When a woman tries to "out alpha you"?

[channingtatum]

I've had a few dates with a girl who absolutely tries to be the alpha. Some examples:

- First date: As she puts on her jacket, demands I hold her purse and I just look at her like hell no until she says "fine, PLEASE hold my purse".

-Second date: Tells me to give her a massage and I laugh saying she won't get one until I get one first". She ends up complying.

-Second date: Grabs my phone and adds her account to my IG. When I'm like "wtf", she says "what do you have to hide on your phone?" to try and throw me off.

Just **** like this left and right. I've been with girls who are like this and I always maintain the stronger frame, but she's to like another level. I was trying to set up a third date but she keeps trying to control it, changing what we do etc. Her last message was "I'm sure we can figure something out" on the day I proposed. I never responded nor am I sure I really want. Anyone ever experience this?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I've had a few dates with a girl who absolutely tries to be the alpha. Some examples:

- First date: As she puts on her jacket, demands I hold her purse and I just look at her like hell no until she says "fine, PLEASE hold my purse".

-Second date: Tells me to give her a massage and I laugh saying she won't get one until I get one first". She ends up complying.

-Second date: Grabs my phone and adds her account to my IG. When I'm like "wtf", she says "what do you have to hide on your phone?" to try and throw me off.

Just **** like this left and right. I've been with girls who are like this and I always maintain the stronger frame, but she's to like another level. I was trying to set up a third date but she keeps trying to control it, changing what we do etc. Her last message was "I'm sure we can figure something out" on the day I proposed. I never responded nor am I sure I really want. Anyone ever experience this?

I have no doubt $hit like this will escalate over the years.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I am going through something similar. I've learned to just let her pretend she's in charge.

The Book of Pook says to treat women like kittens. Would you get mad if a kitten gave you orders? No, you'd just think it was cute.

Letting women drag you into a power struggle drags you down to their level. You lose even when you win. The only real winning is not playing. Sand bag, let her win these little games so it builds up her confidence, and that will make it easier to fvck her later. That's how to manipulate anyone - you make them think they are the one manipulating you.

 

[channingtatum]

I am going through something similar. I've learned to just let her pretend she's in charge.

The Book of Pook says to treat women like kittens. Would you get mad if a kitten gave you orders? No, you'd just think it was cute.

Letting women drag you into a power struggle drags you down to their level. You lose even when you win. The only real winning is not playing. Sand bag, let her win these little games so it builds up her confidence, and that will make it easier to fvck her later. That's how to manipulate anyone - you make them think they are the one manipulating you.

Yea that's very true and great point. I'm torn. Having her try to "out man" me makes me laugh and extremely annoyed all at once. I keep telling myself to just navigate the waters because once we ****, she loses a lot of power. Just not sure my inner man can take it until then..

 

[sodbuster]

Go with Pook, as long as you aren't thinking she's marriage material.... if that is what you are looking for, she's not it. You will get tired of fighting all day at work, then coming home to another one

 

[C-quenced]

This is a very good question. I don't have a response but hope someone can provide some solutions on how to handle these kinds of situations.

 

[Glumix]

I am going through something similar. I've learned to just let her pretend she's in charge.

The Book of Pook says to treat women like kittens. Would you get mad if a kitten gave you orders? No, you'd just think it was cute.

Letting women drag you into a power struggle drags you down to their level. You lose even when you win. The only real winning is not playing. Sand bag, let her win these little games so it builds up her confidence, and that will make it easier to fvck her later. That's how to manipulate anyone - you make them think they are the one manipulating you.

Isn't that kind of like you fvck a man if she out-man you in bed as well? I don't know if I could keep it hard with that kind of treatment.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I would say if she is in this mindstate to "out Alpha" you, let her change your brakes, the oil on your car, and pay the bills too. Set back with your feet up.

 

[channingtatum]

I would say if she is in this mindstate to "out Alpha" you, let her change your brakes, the oil on your car, and pay the bills too. Set back with your feet up.

Haha, oh no. She's the type of girl who wants to be the alpha but also have the guy do the unpleasant man stuff too. Basically, she has an amazing rack that I want to see, outside of that she doesn't offer much to the world in terms of looks or personality. I thought about just "being the beta" to screw her and never talk to her again, but it just hurts my inner man to let her get away with her shenanigans.

 

[AllDay85]

I've had a few dates with a girl who absolutely tries to be the alpha. Some examples:

- First date: As she puts on her jacket, demands I hold her purse and I just look at her like hell no until she says "fine, PLEASE hold my purse".

-Second date: Tells me to give her a massage and I laugh saying she won't get one until I get one first". She ends up complying.

-Second date: Grabs my phone and adds her account to my IG. When I'm like "wtf", she says "what do you have to hide on your phone?" to try and throw me off.

Just **** like this left and right. I've been with girls who are like this and I always maintain the stronger frame, but she's to like another level. I was trying to set up a third date but she keeps trying to control it, changing what we do etc. Her last message was "I'm sure we can figure something out" on the day I proposed. I never responded nor am I sure I really want. Anyone ever experience this?

She just requires a strong don juan. Keep at it, she'll fold. You'll Just have some growing pains. I've been there done that with broads like this. You can funnel their energy to meet your reality. Just earn her respect and be mysterious.

 

[glass half full]

what is it about chicks with big racks doing this crap?

Well I guess it's self explanatory...

 

[sodbuster]

Just remember, that huge rack will be longer in 10 years..... probably hit her navel and she's going to have quite a belly on her..... unless they are bolt on's....then they will stay where they belong....

 

[Malcontent]

Just remember, that huge rack will be longer in 10 years..... probably hit her navel and she's going to have quite a belly on her..... unless they are bolt on's....then they will stay where they belong....

That's the bummer about big t1ts. Not LTR material.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Why even waste a millisecond on women like this? Stick with dating real women and avoid the "male wannabees" like the plague that they are.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Channing,
Simples.....Get an Asian Girl or put up with it LOL.

 

[exhausted]

Haha, oh no. She's the type of girl who wants to be the alpha but also have the guy do the unpleasant man stuff too. Basically, she has an amazing rack that I want to see, outside of that she doesn't offer much to the world in terms of looks or personality. I thought about just "being the beta" to screw her and never talk to her again, but it just hurts my inner man to let her get away with her shenanigans.

She is control freak to the worst degree, could not even hide it on the first date, did not even try is worse.

Most controlling women are spoiled brats growing up as children, meaning they remain spoiled brats as women, though dont act like a woman but most times a child.

good luck, sounds exhausting

 

[Huffman]

Why even waste a millisecond on women like this? Stick with dating real women and avoid the "male wannabees" like the plague that they are.

It can be fun to play the game though. Losing all respect for such an obnoxious woman will allow you to dominate her to hell and back. Just make sure you don't have an emotional investment.
I had some fun with a girl like that, until she really crossed the line once.

 

[The Shoe]

I've never had such an encounter. Maybe I don't see women and men as alphas. I also don't play games and wouldn't notice anyone trying to out alpha me because I don't give a ****. -- maybe that's why it is easy for me...

 

[GetFit66]

How is this alpha ? If anything it is a desperate call for attention from an immature girl who is trying to figure out where her penis went.

Beyond ratchet imo, I'd run the other way.