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The FINAL WORD on penis size

Spirit Fingers

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Hey guys,

I noticed that there was a big thread debating penis size going around here...with a lot of guys starting their views, but with no clear resolution.

So, I've decided to re-post one of my newsletters here where I deal with this issue. Here is the FINAL WORD on sex from a professional sex coach. If you're tired of reading random anonymous opinions on the internet, and want to know the real deal with penis size...you should check this out:

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QUESTION FROM A READER:

Hey Dan,

A quick question for you: Does size matter?

I don’t consider myself bad in bed, but sometimes I feel that I could use a few extra inches. After all, a bigger **** can hit spots that a smaller **** just can’t. I think that a big part of “sexual mastery” is to have a big ****, so what can guys who aren’t so well endowed do to compare to bigger guys?

K.C.

MY RESPONSE:

Does size matter? Yes and no, but mostly no.

There’s myths out there that larger ****s provide better physical stimulation (”hit spots that a smaller **** can’t). This simply isn’t true.

Think about the vibrators and dildos that are sold for women to masturbate with. The vast majority of dildos that are sold are between five and six inches, with proportional girth — the size of an average penis. The twelve inch monster ****s are relegated to the joke section.

You can see then, that a bigger **** doesn’t provide any extra physical stimulation. Otherwise, women would choose larger sized sex toys.

However, having a big **** does have value because it provides the girl with extra psychological stimulation (Dominance). That is, a girl feels more dominated when she is ****ed by a larger **** than by a smaller one. And this is good if you’re well endowed, because dominance is one of the four dimensions of great sex.

But — the amount of dominance a large **** provides is insignificant compared to the amount of dominance you can provide in other ways. Dirty talk, manhandling, orgasm control — all of these things far overshadow penis size in determining how dominant you are in bed.

So then, why is penis size such a frequent insecurity among men? The reason is that it is a vicious cycle among guys who don’t get laid very much. Their only sexual outlet is internet porn, which almost always features guys with freakishly large ****s. Seeing that size is the measure of your worth in the porn world, they begin to think that size is the measure of your worth in the real world too. This causes them to become insecure about their merely average sized penis.

When they do have sex with a girl, their insecurities ruin their immersion. That is, they start to think and worry in bed, instead of just enjoying the experience and being in the moment. This makes them perform poorly in bed.

But, they don’t recognize that the reason why they are performing poorly is because of their insecurities caused by this limiting belief. Instead, they take their sexual failure as evidence that their beliefs about penis size are true.

They then go back and masturbate to porn that stars guys with even bigger ****s, and the vicious cycle continues.

Don’t get caught in this cycle. If you haven’t been performing as well as you’d like in bed, recognize that this is caused by your insecurities, not your penis size.

Now, I recognize that eliminating a deep-set limiting belief like this is not as simple as simply knowing that it isn’t true on a logical level. You have to debunk the limiting belief on a deep, emotional level in order to eliminate its hold on you.

That’s why in The Sex God Method, I give a definitive strategy for overcoming this and five other prevalent limiting beliefs which hold you back from achieving your full potential in bed. You’ll learn what beliefs are harming you in bed, and exactly how to put them to rest.

There is also an entire section devoted to the different ways to establish dominance in bed. You’ll learn methods of making a girl feel erotically dominated that will rock her world. This knowledge will elevate you far above other guys — even guys who have larger penises than you. The dominance provided by their extra couple of inches will seem like nothing compared to the dominance provided by your sexual skills.
 

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A female ONLY notices size if they guy is unusually small or unusually large. It's actually better to be a little under average size than extremely big because if a guy is big it can cause pain which is not at all enjoyable. So...unless you are really, really small or really, really big stop worrying about it. PLEASE stop worrying about it because I am SO SICK of getting spam email asking me if I want the big dyck fairy to come visit me every freaking day. Every women gets that spam and to be perfectly honest...it kinda makes men as a whole seem extremely insecure about this issue...and women DO NOT CARE or even notice unless your size is really abnormal. STOP WORRYING ABOUT SIZE!!!!!
 

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Spirit Fingers is so insecure about his penis size that he has to make this post. Alright dude, the truth is...women love large penises. No Sh!t just like how men like Hot Porno Women with nice butts and huge tits. Women are perfectly fine with whatever size the guy is unless he is super 2 inch small (like what Wyldfire said.)
 

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Too big is actually worse than being a little on the smaller side. If a guy is big you have to focus too much on being careful so it doesn't really hurt...takes a lot of the fun out of it.
 

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Wyldfire, It hurts because they are uncircumcised.
 

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Wyldfire said:
Too big is actually worse than being a little on the smaller side. If a guy is big you have to focus too much on being careful so it doesn't really hurt...takes a lot of the fun out of it.
She's right on this. I'm only an inch above so-called average, and i have to be careful during an O, because if i "use it all" at that point, I usually hit bottom and hurt her with it. And it really sucks having to hold back at that moment when your instinct is to want to drive it home. So I sometimes wish I didn't have to "hold back" every single time.
 

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Nice post.



I guess the next debate would have to be on wether circumsition is better than being non-circumsized.


I wonder what the women have to say.
 

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You see a guys penis size insecurity is the same as when a chicks says are my boobs too small.

Like we really care if her boobs are too small now dont we ? If we're getting some from her we dont really care, now same thing about penis size if shes getting off on it then she doesnt care at all.
 

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I meant circumcised. Wyldfire only dates 'cut' men, which means she is more likely to experience painful sex, especially if the guy is large.

http://www.cirp.org/news/ABCnews03-12-01/

A 1999 study published in the British Journal of Urology involved 139 women who offered answers about sex with men with and without foreskins. In the end, the results showed more than half the women who filled out the surveys felt that sex with uncircumcised men was more enjoyable because they experienced more pleasure and less discomfort.
 

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Study of 139 women in a small localized area of the world? Don't mind me if I take those results with a grain of salt (and more like ignore them completely). Especially since they just say "more than half". How much more? 1 more?

Most women prefer a man to be on the large size of the spectrum. Freakishly large is obviously not good... but I've seen tons of actual studies (ie: than 139 people) where the women all say they prefer a larger man.

P.S.
The respondents were not selected randomly and several were recruited using a newsletter put out by an anti-circumcision organization.
Coffin, meet nail.
 

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http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77373

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uncircumcised penii are fabulous
i dont think i could ever completely enjoy intercourse with a cut man now that my last two boyfriends have been uncircumcised (and the best sex of my life.) if i were to ever give birth to male children i also wouldnt have them circumcised either.
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It's the slippy feeling. Circumsized are taut but the loose turtleneck bunches and slips in all the right places.
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i agree. my man is uncut, and its pretty nice.



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I'm going to have to agree with Optimist on this one. Have only had one uncut (the recently mentioned frenchman) and there was definitely a difference.
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Ditto...
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Same here, it also makes hj's and bj's a lot more fun for the both of you.
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I prefer uncut myself.
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Yum yum

Me too. I swear this is why American men seem to have a need for rougher sex - numb ****s.

Oooh I want one. Where do you find them??? BEST SEX I EVER HAD!!!! Oooh now I'm mad most guys are circumcised here. I wanna cry.
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Small rant - IT'S NOT UNCUT! It's INTACT! Can you un-cut something?! Can you un-cut paper?! How is it UNcut when that's how it is in it's natural state?! - rant over....


Anyway,

It's SO much better yes!! Oh gawd. BJs and HJs are MUCH easier to give, for one... and two, it slides so nicely and rubs so very...very....very well.
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Re: uncircumcised penii are fabulous
I agree , the best I ever had was my ex and he was not circumsized.
Check the thread, sure there are a couple of pro-circumcisioners, but they are vastly out-numbered by those saying they prefer it, and sex is better as nature intended.
 

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I went through a few pages of it, here's what I seem to see:

- Looks like slightly more than half prefer uncut.
- The ones that prefer uncut will gladly sleep with a cut man.
- The ones that dislike uncut will sometimes not even touch the guy if he's not cut. They typically are grossed out.

I saw a couple stories in there with women turning away the man after he took off his pants because they just couldn't imagine doing anything with him.

Also for all we know, lots of these stories about the uncut guy being better in the sack might just be due to his sexual prowess. We aren't seeing any sizable sample size here at all.
 

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Nighthawk...this thread is not about foreskin...so please take your silly foreskin crusade elsewhere.

Furthermore...repeatedly pointing out that I find foreskin repulsive does not make me feel even remotely guilty. It never will. I'm not in the least bit ashamed that I will not touch a penis with foreskin. I don't care who it pisses off, either. You wouldn't have sex with a 500lb obese woman because to you, obese women are repulsive. Likewise, I wouldn't have sex with a man with foreskin because I find foreskin repulsive. Yep, it's shallow...but too bad. I am a shallow person and am quite comfortable with my shallowness. If it bothers you...too bad. Your views don't influence my personal choices or preferences at all and they never will...no matter how often you bring it up.
In fact, I'd rather have sex with a man with a 2 inch cut penis than a large uncut penis. Okay, now that we've cleared up the fact that your foreskin crusade is a waste of time, space and bandwidth...let's get back on topic.
 

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Who said I'm trying to make you feel guilty? I'm just saying that if you hadn't been conditioned to find mutilated genitals 'normal' you might enjoy a big fat cock a bit more. Just trying to help;)
 

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As she stated herself, there are shallow women in the world nighthawk, so you might as well just accept it.

Take comfort in the fact that the majority of women focus on normal items that consitute "looks" such as one's height, build, facial features, and, if they must, the size of their penis. To call her an outlier for worrying about whether its cut or not, as a breaking point item, would be an understatement to say the least.

The expression "bumping uglies" came from somewhere and was named such, i suspect, for a reason.
 

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Nighthawk said:
Who said I'm trying to make you feel guilty? I'm just saying that if you hadn't been conditioned to find mutilated genitals 'normal' you might enjoy a big fat cock a bit more. Just trying to help;)
It has nothing to do with "conditioning"...it has everything to do with what I find aesthetically pleasing. If there were no such thing as circumcision I would not have children and would die a virgin because I honestly find foreskin THAT disgusting.
 

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Spirit Fingers said:
Think about the vibrators and dildos that are sold for women to masturbate with. The vast majority of dildos that are sold are between five and six inches, with proportional girth — the size of an average penis. The twelve inch monster ****s are relegated to the joke section.
What is your source on that? I mean, I'm guessing the average vibrator is probably somewhere around ~5.5"-<8", but I don't know what the actual average size is?

Anyhow, for argument's sake, let's just say the average size IS 5"-6" - doesn't that mean that size DOES matter - if women prefer a size in this range? I mean, if women choose 6" dildos over 12" ones - isn't that a size preference?
Spirit Fingers said:
You can see then, that a bigger **** doesn’t provide any extra physical stimulation. Otherwise, women would choose larger sized sex toys.
Well, can't you apply that same argument towards the other end of the scale:

"You can see then, that a smaller **** doesn’t provide any extra physical stimulation. Otherwise, women would choose smaller sized sex toys."

Doesn't the argument you use to "prove" how women prefer "average" kawks to supersized ones...also "prove" how they prefer "average" kawks to "undersized" ones?

In other words, you are not really arguing here that "size doesn't matter," just that an average size is better than a huge size.

So, your "final word" here is really still that size does matter - that there's an optimal range that women statistically prefer.
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The REAL reason why size shouldn't matter to you is because YOU should be the Prize, the chooser, not the chosen.

Do you go to a car lot to buy a new car worrying about how well you can drive? H3LL NO. The only thing you're worried about is how good the CAR is.

The ROOT PROBLEM in this country is that WOMEN HAVE BECOME THE PRIZE and men are stressing over every minute detail to QUALIFY ourselves to them. The real problem here is thus not SIZE...but who has the POWER OF CHOICE.

And unfortunately, we gave that power to women here over the last generation...
 
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Yeah, Wayword pretty much owned you all.

Though women have been the prize in North America for a long time now. Think about courtship in the 40's and 50's for example? Men would bring them flowers and court them, ask to go steady etc.

Now, back a few thousand years ago before civilization... a woman HAD to find a good man or she'd basically be left to fend for herself in the wild. Men were the prize.
 

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@ wayward, spiritual fingers

Comparing dildos to c0cks only makes sense when talking about physical stimulation. What is left out is the psychological element, which is of major importance. Large c0ck = dominance. This we can take as a psychological fact. Large dildo = no psychological meaning whatsoever.
 
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This is so g*y! Who the hell cares? If a chick is so shallow and judges by what your d*ck size or if your uncircumcised or not (ex. Wyldfire) she's not worth your time. It's the same as guy judging a chick by her hair color.

To Wyldfire actually what your discriminating is race or height. It's something that people can't change unless they take drastic measures, so it's not the same as me not choosing to poke fat chicks. Fat chicks stay fat cuz they want to and weight is something they can change simply by exercise and diet.

5 in or smaller your SMALL GET OVER IT.
Around 6 in is average or normal.
Ideal according to women is 6 in to 8 in!
Over 6.5 in is BIG! GOOD FOR YOU.
Over 8 in your a FREAK.
 
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