Why the double standards?

[El Payaso]

If a woman doesn't have the financial means to raise a kid, she can abort the baby or utilize safe haven laws or get govt assistance and child support but if a man doesn't have the financial means he can be harassed in court and possibly jailed?

 

[Bokanovsky]

A woman can get an abortion because "it's her own body". A man cannot force a woman to abort his child because it's not his body. Nor can he stop a woman from having an abortion. Before the baby is born, it is disposable refuse. After the baby is born, it is a precious, heavenly creature. So precious, in fact, that the courts in most jurisdictions are legally obligated to disregard the interests of the father and focus exclusively on the best interests of the child. This, of course, makes perfect sense. As the baby passes through the magic portal known as the vagina, it undergoes an amazing transformation. One minute it's a worthless clump of cells; the next minute it's a little angel!

 

[Dingo]

Damn... ^

 

[bigneil]

Deadbeat Dad laws are as bad as alimony laws. How can a person promise to underwrite a woman or child's future when the economy is tanking? My latest contract offer is 27% less than last year. That's how fast things change.

The State wants men to be enslaved, so it gave them $400,000 houses and a crappy economy, and gave complete control of the household to the most unstable, unfaithful people in the world - women. Then they underwrite the kids so they are raised by the state and turn into these single-mom raised, welfare-loving, Social Justice Warrior Cry Bully pvssies (many of whom are here, thinking that if they espouse enough Feminist values that some bull dyke from the NSA will show up at their door with flowers and tell them how touched she was spying on him).

And I love how when it comes to killing the baby and even harvesting the organs to sell for profit, it's "her body, her choice". But when it comes to refusing vaccines or chemotherapy when it is recommended, the CDC will kidnap your children and put them in foster care where on average they are put on 6 Pharmaceutical drugs each, and where they are 4 times more likely to be molested.

 

[zekko]

I heard OJ Simpson moved to Florida in part because Florida has some of the best laws protecting a person's assets from settlements awarded by the courts. I wonder if this applies to alimony/child support awarded in divorce settlements? Anybody know? Better to move to Florida than get tossed in jail, if the courts (or your ex-wife) are being unfair.

I don't have any kids but it might matter to someone else.

 

[logicallefty]

I heard OJ Simpson moved to Florida in part because Florida has some of the best laws protecting a person's assets from settlements awarded by the courts. I wonder if this applies to alimony/child support awarded in divorce settlements? Anybody know? Better to move to Florida than get tossed in jail, if the courts (or your ex-wife) are being unfair.

I don't have any kids but it might matter to someone else.

Another option besides this if the courts are working against you, file a motion to substitute your Judge and get a new one. In my state you can substitute a Judge one time without cause, just because you want to and have the right to.S o long as you do it before that Judge makes a ruling on your case. Also, if your second one is bad you can show cause and boot that one too. Also, and I don't mean disrespect to our lawyers here on SoSuave I promise that, but this is important too: Most lawyers do not have the balls to file this motion and will say its a bad idea and dance around doing it if you bring it up, or tell you its not possible. That is because they don't want to pizz any judge off in case they have future cases with them. Whenever I have done this substitution, twice now, I have always been pro se. And guess what? The next Judge treated me with respect, and thats the goal, isn't it? Anyway, something to consider.

 

[El Payaso]

Another option besides this if the courts are working against you, file a motion to substitute your Judge and get a new one. In my state you can substitute a Judge one time without cause, just because you want to and have the right to.S o long as you do it before that Judge makes a ruling on your case. Also, if your second one is bad you can show cause and boot that one too. Also, and I don't mean disrespect to our lawyers here on SoSuave I promise that, but this is important too: Most lawyers do not have the balls to file this motion and will say its a bad idea and dance around doing it if you bring it up, or tell you its not possible. That is because they don't want to pizz any judge off in case they have future cases with them. Whenever I have done this substitution, twice now, I have always been pro se. And guess what? The next Judge treated me with respect, and thats the goal, isn't it? Anyway, something to consider.

What state is this?

 

[Yewki]

A woman can get an abortion because "it's her own body". A man cannot force a woman to abort his child because it's not his body. Nor can he stop a woman from having an abortion. Before the baby is born, it is disposable refuse. After the baby is born, it is a precious, heavenly creature. So precious, in fact, that the courts in most jurisdictions are legally obligated to disregard the interests of the father and focus exclusively on the best interests of the child. This, of course, makes perfect sense. As the baby passes through the magic portal known as the vagina, it undergoes an amazing transformation. One minute it's a worthless clump of cells; the next minute it's a little angel!

The baby is inside the woman's body, but the decision for it to be born dramatically affects the life of the man who co-created it too. There should be some type of middle ground. It's like saying the pilot of a plain can do whatever he wants, because it's his plain... ok, but the pilot's decision directly affects the lives of everyone on board.

This is what I would propose. Before the baby is born and while it can still be aborted, the father has the right to file an "intent to abort"... it would establish that the man doesn't want the child and the unborn child can still be reasonably aborted legally. The man would put up the money necessary to do the abortion, both parties would sign (the woman would be legally obligated to sign), and from this point on the man has given up all parental rights to the child and it is now the sole responsibility of the mother.

Go ahead and have the baby now, hun.

 

[Tictac]

The baby is inside the woman's body, but the decision for it to be born dramatically affects the life of the man who co-created it too. There should be some type of middle ground. It's like saying the pilot of a plain can do whatever he wants, because it's his plain... ok, but the pilot's decision directly affects the lives of everyone on board.

This is what I would propose. Before the baby is born and while it can still be aborted, the father has the right to file an "intent to abort"... it would establish that the man doesn't want the child and the unborn child can still be reasonably aborted legally. The man would put up the money necessary to do the abortion, both parties would sign (the woman would be legally obligated to sign), and from this point on the man has given up all parental rights to the child and it is now the sole responsibility of the mother.

Go ahead and have the baby now, hun.

There is a similar idea called 'legal abortion' where the man can legally disassociate from a child he doesn't want and the mother decides not to abort the fetus.

I figure it's another 'when pigs fly' kind of thing.

 

[logicallefty]

What state is this?

Illinois

 

[zekko]

OJ moved to Florida because state law there prevents a person's home from being repossessed in order to satisfy a civil judgment - in his case, some of the $33.5 million he owes the Goldmans. This same law does not apply to divorce/alimony judgments.

What a surprise.
I was hoping one of our legal posters would answer this.