anyone with sense can see the value of having a defensive gun, even if just vs animal pests or threats. My maternal grandmother was killed by a cow and I nearly was. Dogs kill a score of people every year in the US and maul 10's of thousands more. in just the 20th century, gov't's killed over 100 million of their own people. you can be a weak wussy if you want, but smart people are not going to LET you render us helpless. we will fight YOU, early on, so we are not trying to fight govt, later, without guns or ammo to do it with. So what are you going to do about that, hmm? Nothing, that's what. So we win and you lose, as it should be, cause you're irrational