Advice on return text......

[dustmuffin]

Ok went out on a date it went well with kiss close.
I waited two days to invite her out again.

My text: I'm going out for mexican monday or tuesday you should come along

Her reply: Thanks for the invite but I dont come along.

This was about 12 hours after I sent the text.

How should I reply?


Im thinking no reply or thats fine I already found someone else that wants to come along. This is true. If the ***** doesn't reply in a timely manner I just line someone else up.

Thoughts?

 

[CMNILS87]

you kissed closed and you framed the question as s fun Mexican hangout. She replied with a snide/prudish remark. Maybe she was trying to be sarcastic, but she sounds stuck up. Don't reply, let her text you back. The silence is enough to make her wonder

 

[dustmuffin]

She thinks she is the prize. She is wrong. You are a man who creates a life full of choices, for himself. There is no reason to stoop to her level. You don't need her, her attention, or her pvssy.

She didn't value your time or attention, so don't offer her any more. It will drive her nuts. Silence...forever. Let her hamster spin...forever.

Move yourself right along to having fun with another woman. These are the benefits of always knowing you have choices and acting as such.

Yes I do have options. I lined up two dates with better looking women. I think she expects me to come back with an apology and trying to win another date from her. I didn't do anything wrong and I'm moving along....

 

[guru1000]

Ignore. Come back in three weeks, and ask for the date. No cheesy, inauthentic requests. Ask for the date directly and specifically: date, time, place. If she gets smart again, toss.

Pride doesn't get you anywhere. You gamed her wrong on the first date; hence, her snide rebut. BE egoless and shameless. The goal is to win, not self-affirm.

 

[Roni_88]

Ignore. Come back in three weeks, and ask for the date. No cheesy, inauthentic requests. Ask for the date directly and specifically: date, time, place. If she gets smart again, toss.

Pride doesn't get you anywhere. You gamed her wrong on the first date; hence, her snide rebut. BE egoless and shameless. The goal is to win, not self-affirm.

Just curious Guru, why did he game her wrong on the first date ?

 

[dustmuffin]

Ignore. Come back in three weeks, and ask for the date. No cheesy, inauthentic requests. Ask for the date directly and specifically: date, time, place. If she gets smart again, toss.

Pride doesn't get you anywhere. You gamed her wrong on the first date; hence, her snide rebut. BE egoless and shameless. The goal is to win, not self-affirm.

I think I will go with this. I will only text her if I have no other options. I will be more direct next time. How did I not game her properly the first time?

 

[Floydispink01]

Nah. F.ck her. She had her chance.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Ignore. Come back in three weeks, and ask for the date.

Why in the world anybody COME BACK to this? Second date and she's already trying to fight for frame control?

Disqualified. Next.

Consider one of the qualities you look for in a women is that she AUTOMATICALLY recognizes the strength of your frame and won't require crafty games to maintain control.

Whether your fame is weak or she is over valuing herself isn't important. Either look for new girls while strengthening your frame, or find girls that already appreciate your frame.

Life's too short to mess around with useless head games. Sort and DQ.

 

[ubercat]

Depends on your objectives. The reply was disrespectful and borderline feminist. So I'd expect a storm of s*** tests on the second date.

So if you're g/f hunting she ain't it.

However go with g1000s advice if u just want a shag and/or want to practice your game.

 

[dustmuffin]

Depends on your objectives. The reply was disrespectful and borderline feminist. So I'd expect a storm of s*** tests on the second date.

So if you're g/f hunting she ain't it.

However go with g1000s advice if u just want a shag and/or want to practice your game.

She isn't gf material. She has quite a few red flags. I just wanted to bed her. I will wait and if I have no better options I will contact her.

 

[guru1000]

Dustmuffin, I have at least one dozen women come much harder at me than the one you described and I fvked them a month or two later. Two are among my most loyal orbiters today.

A woman's words or response means nothing. What matters most is what YOU want out of the exchange. IF you seek high IL from the onset as a measure of qualifying, listen to TO. If YOU are looking for fun, then enjoy.

True indifference means you are unaffected, remaining loyal only to what you want. If she turned you off and you are no longer attracted due to the exchange; that's one thing; otherwise no biggie.

I once had a post first-date exchange as follows:

Guru: Hey, I'd like you to join Sunday night @ 8pm for a drink at XYZ.

Girl: That place is a dive. No thank you.

Guru: <Silence>

<One month later>

Guru: Hey, I'd like you to join Sunday night @ 8pm for a drink at XYZ. (Identical line and place to the same girl)

Girl: Hey. Can we make it 9pm, I finish work late.

Refer to Post 101 on this thread. Granted it was an approach, and not post-date. This girl is among my most loyal fans to date.

Enjoy the "game" friend.

How did I not game her properly the first time?

You didn't fvck her.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Me thinks you are overthinking.

If she doesn't submit to your frame, just do the take away.

"Cool np, maybe another time."

Wait until your ready to ask her out again and try again. Basically, what guru said.

 

[dustmuffin]

Dustmuffin, I have at least one dozen women come much harder at me than the one you described and I fvked them a month or two later. Two are among my most loyal orbiters today.

A woman's words or response means nothing. What matters most is what YOU want out of the exchange. IF you seek high IL from the onset as a measure of qualifying, listen to TO. If YOU are looking for fun, then enjoy.

True indifference means you are unaffected, remaining loyal only to what you want. If she turned you off and you are no longer attracted due to the exchange; that's one thing; otherwise no biggie.

I once had a post first-date exchange as follows:



<One month later>


Refer to Post 101 on this thread. Granted it was an approach, and not post-date. This girl is among my most loyal fans to date.

Enjoy the "game" friend.


You didn't fvck her.

thanks for the tips guru. I appreciate them. I have a phone full of numbers I can try that way in the future if I need to. What's the worst that can happen? Silence.....Big deal......Remove my ego and press forward

 

[dustmuffin]

Just an update for the thread. She has been looking at my OLD profile.....I think the hamster is in full gear......

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I will wait and if I have no better options I will contact her.

So, this girl ALREADY tested your frame (and essentially WON the first frame control contest) and your plan is to contact her when you have NO OTHER OPTIONS?

Don't you see how this will make you EVEN WEAKER?

Your plan should be to go out and get as many ready honey's as you can and THEN contact her ONLY WHEN you've got PLENTY of other options.

But since she's already pretty much shown LOW INTEREST, why do you even bother thinking about her?

I don't know why (well, actually I DO know why) guys always think it's a good idea to pursue low interest prospects.

 

[dustmuffin]

So, this girl ALREADY tested your frame (and essentially WON the first frame control contest) and your plan is to contact her when you have NO OTHER OPTIONS?

Don't you see how this will make you EVEN WEAKER?

Your plan should be to go out and get as many ready honey's as you can and THEN contact her ONLY WHEN you've got PLENTY of other options.

But since she's already pretty much shown LOW INTEREST, why do you even bother thinking about her?

I don't know why (well, actually I DO know why) guys always think it's a good idea to pursue low interest prospects.

I have plenty of options. I'm sitting on the patio waiting for my date now.you do have plenty of good points.

 

[guru1000]

So, this girl ALREADY tested your frame (and essentially WON the first frame control contest) and your plan is to contact her when you have NO OTHER OPTIONS?

Don't you see how this will make you EVEN WEAKER?

Being I was the one who contributed much to the coinage "frame," what's weak is submitting to an antiquated SoSuave ideology of controlling the frame (btw search "guru1000" and "how to control the frame"), as opposed to being truly indifferent, treating each situation uniquely absent a governing "rule." It's no accident that many lose subscribing to binary philosophies. Prudent, to be no slave to any ideology, other than what work proves effective for YOU and your target. Until one reaches the epitome of "game," does one understand there is no "game." Just different impetuses, different subjects, and diverse, fluid, tailored-approached knowledge in how to "close the deal." One size does not fit all. Ideologies mean crap. Results speak.

High IL, high IL, high IL. You sound like me in 2007. A DJ closes all that HE wants to close: high, medium, low. Her IL matters not. YOUR IL matters. Whether YOU wish to pursue the target matters. Finding a high IL woman does not make you a DJ. It makes you a qualifier. A DJ closes the deals HE wants to close.

The above is in the context of pickup, not LTR game. Hey, I love Anti-Dump too, but in the context of dating, those days are over friend.

 

[EyeBRollin]

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High IL, high IL, high IL. You sound like me in 2007. A DJ closes all that HE wants to close: high, medium, low. Her IL matters not. YOUR IL matters. Whether YOU wish to pursue the target matters. Finding a high IL woman does not make you a DJ. It makes you a qualifier. A DJ closes the deals HE wants to close.

Assuming low interest is still some interest, and not no interest, of course.

 

[Vivacity]

She thinks she is the prize. She is wrong. You are a man who creates a life full of choices, for himself. There is no reason to stoop to her level. You don't need her, her attention, or her pvssy.

She didn't value your time or attention, so don't offer her any more. It will drive her nuts. Silence...forever. Let her hamster spin...forever.

Move yourself right along to having fun with another woman. These are the benefits of always knowing you have choices and acting as such.

She was redirecting you to put her on a pedestal. In her mind that is where she belongs. She wants you to worship her and her attention. Not going to happen with you. Not worth your time, especially not to play her games. You always have options and you know it and you act accordingly.

There is no call to stick around for something less than desirable, when you know you always have other choices. Good for you, for just moving on and immediately lining up something more desirable for yourself.

Great posts.

Always improve yourself (for example, a college degree, promotion, better job, working out, dressing well, smelling well). Attract options. Take 2 shots. Value yourself and your time. March on like a monster.