PUA's Uncovered... women know what you're upto

[Mad Manic]

so has anyone else besides me noticed that Mystery looks like a tranvestite and there is no proof of him ever scoring with a hottie that wasn't scripted?

There's two vids mate, one where he plows through **** tests and one where he opens in a club and then has a hot blonde putty in his hands. Along with the fact that how would he get away with being a top PUA after 15 years if he isn't one ...

 

[Thorns]

Well that's a shame, I was really looking forward to talking with her, but it seems that she's taken off after two posts.
Claiming someone is mentally ill needs some sort of proof to be taken seriously. I'm rather curious as to why she does this mass heavy marketing while telling everyone that she just wants to help? This is really starting to smell more like a marketing ploy for the insecure of both sexes.
I do not deny that there isn't content in this forum that could be used either way, but that is ultimately an individual's choice. Women are renown for talking about relationships and giving advice on every stage of a relationship, now so are men, and we are getting rather good at it. I think that this is what is really scaring some, and looking like an excellent way to make money for others.
I'm all for staying away from the psychopaths she describes, but that doesn't mean women can judge all men right off the bat as evil.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Well that's a shame, I was really looking forward to talking with her, but it seems that she's taken off after two posts.

Well, I'm back from Bermuda, take a look at my awesome tan! :moon:

.... I'm rather curious as to why she does this mass heavy marketing while telling everyone that she just wants to help? This is really starting to smell more like a marketing ploy for the insecure of both sexes.
I do not deny that there isn't content in this forum that could be used either way, but that is ultimately an individual's choice. Women are renown for talking about relationships and giving advice on every stage of a relationship, now so are men, and we are getting rather good at it. I think that this is what is really scaring some, and looking like an excellent way to make money for others.

There lies the problem with a ton of professionals in the social services, they tend to polarize the problems between "us" and "them" in that the solution is very "them" focused; and rightly so. However, there are more of "us" than there are of "them" at least in the subsets used in studies or those requesting professional help. That being the case, in order to give credence to the study more of "us" are engaged. And you pegged it, what better way to engage people than leveraging their personal fears of inequality or fair play? Kinda falls into the whole "Golden Rule" belief being debated in another thread, don'cha think?

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I'm all for staying away from the psychopaths she describes, but that doesn't mean women can judge all men right off the bat as evil.

"Us" and "them," "us" and "them..."

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

TP, er DP.

 

[ketostix]

Hello Gentlemen! Am very willing to discuss this as long as it stays civil and educational for BOTH of us. I'm not interested in an assault....

I am a psychotherapist, author, and researcher in the field of psychopathology. I began my career working in homicide--with family members of murder victims. I then worked in the area of women's sexual assault, followed by working in psychopathology with BOTH men and women who are permanently disordered. Today, I am involved in the first ever research project of women who have been in intimate relationships with psychopaths. I am trained in hypnosis and some NLP.

This is probably too long to completely and adequately discuss here which is a sociological view at the increasing 'general publics' pathological behaviors implying an increase in a pathological world view and culture. The reason that's important is there are many research oriented organizations that are tracking the frequent use of behaviors that use to be seen only in pathologically disordered people which is now being seen in the general public with increasing frequency. For quite some time, the whole issue of PUA's has been quietly (and maybe not so quietly -- LOL~) studied.

The reason it is studied is multi-faceted---but can include: some of the behaviors taught by PUA's resembles pathology-based behaviors, the use of NLP/Hypnosis in female populations outside of clinical use, a sometimes callous and disconnected view of women by PUA's which seems to be strongly focused on 'scoring,' and certainly Mystery has certainly tainted to view of 'men's relationship coaching' with his own mental illness. This is by far not the only list and I"m just skimming over it briefly here.

PUA's are not the only area of study regarding the spread of pathological-like behaviors and belief systems now seen frequently in the culture. But it is ONE area and it seems like some of you are asking 'why' the concern about your 'training' from outsiders like us---this is part of it, at least from the clinical field. Since this is about your personal relationships, I don't expect that the research associated with what we are looking at will have much interest to outsiders.

On a more personal side, I have been providing counseling to women who have been in dangerous relationships with men who use various tactics that have been damaging. Warning women about the misuse of NLP, hypnosis and 'training' that might be misused against them, is relevant for what I do in counseling. If you aren't involved in that kind of misuse in a relationship, then we are on the same page.

Additionally, since we do advocate for women understanding the effects of mental illness on relationships, Mystery's mental illness and him being 'qualified' in any sense to offer 'relationship coaching' (if that's what you want to call it) does raise red flags for an organization that tries to help women avoid damaging relationships. I wouldn't advocate for women to date men with serious mental health issues (nor do I advocate for men to date women with serious mental health issues) so I wouldn't advocate for women to date men who have been 'coached' by someone with serious mental health issues.

And yes, I do also work with men who have been in relationships with pathologically disordered women. I have an e-book that helps men distinguish between healthy women to date and women whose disorders are likely to become a dating hazard (www.DateBetterWomenNow.com).

My clinical background in research and mental health probably gives me a different view point here---but if you have been curious as to what is going on in the clinical field regarding this (and other areas that are being studied) then there you have it. Hope this provides some useful information.

From reading your post it is very clear that you are a feminist. You have a very gender-centric view point and are clueless about normal male psyche. Maybe you're the one with the mental illness-the illness of feminism.

 

[Thorns]

I wouldn't bag on feminism just yet. I believe that feminism does has its many uses, though it often is filled with these radicals that want to destroy any self-confident successful man out there. Women supporting women is perfectly acceptable, so why isn't men supporting men? I've talked about this before and been labeled as sexist because I want to help other guys out! What the hell? If it wasn't for this site I'd still be lost in the abyss that is female reasoning.

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to mention that on all of her official sites and marketing ploys, she only mentions damaged women. NEVER damaged men, apparently we are immune to the pains of relationships and having our hearts ripped out. AHAHAHA!!! Lucky us! We are emotionless ****s.