I think I see why either losers or popular rich guys get all the girls

[Dhoulmagus]

First, I think the popular rich guy is common sense, so I'm not going to waste any time on that. Essentially, the bum benefits off of many important factors. One, he has all the time in the world, so he is more available to meet women. I'm not saying he is coddling constantly coddling women, but he could go to a woman's place and **** her on a Sunday night at 1am.

Two, he has nothing else to lose due to lack of any real responsibility in his life, so he emits this I don't give a **** mentality that girls like. His lack of responsibility in life actually gives him confidence. Me, I have to be cautious what I do because all it takes is a simple call to my company's HR department for me to be in hot water. I wasn't born with parents that would buy my mistakes out, so I couldn't really afford to screw in school and life in general. In addition, he most likely never left his hometown, so he has a lifelong foundation of connections cemented in his area. Meanwhile, I have moved 3 times in the past 5 years and I will probably move again in a year or so.

Third, he wins in the numbers game. I strongly believe that most human beings are idiots, so he already has a larger market than the other guys above him. In addition, he can pull the damaged girls from income classes above him. On the other hand, I am strictly limited in my dating pool. In conclusion, losers attract other losers and idiots are abundant in this world. We assume that as long as a girl doesn't look like crack ***** in public then she's sweet and innocent lol. This pretty much puts me at a disadvantage because there's not a whole lot of women like me. Especially in a town of 16k. I had a horrible date Friday night, so that pretty much made me make this topic

 

[fastlife]

I'm not saying to dumb yourself down--but lower your expectations of what level other people (especially women) will be able to bring to the table intellectually. I say this as a smart guy who used to be frustrated by the fact that I'd bought into an egalitarian mindset that women were just like men but I couldn't find a woman 'on my level.' The real reason smart guys do worse is that they get too much in their head, are too logical, overcomplicate everything, and (as evidenced by the tone of your post) tend to be a little snobby--chances are you're heavily ego-invested in the relative value of your intelligence.

Your male friends are for intellectually stimulating convo (or forums on the internet). Your workplace is where you express yourself intellectually. Women are for getting out of your head and having fun. Tap into your monkey brain (it's a little easier for guys with less complicated mental processes going on, which is why they get sex easier). But I wish I had some transcriptions of some of my conversations with women--totally nonsensical and mindless, but there's a ton of stuff going on in that moment that's super enjoyable and stimulating on a subconscious level. Start meditating and learn how to turn off your mind--especially the judgmental aspects of it. Be present.

P.S. No one's gonna call HR (outside your workplace). No one's gonna call a bouncer over. Alarms don't go off. No one will remember the off-the-wall **** you say to girls on a night out. There's a difference between being responsible and being overly cautious. Stop imaging obstacles that don't exist.

 

[parkthebus]

I am sometimes called snobby or told I look down on people too. I don't think this is because I am a "snob". Everyone does it too some degree. Looking down on someone is essentially not having respect for that person and I find I just have higher standards for respecting people than most.

That was more of a response to fastlife but this is my response to your post. I don't think most people are low intelligence, I think most people, especially among the working class, have a poor world view. Our world view shapes the opinions we give a lot more than our capability to think objectively. If someone grows up in a society where people talk about useless information like celebrities all the time, they're most likely going to do the same. Not because they're stupid but because it's a learnt behaviour. I find a lot of women, and men in fact, to say stuff that I consider to be a stupid thing to say but it doesn't mean they're actually stupid people. Most of us on here are striving to be better people and so we set high standards for our behaviour and the behaviour of the people we share our time with. When we meet someone with lower standards we tend to think of them as stupid as its what they say that we judge them on rather than what we know they're capable of.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

First, I think the popular rich guy is common sense, so I'm not going to waste any time on that. Essentially, the bum benefits off of many important factors. One, he has all the time in the world, so he is more available to meet women. I'm not saying he is coddling constantly coddling women, but he could go to a woman's place and **** her on a Sunday night at 1am.

Two, he has nothing else to lose due to lack of any real responsibility in his life, so he emits this I don't give a **** mentality that girls like. His lack of responsibility in life actually gives him confidence. Me, I have to be cautious what I do because all it takes is a simple call to my company's HR department for me to be in hot water. I wasn't born with parents that would buy my mistakes out, so I couldn't really afford to screw in school and life in general. In addition, he most likely never left his hometown, so he has a lifelong foundation of connections cemented in his area. Meanwhile, I have moved 3 times in the past 5 years and I will probably move again in a year or so.

Third, he wins in the numbers game. I strongly believe that most human beings are idiots, so he already has a larger market than the other guys above him. In addition, he can pull the damaged girls from income classes above him. On the other hand, I am strictly limited in my dating pool. In conclusion, losers attract other losers and idiots are abundant in this world. We assume that as long as a girl doesn't look like crack ***** in public then she's sweet and innocent lol. This pretty much puts me at a disadvantage because there's not a whole lot of women like me. Especially in a town of 16k. I had a horrible date Friday night, so that pretty much made me make this topic

"losers" aren't "losers". These BUMS are partiers and their whole life revolves around it. So they know who to party with, all the right things to say and do. They usually find a way to get money out of someone ( sugar daddy or sugar momma ), even a guy can have a sugar daddy and not be gay, it'll be a family member or friend with cash who likes to help them out.

Anyway they are optimized for the environment. In my partying days I learned that 1/2 of these partiers were these sort of bums or close to it. they were good at what they do, and it's not a supportive environment. They will take you if you get sloppy.

 

[El Payaso]

I'm not saying to dumb yourself down--but lower your expectations of what level other people (especially women) will be able to bring to the table intellectually. I say this as a smart guy who used to be frustrated by the fact that I'd bought into an egalitarian mindset that women were just like men but I couldn't find a woman 'on my level.' The real reason smart guys do worse is that they get too much in their head, are too logical, overcomplicate everything, and (as evidenced by the tone of your post) tend to be a little snobby--chances are you're heavily ego-invested in the relative value of your intelligence.

Your male friends are for intellectually stimulating convo (or forums on the internet). Your workplace is where you express yourself intellectually. Women are for getting out of your head and having fun. Tap into your monkey brain (it's a little easier for guys with less complicated mental processes going on, which is why they get sex easier). But I wish I had some transcriptions of some of my conversations with women--totally nonsensical and mindless, but there's a ton of stuff going on in that moment that's super enjoyable and stimulating on a subconscious level. Start meditating and learn how to turn off your mind--especially the judgmental aspects of it. Be present.

I agree with this a lot.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Even when I do meet these women, our expectations/interests collide with each other. For example, I met up with this girl from tinder and her friend at her pregame at her house. 5 minutes in, I could tell this girl was expecting the stereotypical black guy that raps, tats, played basketball in high school, and etc. Instead, they got a black guy wearing Southern Proper attire, favorite sport is tennis, goals are to travel the world and make money, and etc. Needless to say, I ended up ditching that girl that night because it went to ****. I can't compete with these bums because I live and work in the real world. My bum friends that didn't go to college or majored in sports writing can because they don't live in the real world and never have. I know calling the HR department was kind of a off shot, but in reality I can't be smoking weed with 18 year old teenagers every night like my bum friends.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Even when I do meet these women, our expectations/interests collide with each other. For example, I met up with this girl from tinder and her friend at her pregame at her house. 5 minutes in, I could tell this girl was expecting the stereotypical black guy that raps, tats, played basketball in high school, and etc. Instead, they got a black guy wearing Southern Proper attire, favorite sport is tennis, goals are to travel the world and make money, and etc. Needless to say, I ended up ditching that girl that night because it went to ****. I can't compete with these bums because I live and work in the real world. My bum friends that didn't go to college or majored in sports writing can because they don't live in the real world and never have. I know calling the HR department was kind of a off shot, but in reality I can't be smoking weed with 18 year old teenagers every night like my bum friends.

She wanted tats and more swag than you had. They have no idea how to see outside of their box and it's not for you to get them to. They would never value you at or close to your worth anyway, because they don't have a clue!