Originally posted by tristan22
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Are you really as stupid as you appear. Before misconstruing my words, please thoroughly read them. My post was directed towards mans stupidity and lack of appreciation for money ( EX: People waste money on ridiculous things, they live pay check to pay check, and they try to keep up with the Jones, even if that means going in debt).
I'm not advocating thievery and dishonesty, i'm just pointing out examples, so get off of my jock!
Actually that's how it came accross.
"People are stupid I'm surprized i haven't had an idea to take advantage of them."
Then you sited examples of people "you know" that cheat the system. You never mentioned anything positive or constructive connected to your being surprized you haven't had an idea yet. or your business aspirations.
Ya so I agree with what he said as the way what you said was put. That's why I didn't respond when you made that post about how to start a business about 2 weeks ago. Same sentiments with someone I just talked to. And I suspect that was the reason for everyone's lack of posting to help you.
Watch what you say man. Even if it was a mistake. Some people ferociousely guard and defend integrity if something seems like it might remotely attack it.
And as for an offshoot commentary about that screw over mindset that your post came accross as even if you didn't mean it. This is for anyone who has that "ooooh im bad im gonna screw over everyone attitude" that i've actually heard when some kid was trying to impress me before. So I know its out there:
"48 Laws of Power" is stories told of midievil courts. And anarchist situations where there was no order to prevent people from iniating force upon one another. Written by some literary nerd. Save it for politics, kings courts and or if you work in the drug trade.
Real quality businesses dont work that way And if deceitful, sneaky, manipulative people creep into a company. Yeah sure their ways might be able to leverage themselves up a position or two. But guess what, it rots the organization from the inside and is certain to reap what it sows. That's why nothin ever gets done in gov't. Everyone's watchin their backs and most of their time is spent trying to find a way to manipulate the manipulative opponent. And can't focus on results. Same thing here, if everyone's watchin their back the new companies come on up and cream the old arrogant one with the full force of business cooperation.
Are their manipulative people who are out there to prey on people who have some decent coin. Yup, but i'd rather not live in a world with people like that. They belong in jail. And theirs much more people who are wealthy with integrity.
Want to learn the right attitude read "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill. Then study the lives of some of the great 20th century entrepreneurs. For most of them integrity was the prime target the cornerstone of their business. Carnegie, Jack Welch, firestone, JC Penney. You look at the businessmen who had downfalls you'll see someone trying to hold positions of power without earning it, or trying to cut people down to hold power.
Things have a way of evening themselves out.
And ya Integrity is all we've got. It's one of the reasons that America is such an economic powerhouse.
You try to do business in other countries bribing inspectors and making sweet deals with gov't officials is just commonplace. In Russia anyone who has success in business has to watch his back or he'll get iced by a competitor. And while their doing that places that have lower coruption get to focus working together and bring out as much value as possible to get that equivalent $$$ in return.
