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Me [30 M] with hooked up twice with girl [28 F] and things were going great until grandma got really

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Went out with this girl that I really like and our date ended up becoming a full day date where we hooked up at the end. She came over 3 days later and we hooked up again and there was a lot of texting for the next few days before she got really sick.

The week after, she said her grandma and parents are flying in because grandma is really sick. For the few times that we did text, she did mention that she wanted to hang out but beyond that never really proposed a time.

Then a few days later she texts me saying that her grandma was transferred to a hospital near me and she'd like to come by and get some stuff she left at my place (earlier in the week she said 'let's coordinate')

I'm really trying to give her the benefit of the doubt here but I'm not sure. It went from really hot to really cold and I'm not sure if it's all just a bunch of excuses.

tl;dr: hooked up with girl twice and girl was very warm. She got sick and then grandma got really sick - texts/interest has virtually gone cold beyond a few 'yeah let's hang out' messages. any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Give her some space.... contact her next week to get a date and see how she's doing (health wise, and ask about grand-ma)....

If you live in a cold country like mine.... people get sick all the time lol and it makes us cold
 

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I'm almost thinking at this point that the ball is completely in her court because I tried to schedule things with her and twice she had to miss without rescheduling and then this happens.
 

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Ok... First she got sick, then her Grandpa got sick, then her grandma (who had to fly in to see said grandpa) got sick.
Too many coincidences. No information, no descriptions of what is going on, is she being very vague and ambiguous?
Women are not as good liars as they think they are from my experience.
 

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Ok... First she got sick, then her Grandpa got sick, then her grandma (who had to fly in to see said grandpa) got sick.
Too many coincidences. No information, no descriptions of what is going on, is she being very vague and ambiguous?
Women are not as good liars as they think they are from my experience.
i'm sorry i should clarify - it was the grandma only. i mistyped.

and she is actually being specific about what is going on in both occasions (how she had to miss specific events and was bedridden, etc. and the type of sickness the grandma is experiencing). this also checks out on social media (her mom from out of state was in a post with her)
 

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Ok well then, that makes more logical sense. Well, the coldness is mostly due to the illness and the stress it is likely putting on her and her family. I would assume that she had a close relationship with her grandma (I assume so because it sounds like her and her grandma live close together as her parents were the ones who flew in). Therefore, I assume that she is not going out and dating other guys or anything, that her mind is currently occupied with thoughts of her grandma.
Just give her space and see if this all passes. Do not just ditch her as she may come back when the circumstances change. Just tell her you are giving her space because you think that is best for her in this circumstance and that when she feels better that you will be there when she wants or needs company.
In the meantime date other girls, you should always be playing the field while you are single.
 

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thanks Asmo - that was extremely helpful and I think exactly what I needed to hear. Have been beating myself up over this.
 
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