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Routine for shoulders?

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Face pulls?
Shrugs?
Upright rows?
Never done them. Shrugs are good, yes, but HSPUs work your traps as well, face pulls and especially upright rows are kind of unnatural movements for me
 

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Shoulders are not a large muscle group. They don't need special attention. Beach / Row superset hits them. Just throw in overhead press and you're good.

I'm partial to trap bar deadlifts as well, since shrugs was mentioned.
 

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Shoulders are not a large muscle group. They don't need special attention. Beach / Row superset hits them. Just throw in overhead press and you're good.
I agree with this, when it gets right down to it. In actuality, the only real results I ever got with shoulders specifically were from presses above the head, regardless of the type. They add width that other things can't. Similar to how squats and deads add a certain 'look' to your body. It's hard to really explain.

I don't mind the other isolation exercises, maybe they add some depth or something, but I've never had results with them.
 
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