Warning: DO NOT ESCALATE IN DAY GAME + corrupt cops

[Furyguy]

Look on the bright side: You can totally cash in on this man. Chicks love a bad boy! Just wait til word gets out that you're the hardcore mother****er that got banned from the student center. You'll be drowning in a sea of pvssy my friend! Nothing turns sluts on like a restraining order.

Don't forget your biker beard and tattoos!

 

[Alle_Gory]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

A random broad complained about you harnessing someone else? Or about harassing her.

Make some sense here man!

 

[ElStud]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

A random broad complained about you harnessing someone else? Or about harassing her.

Make some sense here man!

It's a spelling error man. It happens. I expect you to have perfect spelling from now on BTW.

 

[john paul]

Warning: DO NOT TAKE ADVICE ABOUT NOT ESCALATING IN DAY GAME FrOM A CREEPY KNOW-IT-ALL UGLY MEDICALLY HANDICAPPED VIRGIN WHO DOESN'T TAKE ADVICE FROM HIS SUPERIORS AND ONLY TALKS BACK GARBAGE

I dont even feel like addressing elstud because he is just venting but you are searously messed up in the head.

"Who doesnt take adice from his superiors"
^What am i suppose to think of that? Superior? ha Your a nobody. You have terrible posts. Always negative.

Grow up and realise your not helping anyone by calling them creepy virgins. And if you honestly act in real life how you act on this board you need to seek professional help.

 

[oakraiderz2]

But who's job is it to tell me? THE POLICE and they failed to tell me. Security cameras would even MORE SO ADMIT, that I did nothing wrong.

Here's the 99% truth. Did I touch a girls hand? Yes, I am admitting this, I touched her hand. I'm PRETTY SURE she did not ask me to stop doing it either. I think the truth is, is that I went up to one girl started talking to her. She started talking to me. But THEN this random broad who I apparently talked to before and touched her hand, scolded me on touching that girls hand, even though she didn't show discomfort. So I think it's the broad that came in and scolded me who told. It wasn't until AFTER THAT, that the guy ****blocked that one set and gave me a warning and it wasn't until AFTER THAT that the police came.

One of my big arguments against this is, the girl should actually have told me to stop it if she was so calledly "uncomfortable" with it. If a girl just sits there, smiles and doesn't say sh*t, how is it MY fault if you're feeling uncomfortable? Exactly. This is like if a guy slapped a girls ass, she smiles and then later the guy learns that someone reported him making her uncomfortable. So after that guy warned me, I approached a few more sets where all I did was talk to them and conversate with them, a little about my major, but I admit I DID TELL THEM ABOUT MY SITUATION. That's ME, I'm REAL, with girls, I say what's on my mind. And if they're listening, genuinely interested and aint telling me to go away IT IS NOT HARASSMENT.

Tell me, how is having a genuine conversation HARASSMENT. What I'm pretty damn sure of is NONE OF THE GIRLS I TALKED TO, REPORTED ANYTHING ABOUT HARASSMENT. One girl I talked to, just stayed there after I talked to her. Another girl I talked to, just kept sitting there after I talked to her. ANOTHER girl I talked to, WAS IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE WHEN THE OFFICER ESCORTED ME OUT. So it isn't the girl's who felt I was harassing them, it's the eye witnesses who have no idea what they're talking about.

In that last set, it wasn't the GIRL who felt uncomfortable, it was the OFFICERS who ASSUMED, I was making the girl uncomfortable, even though she wasn't rejecting kino and we had a genuinely nice conversation. Really though, all the proof they need to see to see that the ban is BS, is video footage.

I mean, what reason do I to harass girls? I mean, getting laid isn't even that big of a deal to me. Harassment is when a girl tells you to go away and you keep talking. NONE OF THESE GIRLS TOLD ME TO GO AWAY NOR WHERE ANY OF THEM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH ME TALKING TO THEM. When a girl tells me to go AWAY, I GO. I AM NOT THE GUY WHO STAYS IN SETS AFTER THAT. This just goes to show that it's bigger BS and that I'm banned for something I didn't do.

ALL OF THIS SH*T YOU WROTE IS PROOF THAT YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SOCIAL INTERACTION. A girl isnt suppose to tell you that youre being creepy. They give you signs, which you are INCAPABLE of understanding. Its no ones job to tell you that youre a creepy stalker and that your violating norms because its something that should be implied and already understood. Its funny how you say they assume you did this when people have seen you harrassing girls. I bet you constantly hang around these girls even when theyre trying to walk away...something like this:

Enters elstud...sees hot girl studying with ipod in...thinks to self "what a perfect time to approach...approaches and get NO INTEREST. Continues to irritate girl and doesnt understand why she is cold and stand offish. Gets arressted...doesnt understand.

In all honesty, i think youre autistic.

 

[Aragon034]

This thread is legendary.

If a girl just sits there, smiles and doesn't say sh*t, how is it MY fault if you're feeling uncomfortable?

That's known as being catatonic because she's too scared to talk, and thinks if she plays along nothing will happen to her.

What state are you in? i'm getting vibes of possible racial profiling.

Now wait! hear me out, you are black right? And you are approaching women (i'd imagine white women from your prior sig) in a student center. It sucks but i can totally see people jumping to conclusions. It's YOUR job to make sure that doesn't happen though so you still f**ked up.

Family guy said it best i think. the PSA where teh lady goes "Girls, look to your left, and look to your right. Statistics show that both those men will rape you."

She looks to the left. "I won't rape you "

She looks to the right. "I might. "

 

[The Logical Player]

I dont even feel like addressing elstud because he is just venting but you are searously messed up in the head.

"Who doesnt take adice from his superiors"
^What am i suppose to think of that? Superior? ha Your a nobody. You have terrible posts. Always negative.

Grow up and realise your not helping anyone by calling them creepy virgins. And if you honestly act in real life how you act on this board you need to seek professional help.

that's weak of you to be making those assumptions about a true player, just based on the way I am trying to fire up ElStud

also, not one thing I posted wasn't true - go and try to find a post I made and tell me where I am wrong about anything

you sit there and talk smack on my words, when really all I have been saying is the simple logical truth, so back up your words or swallow them

and YES, taking advice from superiors is NECESSARY for self-improvement - some examples are listening to you personal trainer, listening to your driving teacher, listening to your college professor, as well as listening to a player who knows how to get women, and knows what creepy is and what creepy looks like, so YES i am ElStud's superior when it comes to being a Don Juan

The student is to learn from his teacher/superior about the subject at hand, and apply what he learns to improve himself - Something ElStudly does NOT EVER EVER DO

so now, after years of training in the game, ElStud's seduction skills are completely and utterly pathetic - and that is the result of not listening to his superiors (which happen to be dozens of guys who posted advice for him over the last 2 years)

 

[JHeights83rd]

Logical player, i can applaud what youre trying to do here, God knows this place they call sosymp needs it. Thats why, if you look at my post history i stopped coming here for a long long time. Too many wise cracking, internet nerds sitting from behind their computers who have no power in their real lives who now wanna get big here.

But Logicalplayer, you did come in little bit arrogant and ****, and thats not the way to win people over and get them to listen to you. But thats not the end all be all. Really though you do need to show proof of your game. Whether some audio samples, or pics what have you. People here seem to think that the more posts under your name, the more you know what youre talking about, & thats why youre getting flamed here, but also you did kind of come in just talking **** to everybody thats something i would have done differently but then again people here are dense in the head and know-it-alls so i dont know.

I dont know if elstud has Asperger Syndrome, if he does im on that **** too. But i have managed to get a few girls. Just a few. I cant keep them though.

But i use the looks that i do have and get in quickly. What happens to me is that i dont feel comfortable with my social skills when it comes time to g it up and close the deal (get the number, meet up whatever) i can convo all day though.

What keeps happening to me, is i go for the girls that are choosing, get their #s but then they dont pick up or maybe 1 time but i cant set up the meet up. That has happend over & over again for the most part.

One ofthe girls that that happend to, her friend sees me, & says 'hey ure into my friend' and the whole situation back to me.

Then she said what they talked about together about me, she said to me "she said well i dont know whats his deal b/c hes really cute but hes weird you know i cant rock with that... yeah she said that to me... and you are sexy but you just got this weirdness that makes girls wanna back off"

The weird thing has come up with guys too, except takes guys longer to see, girls are more sensitive & perceptive so they pick it up right away.

But if this is you elstud you probably will weird girls out too, & you need your looks to get you in the door and go fast, first chance you get take them to your place or their place, like i have.

And elstud stop the bull, you did something to make these girls feel uncomfortable & she was the 1 to go to the police with it, its obviously something youre not telling. Police wouldnt just do that, Trust me, me (& logical player???) are minorities and are familiar with crooked cops this is not 1 of those situations.

 

[trv26]

...YES i am ElStud's superior when it comes to being a Don Juan

Or so you claim anyway. There's no real proof of that now is there?

 

[rushing dude 123]

I have actually been weary of this happening to me dude, because to b honest it could happen to any guy who did what u did, but it has and never will happen to me. This is due to obeying the rule "do not piss in ur own pool". In Uni, college, work is it really such a great idea to escalate with every person there?, because to b honest in this type of situations best to take it nice and slow instead of cold approaching and trying to get every girls number. The following will just happen

1. the ones who reject u, could bring awkwardness and if done extrmely badly could get u fired or the cops on ur ass and a ban. ps: also girls talk....a lot.

2. Destroys ur rep, do u think girls really want a guy hitting on every single girl in the uni, it totally takes ur value and makes u look desperate.

3. U succeed and u go on dates or what not, if done with many girls u appear has the schools man ***** and girls will try to avoid u like "2" or it will go well and u will end up in sticky situations due to commitment to a girl and not being able to approach any more, fawked once again.


Dude u approached u said a "100" girls r u kidding, thats like pretty much the whole HB 5-6+ girl base of ur uni. This is not the girls faults it was going to happen if any guy on this forum did it. This does not mean stop day game. It means rather focusing on quantity focus on quality. With girls i work with i never ever once asked them out, i asked the ones out i liked when they were leaving. This way i don't fall in any of the boxes 1-3.

Uni is a bit different, but just b friendly, get a positive vibe and then escalate. Instead of escalating the whole sparta army of women in ur school. This way ur sociability on people u do not know well is a bit more than average, but not into the creepy section. Uni game imo is more about the long game, seeing yesterdays cold approach would probablly b sitting next to u next semestiar for the whole year.

I would prescribe a 2 weeks dose of maybe 1 girl to actually hit on in cold approach style if it looks like a really good set. Then just b social to all the other girls within ur range (shes sitting next to u, shes on ur team in a project) and then u got social circles and these girls u can just come over and talk to when ever u want and when the attraction has hit the roof over time take the girl out.

Approaching on a street in day is fine b free to approach 100 women, but remember don't do it to often in one area and no where local, that way u will probs never see these chicks every again unless u got the number haha. I admire ur courage for approaching, but u got to b smart about these things 2 or things could b much worst than this time.


Hm kinda lot of information my bad, Hope that helps though, but to b honest things r going to b extremly difficult now....considering what happened. Take this has a learning experience and do not repeat it again.

 

[daygameguy]

I don't know, I feel like he does need some support. He is definitely miscalibrated socially which is why the girls feel uncomfortable. Its called escalation because you need to judge their comfort levels as you are doing it. I think its your problem of running too many random sets and looking like a guy selling something, instead of feeling what exactly you want in a girl and then talking to her to test if she has those qualities.

But regardless of your personal lack of game, I think we all can agree that sometimes people DO tend to fvck your game up because they see a loop hole which they can further distort for their sadistic pleasure, like a random guy trying his luck once YOU open a set, like a completely insane ****blocker, fvcked up security, etc..

But life has to go on. You need to man up. When the going gets tough the ElStuds get going.. lol jk dude

 

[john paul]

that's weak of you to be making those assumptions about a true player, just based on the way I am trying to fire up ElStud

also, not one thing I posted wasn't true - go and try to find a post I made and tell me where I am wrong about anything

you sit there and talk smack on my words, when really all I have been saying is the simple logical truth, so back up your words or swallow them

and YES, taking advice from superiors is NECESSARY for self-improvement - some examples are listening to you personal trainer, listening to your driving teacher, listening to your college professor, as well as listening to a player who knows how to get women, and knows what creepy is and what creepy looks like, so YES i am ElStud's superior when it comes to being a Don Juan

The student is to learn from his teacher/superior about the subject at hand, and apply what he learns to improve himself - Something ElStudly does NOT EVER EVER DO

so now, after years of training in the game, ElStud's seduction skills are completely and utterly pathetic - and that is the result of not listening to his superiors (which happen to be dozens of guys who posted advice for him over the last 2 years)

You call me out on my assumptions? You enjoy making pretty huge assumptions about guys when they have girl problems. Usually something about them being creepy or nerdy or a combination of the two.


haha oh my mistake for not realising you were just "firing him up" when you cut him down and then you compare yourself to a college professor. My college professors often peform the same technique on me when im not understanding something. "Are you dumb in the head boy?" always works wonders in the learning process.


Taking advice is important... but why does it have to be advice from SUPERIORS? Why cant it just be advice from other guys. You enjoy your little ego trips by calling your SUPERIOR.

And you want to know something that is more important that taking advice when it comes to learning? Forming your own opinions. Thinking for yourself. Learning from mistakes. Not brainlessly following orders from SUPERIORS.


But im obviously not going to get through to you, I just wanted to express my distaste for you because your going about this the wrong way.

 

[Rhoto]

This thread is legendary.

Yes it is.

 

[WesCottII]

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Seriously. HahahahahaHahahahahaHahahahahaHahahahaha

I remember when this fool got thrown out of Abercrombie and Fitch for being creep, and now he's just topped his own creepiness.

I'm not even going to try and reason with him and show him why his whole mindset is warped, I'm going to sit back, let him continue to epically fail and laugh my arse off about it.

This guy can't be real. This is some genious comedian, who's created this ElStid character just for our amusement. I swear it.


EDIT: FR: ElStud style
Just for the laughs.

 

[The Logical Player]

This guy can't be real. This is some genious comedian, who's created this ElStud character just for our amusement. I swear it.

ElStud = Borat????

actually its funny, because for anyone who has seen the Borat movie or clips of Borat on youtube, you will see that essentially, Borat "fails" in the same exact way as Elstud does when it comes to interactions with the opposite sex

 

[Truman181]

If you escalate well with 99 girls, but 1 feels uncomfortable YOU ARE F*CKED. And the reason why I say that is, if the one girl REPORTS that you made her feel uncomfortable, you are screwed.

Why the fvck do you make so many approaches??? All you need is ONE good one.

The game ISN'T about endlessly trolling for girls your ENTIRE life. Take note: bootcamps lead by Mystery, Juggler, RSD, hell even the Don Juan Bootcamp are all temporary missions to get you to become a social person, they are NOT a lifestyle.

Like I said you only need ONE good approach and then you can get yourself a girlfriend or fvck buddy. If your goal is multiple fvck buddies (like a harem) then you need to be a guy who has a big social circle so you have access to multiple women socially. <----this is SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE!

I repeat: The goal is NOT to approach thousands of women year after year, the goal is to become a social guy who knows a lot of women socially and a guy who is good at escalation.

 

[GQ_Confidence_1]

I've had a ton of interactions with women randomly...at college, at malls, on airplanes, saying hi to girls walking their dogs, etc.

It's very easy, never even thought about cops or anything like that. If people are going to the cops, you're creeping them out. I dont think there's any other possibility.

-There's the stranger/salesman approach. It doesnt look much different than someone with a clipboard, or someone with samples on the street passing them out. Escalating after a sales approach is going to increase a girls "creep o meter". You dont have rapport. Like a salesman that doesnt leave you alone.

Either through touching or getting closer in her personal space. If thats the approach 100 times, then 1 probably will tell the cops/police, or you'll get complaints. Just because a girl doesnt complain, doesnt mean you're doing it right.

-Then the rapport approach. Very different than salesman/stranger. You're not "Selling anything". You're not in that mode. Rapport approach is talking about nothing, trades bits of information back and forth.

Then you're in this "rapport bubble". *Then* escalate, kino. Touching girls hands in college without rapport, or social awareness, social intelligence...it probably will look creepy.

I think instead of constantly doing approaches, just step back and look at how people interact on campus.

 

[WesCottII]

Nah, let him continue what he's doing.

This stuff is gold. I wonder what he'll get upto next week?

An old woman hitting him over the head with her handbag for harrassing her grandaughter? Trying, and failing to take candy from a baby?

From now on, Elstud should be known as CLB - standing for Creepy Little Bastard

 

[The Logical Player]

Nah, let him continue what he's doing.

This stuff is gold. I wonder what he'll get upto next week?

An old woman hitting him over the head with her handbag for harrassing her grandaughter? Trying, and failing to take candy from a baby?

From now on, Elstud should be known as CLB - standing for Creepy Little Bastard

somebody like Stone Cold Steve Austin

 

[WesCottII]

I couldn't be arsed to credit him to be honest, and the name seemed to fit for this CLB anyway.