"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Should I Text Her?

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Just looking for some feedback. A few weeks back I went out with a girl 10 years younger. She's 25. I'm 35. Simple first date just grabbed drinks. Second date two days later. We kissed a bit. Spontaneous slow dancing to Xmas music. It was fun and she seemed really into it.

Then holidays came. We texted a little. Setup a date for Sunday after Xmas. I confirmed with her the day of then she flaked a couple hours later that she wasn't feeling well.

New Years came and we texted a little more. But it was boring and she didn't seem to be really into it, not really initiating, taking long time to text back, simple answers that didn't go anywhere.

We last texted on the 4th. I replied to a message from her about New Years. I thought it was a pretty funny/interesting response but she never replied. At the time I decided **** this and basically wrote her off unless I heard back from her.

Now I'm wondering if I overreacted and if I should reach out to her one more time to see if I can get something going. At the same time I feel like it's a waste of time and she's probably not interested and/or is with someone else... otherwise she would've engaged more.

Any thoughts or feedback from you men would be appreciated. Should I text her one last time since there's nothing to lose? Or write her off and just keep it moving?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your one last text is probably a waste of time, but you are also right, it can't really hurt anything.. If you do it I would tell her you are going to be at (place X) on (day Y) at (time Z) and ask her if she would like to join you. Anything other than a rock solid yes, I wouldn't waste another second on this woman, write her off and move on. If she happens to respond and doesn't want to date but still wants to text back and fourth, I wouldn't engage in that. If she doesn't want to date you then she doesn't deserve your good conversation.
 

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You've had two dates and her interest is low (or gone). In the unlikely event she agreed to another date, it'd probably be a waste of time. But then again, if you have time to spare... it's something to do.
 

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You've had two dates and her interest is low (or gone). In the unlikely event she agreed to another date, it'd probably be a waste of time. But then again, if you have time to spare... it's something to do.
Sometimes there is just no point. Instead, spin plates.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The reason the guys are telling you to spin plates is this. She is not that interested in you because you're so interested in her. If you meet another woman, 99℅ of the time you will desire her less. And its very hard to talk yourself into that mindset. The easiest solution - spin plates.
 
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Ok. I'm with it and agree. Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. Sometimes it's good to just hear what you're already thinking from an outside opinion.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You can desire her as much as you like as long as you don't let her know it.
 

zekko

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So basically the answer to everything is to forget about her and just "spin plates"?
Well, that is the stock SoSuave answer. That and "Hit the gym", lol.

But yeah, unfortunately she sounds pretty low interest, so there's probably not a lot of upside to pursuing it. Which means start investing elsewhere. But if you want to give it one more go, it's up to you. But I wouldn't expect too much, and like Lefty said, anything other than a hard yes I wouldn't waste anymore time on her.
 

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So are you saying you can't actually really desire a girl?
Your desire for her is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is her desire for you.

Forget about low interest chicks and move on. Spin plates. Quit useless texting. Use the phone as a tool to set up dates, then get off it. Only respond to her messages / calls. Don't initiate unless you intend to ask her on a date.

Just looking for some feedback. A few weeks back I went out with a girl 10 years younger. She's 25. I'm 35. Simple first date just grabbed drinks. Second date two days later.
Too soon. Patience, my friend.

After the first date, wait at least few days to ask for another date. She needs time to sort out her feelings.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ask her out. If she says 'yes', figure it out. If she says 'no', back off for a while. If she says 'maybe' tell her to let you know when she's free to go out.

You won't know a damned thing otherwise. So give up trying to read minds
I like the cut of your jib friend. Nice clear action oriented advice.
 
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What gives you that impression?
Gut instinct. She seemed paranoid if I was going to like her or not. I had a feeling from the beginning she was going to self sabotage any potential with us. But I could just be trying to make myself feel better and maybe she wants nothing to do with me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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