“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Wants to be just friends. What should I say?

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I would just like to know what you would have said, given the messages she sent me? I can't really say "gotta run" to a text message, it's not like she called me.
 

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What part of "and asks to see you" didn't you understand?

She likes your attention. And that's all she likes. Unless she asks to see you, say that you are busy, that it was great to hear from her, that you need to go, that she should keep in touch and goodbye.

What you said or what I would have said doesn't matter. It's what you do now that does.

I'm done here
 

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What you said or what I would have said doesn't matter. It's what you do now that does.

I'm done here
Well, I'm trying to learn for the future. She and I are both millennials, even when we are out and preoccupied with this or that, we look at our phones. The fact that I respond with one word or short answers really conveys neediness? Really gives her the attention she is allegedly seeking?
 

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You are passing for a troll.... hence the goat in the username ?

We all had this one experience.... but all you doing is killing yourself in her eyes.... soon she'll be making out and sleeping with guys and talk to you all about boyfriend issues.

You'll be nowhere in her thoughts
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I would just like to know what you would have said, given the messages she sent me? I can't really say "gotta run" to a text message, it's not like she called me.
What you say doesn't matter!

It's your frame with her and you do not have it! It's like two people talking on the phone saying they are going war with each other. One person on the phone is 6-3 280 and the other person is 5-7 130. You can talk tough and say all the right things about how tough you are, but the 6-3 beast is going to laugh! Later Go out and whip a 6-4 300 pounds monsters ass and watch how your Sh!t talk sounds a lil more convincing.
 

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You are passing for a troll.... hence the goat in the username ?

We all had this one experience.... but all you doing is killing yourself in her eyes.... soon she'll be making out and sleeping with guys and talk to you all about boyfriend issues.

You'll be nowhere in her thoughts
My friend has a situation like that and he seems to be everywhere in the girls thoughts.
 

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I don't think what you said was bad at all...but like I said, what you said doesn't even matter.

All you are getting in return is her showing you what she thinks of your frame, so like 98% of this thread has replied, get off this girls nuts...go improve and go chase other tail.
 

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My friend has a situation like that and he seems to be everywhere in the girls thoughts.
Did he get anything?

If not .... than she wants to feel your her dog

If yes.... than she's into him


You are in the '' IF NOT''
 

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Did he get anything?

If not .... than she wants to feel your her dog

If yes.... than she's into him


You are in the '' IF NOT''
Well, my friend is getting action, as much as I don't envy his situation (hearing about one of her exes she still fancies and crap).
 

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Well, my friend is getting action, as much as I don't envy his situation (hearing about one of her exes she still fancies and crap).
You want that girl ? OP girl ?

I'll give you the answer... and its my last comment on this troll post.

You want the GIRL? YOU HAVE TO BANG ANOTHER GIRL AND SHE MUST KNOW IT!
 

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I don't think what you said was bad at all...but like I said, what you said doesn't even matter.

All you are getting in return is her showing you what she thinks of your frame, so like 98% of this thread has replied, get off this girls nuts...go improve and go chase other tail.
Yes I agree, but what I got in return from her last night didn't suggest anything bad about what she thinks about my frame at the given moment. The fact she is reaching out to me more since we last saw each other may indicate I left a good impression on her. I carry myself with confidence and believe I could rekindle her interest with the way I dress, look and behave in her presence. It's the rest of it which kills me.

She also doesn't have "nuts" for me to get off. If she did, no such thread would exist.
 

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You want that girl ? OP girl ?

I'll give you the answer... and its my last comment on this troll post.

You want the GIRL? YOU HAVE TO BANG ANOTHER GIRL AND SHE MUST KNOW IT!
I know. I told her I was dating another chick last time I saw her (which is true). Last Saturday, I was hoping to encounter her at a bar while I had my tongue in the other girl's mouth.

I also don't see why this is such a troll post. I came here legitimately seeking answers. Am I troll for being set in my ways, perhaps?
 

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Yes I agree, but what I got in return from her last night didn't suggest anything bad about what she thinks about my frame at the given moment. The fact she is reaching out to me more since we last saw each other may indicate I left a good impression on her. I carry myself with confidence and believe I could rekindle her interest with the way I dress, look and behave in her presence. It's the rest of it which kills me.

She also doesn't have "nuts" for me to get off. If she did, no such thread would exist.
Yes it does...because here's the thing you subliminally are denying...

You want this chick to be on your nuts! A simple text to show she's interested is not good enough for you. You want her physically and virtually throwing herself at you and that's what's killing you inside. The thing is women who do that...those females are in a guys frame and have high interest. You might have a frame with her, but she's on the outside looking in tilting you back and forth because that's what attention seeking females do (who have low enough interest to not step in)..they give enough interest to see how they can affect the position of your frame.

Are you satisfied with that? If you are not...your best move at this point as it has been stated so many times is to stop giving a damn and spend time improving and search for women who actually want to step inside your frame. If she text you...if you wanna reply...reply. But know that it does not matter. She's doing it outside your frame.
 

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Thx. One of my friends said when she texted "I hate being home alone" I should have asked if she wanted to me to come there instead of playing games.

I don't think it would have helped my cause.
 

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I really wish I didn't say the last bit and left her at "I seeee"

She never responded to the last portion.
 

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I'm gonna face this soon... I can feel it.... In our complicated relationship I totally understand.

I just hope I can keep calm and say something "suave"..... to possibly keep us as FWB.
 

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I'm gonna face this soon... I can feel it.... In our complicated relationship I totally understand.

I just hope I can keep calm and say something "suave"..... to possibly keep us as FWB.
You are not obligated to 'totally understand' anything about her.
If the LJBF speech comes, you need simply say no. And that you are not interested in anything like that.
 
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Thought I’d provide a little update.

Before I say anything — while I am still, to an extent, interested in this chick, my feelings for her have waned considerably since I last posted. I grew weary of her nonsense and the special feeling I once had for her is no longer there. If my history be any indication, the feeling will never be recaptured. My drive to plow other women and low flying birds is back.

It’s actually a good situation to be in. I would “probably” be open to sleeping with her but I have dissociated myself emotionally enough to not get dragged in if it were to happen.

She contacts me pretty much everyday. I know some of you guys will give me flack for responding, even as tersely and disinterestedly as I have. However, I came to the realization shooting the $hit with a chick says nothing about my level of interest in her. I would talk to just about anyone unless she wronged me somehow.

I got a little dirty with her the other day and said I would “fvck her brains out”. She didn’t take offense with it and spoke of when it could be arranged.

At the same time, I feel I have regained some frame but saying less and responding more slowly. Most of it has come naturally as my interest has fallen.

Part of the impetus for writing now has to do with an exchange she and I had earlier. My head would have probably exploded from this exchange when I was in her orbit a few weeks ago. Now I merely sigh and get a little rankled. Here it goes (this through e-mail):

HER: Omg didn't get any sleep last night. How are you? (she told me last night she was going to a party. Trying to get a rise out of me?)

ME: I actually feel pretty refreshed for a change.

HER: That's good! I'm in kind of a bad mood :(

HER: I lost ur phone # actually I keep accidentally deleting people's numbers (‘accidentally’ yeah and I have a bridge to sell you)

ME: Is that why you are in a bad mood? (gave my number)

HER: Hahaha no but I was kinda annoyed at that. Just some issues that got brought up from my old relationship, very emotionally abusive

ME: Oh like what?

HER: Oh idk. It was very toxic, addictive and abusive for me. I just feel like **** thinking about it

I didn’t respond and went to the gym. After the workout I came out to a frowning smiley text. A little while later I told her I didn’t want to talk about her ex boyfriend and it was none of my business. She apologized profusely over two texts and vowed to never bring him up again. This was the first time she brought him up without my prodding.

I could have told you this weeks ago, in spite of all the missteps I made with her, there never was anything here to begin with. I could have played my hand right and still wound up in the same spot. In fact, it could have been worse if I played my hand too well. I could have sunken deeper into this mess then have to deal with her ex issues once she and I were exclusive.

I just thought I would update you guys. Don’t get too nasty. I have really been much more myself since I last posted.

Thx
 
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