't do! It really doesn't matter as to why she didn't proceed.
Don't make a big deal about it, withdraw attention & give her a few days. She'll think she is losing you because she didn't follow thru! And next time if you create enough foreplay, she'll likely follow thru.
Don't make a big deal about it, withdraw attention & give her a few days. She'll think she is losing you because she didn't follow thru! And next time if you create enough foreplay, she'll likely follow thru.
Once Bitten
Don Juan
Just tell her "Early bird gets the worm". 
This is 100% exactly what I did. Found out the underlying factor, she's "seeing" someone. Apparently he's "saving himself" for marriage according to her lol. I told her "that's too bad," and she responded with "I know." This broad... At least I feel better knowing it wasn't entirely me because my game was pretty tight.