"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Black Sunshine

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Hi fellas! I'm new but have been reading this and it has ben eye-opening... Anyway... I recently got back in touch with a girl I wanted to marry. It is long distance, phone,Facebook.....I know, I know. But over the months, we got to the point of talking love , sex marriage.... She DESPERATELY wanted me to come see her. I gotta say, I was not able to because I had to handle some business, and keep my eye on my mo-nay...Also.....Honestly I was reluctant... Wary of herflaking, or throwing some dude In my face a lil. Was gonna give me the pvssy, sent me a nicely discreet nude... I could not go.... Money was a problem for me too, lawyer fees filing deadlines.
I made mistakes of blowing up her phone with texts, trying to send a picture and some other dumb messages.... One day she is having menstrual problems... fibroids...I THOUGHT I had read something and I was worried and felt guilty as hell for not being there.... I thought it was serious.
KABOOM! Of she went ... she said I thought you said you read something, called me a the biggest drama queen, she ever met and all.
This was after she said she was doing better and I said I was relieved... So I said I'll take that as a "Thanks for caring" ...KABOOM! She goes on to tell me, she is still passed about me being drunk and calling her and talking about sex, (Which come to find out, all but guaranteed a screw, said she was down!), blowing up her phone and our conversation about kids, She no , me at the time yeah, but she knew that for a long time anyway. She said I am a nice person and she knows I care but she couldn't take it anymore, as it aggravates her "adrenal fatigue" (note: DDoctors do not recognize it as a diagnosis, it is a quack scam. 'Look up adrenal fatigue fake', but I DO believe something is wrong with her.) because of stress and I had been giving her a lot of that, and she could not take it anymore, I sent her a text which this whole conversation was by the way and said "I'm not quitting?... I thought we were done talking. I sent an email saying, basically I could have done a lot of worse suit or she could have then what? We cut each other out of each others life... What if you dropped my fishing pole in a lake or something. I didn't. Call anymore, she sent me an e-mail saying ...
"I don't know why you think I'm not talking to you anymore. I just been busy dealing with this adrenal fatigue thing again that is a real inconvenience. Been dating someone really nice, a dentist who's been completely supportive and helpful with my adrenal fatigue syndrome. Sorry the gap in communication makes you think that we're not talking, just thought we were taking kind of a break from each other in a way. I've been back in my counseling sessions and really focusing on trying to get this adrenal fatigue under control. Stress and chaos really throws it out of whack. Hate to say it but you were stressing me out and there's a lot of chaos and that was ridiculous for someone that I just only reconnected with and been speaking to on the phone. It was a recipe for disaster as far as my adrenal fatigue syndrome goes. Hope you are doing well I only got one really clear message from you the other two were you talking to somebody else while you had my voice mail on, those messages were really silly didn't make any sense they were not clear and you were just laughing on one of them with somebody in the background another one you sounded drunk and all you said in that one was " young lady" I think. None of them said "hey give me a call I haven't talk to you in a while hope everything is good" until the last message you left. I've been spending time down in Riverside, relaxing and enjoying life with zero stress."

I just sent back 2 emails... one said "OK" and the other said "too much information".
Have I totally messed this up? Should I go see her? What do you think about the dentist helping her out with a fake disease?
I KNOW we have no commitment, and she is in another state.... I am planning on moving back to where she is for my career and to live (LA). Give it to me straight Alpha's, beat the beta out of me.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Black Sunshine

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Longer... All of what tic tac?.... I think I am bout to learn something. Love of my life tictac...
 

MrWood

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why do you want her back?
She is a liar
She is fvcking her dentist
She does not want you

You never actually got the pvssy ever, did you?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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dustmuffin

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Hi fellas! I'm new but have been reading this and it has ben eye-opening... Anyway... I recently got back in touch with a girl I wanted to marry. It is long distance, phone,Facebook.....I know, I know. But over the months, we got to the point of talking love , sex marriage.... She DESPERATELY wanted me to come see her. I gotta say, I was not able to because I had to handle some business, and keep my eye on my mo-nay...Also.....Honestly I was reluctant... Wary of herflaking, or throwing some dude In my face a lil. Was gonna give me the pvssy, sent me a nicely discreet nude... I could not go.... Money was a problem for me too, lawyer fees filing deadlines.
I made mistakes of blowing up her phone with texts, trying to send a picture and some other dumb messages.... One day she is having menstrual problems... fibroids...I THOUGHT I had read something and I was worried and felt guilty as hell for not being there.... I thought it was serious.
KABOOM! Of she went ... she said I thought you said you read something, called me a the biggest drama queen, she ever met and all.
This was after she said she was doing better and I said I was relieved... So I said I'll take that as a "Thanks for caring" ...KABOOM! She goes on to tell me, she is still passed about me being drunk and calling her and talking about sex, (Which come to find out, all but guaranteed a screw, said she was down!), blowing up her phone and our conversation about kids, She no , me at the time yeah, but she knew that for a long time anyway. She said I am a nice person and she knows I care but she couldn't take it anymore, as it aggravates her "adrenal fatigue" (note: DDoctors do not recognize it as a diagnosis, it is a quack scam. 'Look up adrenal fatigue fake', but I DO believe something is wrong with her.) because of stress and I had been giving her a lot of that, and she could not take it anymore, I sent her a text which this whole conversation was by the way and said "I'm not quitting?... I thought we were done talking. I sent an email saying, basically I could have done a lot of worse suit or she could have then what? We cut each other out of each others life... What if you dropped my fishing pole in a lake or something. I didn't. Call anymore, she sent me an e-mail saying ...
"I don't know why you think I'm not talking to you anymore. I just been busy dealing with this adrenal fatigue thing again that is a real inconvenience. Been dating someone really nice, a dentist who's been completely supportive and helpful with my adrenal fatigue syndrome. Sorry the gap in communication makes you think that we're not talking, just thought we were taking kind of a break from each other in a way. I've been back in my counseling sessions and really focusing on trying to get this adrenal fatigue under control. Stress and chaos really throws it out of whack. Hate to say it but you were stressing me out and there's a lot of chaos and that was ridiculous for someone that I just only reconnected with and been speaking to on the phone. It was a recipe for disaster as far as my adrenal fatigue syndrome goes. Hope you are doing well I only got one really clear message from you the other two were you talking to somebody else while you had my voice mail on, those messages were really silly didn't make any sense they were not clear and you were just laughing on one of them with somebody in the background another one you sounded drunk and all you said in that one was " young lady" I think. None of them said "hey give me a call I haven't talk to you in a while hope everything is good" until the last message you left. I've been spending time down in Riverside, relaxing and enjoying life with zero stress."

I just sent back 2 emails... one said "OK" and the other said "too much information".
Have I totally messed this up? Should I go see her? What do you think about the dentist helping her out with a fake disease?
I KNOW we have no commitment, and she is in another state.... I am planning on moving back to where she is for my career and to live (LA). Give it to me straight Alpha's, beat the beta out of me.
It is a long distance relationship. You have not had sex. It isn't a relationship. She is nuts. Females with maladies stay away from. She had a dose of the crazy. She is probably fuc king the dentist. Find a local girl. She has a bf for christs sake. Who is better? Hard **** dentist that caters to her or some guy in another state? Stop wasting your time on her and find someone you can f uck.
 

mrgoodstuff

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It is a long distance relationship. You have not had sex. It isn't a relationship. She is nuts. Females with maladies stay away from. She had a dose of the crazy. She is probably fuc king the dentist. Find a local girl. She has a bf for christs sake. Who is better? Hard **** dentist that caters to her or some guy in another state? Stop wasting your time on her and find someone you can f uck.
Phucking is key to any of these relationships. You have to respect the current American culture and political climate. If she is interested in you and wants you to stay around she will be sexually accomidating and "work for you" in the bedroom. If she's a "pretty dead fish", she will at least lay there for you to take your meat.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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dustmuffin

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Kick her in the baby maker.....this gets the girl 9 times out of ten......
 

Black Sunshine

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What was the date the last time you were with her?
2 yrs... used to hit it all the time... Like you guys say, there is no relationship.... So why should I be mad. I am moving back too... I hate it here and really want to go home. Why do you guys think she told me about the dentist? To light a firecracker under my ass? You guys say they do it all the time... Read her words for yourself.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Black Sunshine

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why do you want her back?
She is a liar
She is fvcking her dentist
She does not want you

You never actually got the pvssy ever, did you?
wood, what do you think she is lying about. If anything she told me about DR.Detroit
 

Black Sunshine

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Why not? From your first post, you know what you're up against. If you're moving back near her, sure - look her up. Just make sure you are finding and going out with other women too.
When I go back home, definitely gonna keep my options open.... wide open...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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