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EyeBRollin

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You are an empty shill for conspiracy theories and myopic world views. I bet you're something in dorm room bull sessions.

The world is a complicated place junior. Not one where republicans do evil so you can swallow fantastic stories.
Taking from the poor to give to the rich isn't "evil," it is self-interested. Lying about it is evil. That's not exclusive to Republicans; Democrats have plenty of blood on their hands as well.
 

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@EyeBRollin It was not the impact of the plane crashing that destroyed the towers. The towers could easily take the physical impact, in fact if you watch the video you will see that the actual impact and initial explosion did not cause the buildings to topple. It was the hot burning jet fuel which caused a fire that weakened parts of the structure. This weakening causes building to buckle and collapse under its vertical mass, which makes it look like it is a demoltion. I have worked in construction in many areas since I was 18 for 9 years now... I know what I am talking about.
Conspiracy theorists...
Wow.

That would require complete failure of the building insulation and fire suppression suppression system. Even then, heat deformation of the structural members would not cause the building to have a pancake collapse. The science on this has already been settled.

All you can really do is look at people like this and speculate where their weakness (for which they are so insecure) lies.

Just so I'm clear....EyeBRollin.....I'm talking ABOUT you, not TO you.
The weakness lies in blindly believing what the U.S. government and corporate media tell you, despite visual and scientific evidence staring you in the face.
 

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Wow.

That would require complete failure of the building insulation and fire suppression suppression system. Even then, heat deformation of the structural members would not cause the building to have a pancake collapse. The science on this has already been settled.

The weakness lies in blindly believing what the U.S. government and corporate media tell you, despite visual and scientific evidence staring you in the face.
What "scientific evidence"? You, a 'civil engineer' (first or second year of community college?) watch a YouTube video sound-traced with ominous music and declare the collapses as 'controlled demolition' "without question" and "settled science". Declarative reality is for simps junior. NEWSFLASH - You typing something does not make it true.

You like your paranoid delusions. They suit your mouth-breather IQ. You can believe you, maybe some of your dorm room bull session buddies. Stick with them. There are thinking adults posting here. You have no cred.
 

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Taking from the poor to give to the rich isn't "evil," it is self-interested. Lying about it is evil. That's not exclusive to Republicans; Democrats have plenty of blood on their hands as well.
Who "took" what from the poor?
What does that have to do with anything in his thread other than you waving a red herring because you are getting your ass kicked here?
 
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"The right" makes the claim that the media leans left. That is nonsense. The media is corporate.

Correct, but it was the "conservative" justices of the Supreme Court that ruled money is speech, further opening up the floodgates to corrupt campaign financing. It was already there, but it is only going to get worse.

The Federal government isn't the problem; the two-party system with corrupt campaign financing is. Though not perfect, other countries have figured this out. Limited Federal government doesn't work and never did work. The Federal government is the only entity strong enough to contain capitalism.
Gar, another one here on sosuave... maybe the same one as last time. Will try to keep this out of the political and stick mostly to semantics.

1. FYI, PETA is "corporate," the Teamsters are "corporate," SEIU is "corporate," Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter, ThinkProgress, ALL "corporate." It is a sign of commercial and legal ignorance to equate "corporate" with the RW or "capitalism" or Wall Street. It's kind of understandable, as MSM/Hollywood and govedu subjects us to a constant barrage of anticommercial messages and has for decades. Schools teach us that Lincoln was a savior and Carnegie was a robber, that JP Morgan was the epitome of greedy Wall Street despite that Morgan did FAR more for the country than any single President or politician. Saying "they are corporate owned" as evidence of anything? Vapid.

There are 30 million business concerns in the US, most of them "corporate" in some way or another. Everything from the "corporation" that creates "The View" and "The Rachel Maddow Show" to Rush Limbaugh's EIB network. Everything from your plumber to your nail salon to your doctor to your mattress salesman. All corporate, so if you learn nothing else from this post, learn that among knowledgeable people, "corporate" is just a word representing a certain set of legal concepts ingrained in our law for centuries. It is an epithet or a boogey man rallying cry only among the ignorant.

2. While it is true that the left has morphed from radical libertarian to a very bland oatmeal bureau statist gov edu union contractor grantee MSM Complex over the last 40 years, it uses the exact same propaganda tools to accomplish its goals. It is absurd to call people who think gays are some oppressed class in the US, that feminism is based on facts, that illegal immigration is desirable policy, that there is real oppression or hunger in the US, etc., "centrist." It's comical to do that actually. We are aware that the teeny tiny eensy weensy OECD all white, oil rich socialist darlings like Norway are more socialist than the US, but that doesn't make what goes on here "centrist" by a long shot.

3. You can call it left, right, whatever semantics you like. The fact is that in the US, there is a beset upon, hyperregulated private sector that is asked to pay pay and pay some more for a gigantic parasitic Complex comprised of the aforesaid groups and outright government dependents, breeding more and more every day and encouraged to do so at your local DFACS office. That Complex represents machine politics that doesn't give two Fs for what is right or what is smart, what is best for the future, but only for what can be grabbed hand over fist the fastest. The government mob in the US makes Tammany Hall look tame and Paulie Walnuts look civilized.

Oh, and PS, you should look into the actual facts behind the Citizens United case. It was a backlash to biased courts allowing Michael Moore's plainly political advertising oriented films near elections but not RW films. If Citizens United had been given the same "free speech/entertainment" protection as the Left, the case would have never been petitioned to SCOTUS. I know you don't know any of this because no leftist ever bothers to look at the facts behind their constantly repeated advertisements, such as "CU made politics all about money." That's a line your union hall is feeding you and you bought it without question. Dig a little deeper next time.
 
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if you favor the illegals and taking my guns, you're not just a liberal, you're my sworn enemy. Same if you want to take more of my money.
 

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What I want to know is... who the hell is the establishment lol

I've never heard hat word used more than I have the last two months

Apparently

1, no one is in it
2, everyone hates it
3. Every one accuses the other guy of being in it
4. They are the bad guy in literally every argument and the answer to all our problems is getting rid of it
 

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What I want to know is... who the hell is the establishment lol

I've never heard hat word used more than I have the last two months

Apparently

1, no one is in it
2, everyone hates it
3. Every one accuses the other guy of being in it
4. They are the bad guy in literally every argument and the answer to all our problems is getting rid of it
I'm part of it. We're not accepting new members right now.
 

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almost every anti-gun law was passed by a democratic administration. The exception was bush SR, who was a complete pos, his son's just an ignorant, drunken boob.
 

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I actually think Bernie Sanders has received a very favorable treatment in the press. As good or even better than Hilary. Hence the rise in Bernie's support. Hopefully, for America's sake, it's not too late.

As for Cruz and Trump the coverage hasn't been favorable but it has been accurate. The Republican Party has denigrated into a joke playing for it's cheapest seats. It's coverage displays that. I look forward to a break up between young Libertarian, Evangelical, and White Trash elements.
 

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What "scientific evidence"? You, a 'civil engineer' (first or second year of community college?) watch a YouTube video sound-traced with ominous music and declare the collapses as 'controlled demolition' "without question" and "settled science". Declarative reality is for simps junior. NEWSFLASH - You typing something does not make it true.

You like your paranoid delusions. They suit your mouth-breather IQ. You can believe you, maybe some of your dorm room bull session buddies. Stick with them. There are thinking adults posting here. You have no cred.
So your responses are reduced to ad-hominems and personal insults?

You might want to catch up on the Law of Conservation of Energy. Try to come up with a better explanation than "jet fuel" as to where the external work came from to disrupt equilibrium in that system. Then, please explain how skyscrapers designed to withstand airline impacts can have a complete breakdown in insulation, fire suppression, and structural integrity at the members to have a near perfect vertical pancake collapse rather than a lateral collapse. Good luck.
 

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The world is a complicated place junior. Not one where republicans do evil so you can swallow fantastic stories.
Like I said, I dislike both parties. If you can't see that behind their cultural sales pitch, Republicans are a band of corporatists that want to privatize the entire planet to pay shareholders (themselves!) you are either willfully ignorant or obtuse. They are self-interested to the core. Self-interest isn't always a bad thing, but their brand is to the detriment of everyone else.
 

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So your responses are reduced to ad-hominems and personal insults?

You might want to catch up on the Law of Conservation of Energy. Try to come up with a better explanation than "jet fuel" as to where the external work came from to disrupt equilibrium in that system. Then, please explain how skyscrapers designed to withstand airline impacts can have a complete breakdown in insulation, fire suppression, and structural integrity at the members to have a near perfect vertical pancake collapse rather than a lateral collapse. Good luck.
Yawn. Explain why hundreds of real engineers, architects and analysts (public and private) find no evidence that the collapse of both towers find anything other than a catastrophic failure and collapse caused by large, fully-fueled passenger jets (much larger and with double the fuel loads than the Boeing 727s modeled when designed which is why particular flights were chosen by the attackers) crashing into the towers and incinerating its support explains the towers' fall.
Explain why analysis by trained investigators (both public and private) of activities in and around the Trade Center finds NO unusual activity which would have been hundreds of people working for weeks to prepare a 'controlled demolition'.
Explain why no one in the entire world press or investigative journalism has found any publishable, credible evidence that anything other than what was seen on live television as it happened is shy to towers collapsed.
Explain why no one in the real world except a few nut jobs buys your nut job story. You aren't smarter than anyone else, much less everyone else.

Go watch your YouTube videos junior. You and your conspiracy theories are a joke.
 

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Yawn. Explain why hundreds of real engineers, architects and analysts (public and private) find no evidence that the collapse of both towers find anything other than a catastrophic failure and collapse caused by large, fully-fueled passenger jets (much larger and with double the fuel loads than the Boeing 727s modeled when designed which is why particular flights were chosen by the attackers) crashing into the towers and incinerating its support explains the towers' fall.
Explain why analysis by trained investigators (both public and private) of activities in and around the Trade Center finds NO unusual activity which would have been hundreds of people working for weeks to prepare a 'controlled demolition'.
Explain why no one in the entire world press or investigative journalism has found any publishable, credible evidence that anything other than what was seen on live television as it happened is shy to towers collapsed.
Explain why no one in the real world except a few nut jobs buys your nut job story. You aren't smarter than anyone else, much less everyone else.

Go watch your YouTube videos junior. You and your conspiracy theories are a joke.
The same reason why you can find "scientists" that say global warming is a hoax.
The same reason why you can find "economists" that say tax cuts for the rich will boost the economy.

It's a lucrative to do what rich donors tell you to do.

It's also a good idea to shut your mouth if the US Government tells you to, because they will come after you. (Example: Edward Snowden).
 

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Public and private researchers, press, engineers, analysts. MULTIPLE points of view, not controlled by the big bad government and big bad corporations.

Yet the only people squealing about conspiracy are a handful of true believer nut jobs with nothing but whispers and ominous soundtrack YouTube videos.

LOL
 
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