Player Supreme on the Elusive idea of a "Perfect 10"

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This raises the question.


Are we chooseing women based on our own personal likes and dislikes or based on societies opinions of beuty.

Are some of you guys haveing difficulty with finding women simply because you have bought into a impossible standard of beuty that isnt even real.

All kinds of medai, even porn push a unrealistic and unatural physical characteristic for the ideal woman.

It has gotten so bad that women now go under the knife and replace their body parts with fake enhancments, and have their thickness sucked out with nothing much more sophistcated than a vacum cleaner for fat.

I had a good friend in highschool named Paul who was a skinny little half Italien- half Indain kid who was geeky looking as all hell. He bought into this perfect 10 ideal, hook line and sinker. He would only want the hottest most popular girl in school. He would completely reject any girl who had even the slightest deviation from that goofy ass boy skinny look.

As a result he never hooked up with anyone his entire Highschool years. When he finally did hook up he found a Japanese girl over-seas and got played hard cause he was so caught up in her looks he didnt realise she was a tottal ***** useing him for his money and military benefits.

She ****ed other guys and gave him the kids that resulted. Made his life a living hell. Oh but she was ever so hot!!

The media sells a lot of bull****, and they do it because it works. You think you have your own ideas but trust me they wouldnt spend such incredible amounts of money on advertiseing if it didnt get you to pay more for their ****ty products.

I dont watch tv because it invites you to turn off your discerning mind and zone out. It makes you lose any critical thinking ability and just recieve message after message. People you would never invite into your home and listen to, come through other ways to influence you in every aspect of your life.

I encourage you to really serch your mind and heart and find out what kind of woman pleases you in the way you need deep in your soul. Try to forget what other people will think. Dont look for trophies to show off for other mens egos. It leads to missery at the worst and unfullfillment at the least.
 

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SuavePlaya said:
L777 are you trying to convince us that lindsey lohan or the olsen twins are hot? Dude they look more sick and far away from healthy. If you deny this whole homo thing I saw on this forum not too long ago some dude posted pics of some guys in a fashion show wearing high heels with jeans on(really homo) saying this is the next fashion trend.
OK I said I was done but I see such rampant stupidity on this thread that I just can't let it lie.

Please read my first contribution to this thread, all I said is that there is no conspiracy perpertrated by 'the gays' like the OP suggests, and later contributions were questioning the OP's morals and intelligence (he's a 50 year old homophobe, misogynist and moron). I much prefer the 'curvier' shape of women...but I just hate it when ppl like the OP portray themselves as some sort of prophet and saviour from the evil conspiracists, which in this case is 'the gays' who apparantly have untold political power' (this is just not true, plain and simple).

Honestly man be careful who you take advice from. Most of what the OP says is not true, and a lot of the things he does and says are pretty immoral and wrong IMO, particularly from someone of his age.

And OP, yes of course I think I'm cleverer than you...you can't even use the language correctly and you think that 'shutting Eddie Murphy down; is equivelant to political power. You are not an intelligent man, don't involve yourself in things you know nothing about!!

And no, I'm not a homosexual...for my age I've slept with a high number of women actually...I just dislike people who harbour hate towards others because of something as irrelevant as orientation. Dress it up as you like but its just as bad as racism or sexism. And its often said that classic 'closet homosexual' behaviour consists of being, or at least appearing homophobic, to 'cover up' true sexuality. Make of that what you will.
 
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As I said on that other thread:

L777 shut fruck up and go back to England with that better than thou bull. You guys are not the most masculine of men around and I am tired of you trying to push your pseudo emo ways here. Let me show this board what I am talking about.

I am into survival training. The UK has a very good teacher whom I do respect named Ray Mears. We also have good trainers over here but let me show you a difference in masculinity between the two groups:

L777's guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfkKmlKZJM

One of the masculine US's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPe-M5dSfxw


Their guy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQN4jcXDjbE

At least he speaks very good Kings English


Our guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXm_0k7zRbk


Get the diff? Now I know this is only 1 small example and has nothing to do with the whole. But l77 what has happened to your people? You guys used to be bad a thousand years ago. Now look at you. Foppish grammar nerds? Look at you..I read about your narrow shoulders and sunken in chest kid.
I thought you said you were done? They why keep coming back? Big ego huh?

Grow the fruck up kid. eh gov'nah?

Con has made a valid point. Society has pushed on unrealistic expectations of women from porn and modeling photos shoots.

I also forgot to mention I got into fitness modeling to the kid who said I embellish and had never dated models:

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/youngc2.jpg

in my middle 30's. Uhh I have a issue over how skinny I was back then...

So you guys who are theorizing that it isn't true without having lived through it or been there are only reaching at straws.
 

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^^^^ Hahaha nice pics. A is you were a model you ain't got any muscle dude!! I'm bigger than that now at 22!! Haha hilarious
 

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I hate this Nerd-Style:

L777 said:
Could you please stop writing in such a childish style???

You come off as totally gay...

And your arrogant "i am better than you all"-behaviour is just stupid!!!
 

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ready123 said:
So gay people have hoodwinked society. I swear to god, some of you community people are fvckin wierd

And it shouldn't be a revelation that beauty has always been a subjective judgement. The Chinese used to think foodbinding was beautiful. That one tribe in the Guiness Book of World Records thinks women with ridiculously long necks are beautiful. Look at how "FAT" the naked women in old paintings are. Beauty has always been socially conditioned. Thinking only in terms of skinny vs thick and limiting it to the last 4 decades is totally missing the big picture
Exactly. Long, bad and retarded sociology rants does not right thou make.
 

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TheCorey said:
I hate this Nerd-Style:



Could you please stop writing in such a childish style???

You come off as totally gay...

And your arrogant "i am better than you all"-behaviour is just stupid!!!
Good first post. Think about the phrase, "you come off as totally gay", and when you realise why this phrase doesn't make sense, come back and discuss the topic with me.

I only think I'm better than stupid people. Don't be one of them.
 

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L777 said:
^^^^ Hahaha nice pics. A is you were a model you ain't got any muscle dude!! I'm bigger than that now at 22!! Haha hilarious
Oh great. This thread has turned from "what's a perfect 10" to "my dyck is bigger than yours".

This is ridiculous. L777 you need to get a grip man. Yeah Supreme does some things wrong, you called him out on it. But now you're behaving like a little dweeb.

Also, yes Supreme does have some muscle in that picture. As he said he was a fitness instructor. You know what that is? Here's a hint: NOT bodybuilding. I'm surprised you've never seen what a fitness instructor looks like in ye old British England.

Continue your battle of the egos. Nobody is going to win and you're both going to look like idiots. L777, you're winning it so far hands down.

Supreme: Its just and internet forum man. Its no big deal. I can't believe you would lower yourself to L777's level. I'm pretty sure you've got better and bigger things to focus on. I don't know why you bother to fight with L777 over anything, you know he's not going to agree with you over anything because he's already made up his mind. He's loving his spat because he's lowering you to his level.

Arguing with [a dweeeb like L777] is like wrestling with a pig in the mud: After a while, you realize that the pig enjoys it.


Have as much respect for yourself as we have for you.
 

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No I think this is ok. I think L777 is doing a fine job of showwing you all what a person caught up in the matrix is capable of. Just how dillusional and hypocritical they can be.

What Supreme and others advocate is a Man with a discerning mind who resists being programmed by the mainstream. A Man who sees the way reality actually is, or at least sees it better than the sheeple.

Im not going to argue about Gays and their socail power, since thats not what the thread is supposed to be focused on.

I happen to like thick women. Not super obese, but deffinately not the typical stick figure you see on a magazine these days.

Its a fact that thicker more curvy women were more desired by men a not too long ago. It was the same in the ancient world.

Hell, even pre-historic men made small statues of women with incredibly large curves and very thick.

Look how messed up women are trying desperatly to starve themselves and cut themselves to feed this backwards beuty lie.

I was with a skinny woman once, never again. A body like a thirteen year old boy ........yikes.

When I touch a woman I want her to be unmistakably female.
 

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L777 said:
I only think I'm better than stupid people. Don't be one of them.
Again: total arrogance! :rolleyes:

But i am glad you skipped your "^^^^"-Bull****!

Alle_Gory said:
L777 you need to get a grip man. Yeah Supreme does some things wrong, you called him out on it. But now you're behaving like a little dweeb.
*agreed*

L777, you really need to grow up...

That´s all i have to say, goodbye!
 

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Excellent posts Con-akt :)



- Skinny and good looking 8-10 = *****y and self centered ( most often)
Their ego is to ****ing high, always have to have the last words to say. Just like the ego fight in here, have to have the last word. It makes me sick.

- Normal looking = More often good personality.


In this society it is not important to be acting nice ore care about other people.( Who in a perfect world would be the most important thing to do)


I will give you an example. Watch music videos from the 80s and back than, it was actually normal looking people singing. And they were singing often about how they cared about other people. ( Songs with feelings)

(message = care about other people)


In today people are not singing about how they love other people and stuff like that. In short terms they are singing " I am the greatest" " Make money" "I am better than anyone"

( Message= Care only about yourself )


It is the same thing with movies and everything else. The media are creating an image of how you ideally are going to
- look like
- dress
- act
- live
- What you should do

The so called 10 girls/boys are a perfect example of how people can be manipulated to have to become the image of their media created "perfect girl, boy".

But the problem is that media are not telling people to treat other people nice. They are telling you to be "cool".And the media image of cool is a self centered person who thinks/acts like he/she is the greatest.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
Oh great. This thread has turned from "what's a perfect 10" to "my dyck is bigger than yours".

This is ridiculous. L777 you need to get a grip man. Yeah Supreme does some things wrong, you called him out on it. But now you're behaving like a little dweeb.

Also, yes Supreme does have some muscle in that picture. As he said he was a fitness instructor. You know what that is? Here's a hint: NOT bodybuilding. I'm surprised you've never seen what a fitness instructor looks like in ye old British England.

Continue your battle of the egos. Nobody is going to win and you're both going to look like idiots. L777, you're winning it so far hands down.

Supreme: Its just and internet forum man. Its no big deal. I can't believe you would lower yourself to L777's level. I'm pretty sure you've got better and bigger things to focus on. I don't know why you bother to fight with L777 over anything, you know he's not going to agree with you over anything because he's already made up his mind. He's loving his spat because he's lowering you to his level.

Arguing with [a dweeeb like L777] is like wrestling with a pig in the mud: After a while, you realize that the pig enjoys it.


Have as much respect for yourself as we have for you.
You have to realise I genuinely don't care what you or anyone actually thinks, I have something to say so I say it.

And lol about my 'level'. What because I'm young and don't make podcasts I'm somehow inferior? OK busta. I've been in this for over 4 years now, and I'm not going to bother to tell you exactly how many lays I've had but its the right side of 60. Even more LOL about me being 'in the matrix'. Christ almighty, this phrase in this community relates to incorrect beliefs about how men think about women and sexuality (which I can assure you I am aware of, see 60+ lays for example) not an actual, Neo and Morpheus style MATRIX where the government is evil and 'the gays' have our brains in little pink tanks :D

NEWSFLASH CON-AKT, THERE IS NO MATRIX. SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING WAS BANNED YEARS AGO, BUSH DIDN'T BLOW UP THE TWIN TOWERS, NO-ONE HAS PROGRAMMED YOU, although PlayerSupreme is doing a good job.

I would argue that, due to the fact that I clearly have more common sense and intelligence than this fraud, that it is him who I am ELEVATING to my level, just by engaging him in the first place. And I HOPE this thread gets shut down due to a 'flame war' or whatever. people shouldn't be allowed to pedal such ridiculous conspiracy theory BS and prejudice on a forum full of impressionable young men, it just isn't right.

PS - I personally know a few serious fitness models and instructors, as in, actually make a living from it. I guarantee you 100% that he doesn not have the body for it in that picture, trust me on this one.
 

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kingman said:
I will give you an example. Watch music videos from the 80s and back than, it was actually normal looking people singing.
guys wearing makeup and spandex is normal looking?
 
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L77: You are a spoiled little brat with a god complex. If nobody goes your way you tell them ..."well your stupid because I am English and I am better than you."

The more you rant about me the dumber you look and the more I get emails on this forum such as:

Don Juan

Join Date:
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bought your book

I have been listening to your radio program all night.
I live in Atlanta GA and I'm a white guy, but I usually date black girls and went to a majority black high school. A lot of white guys may think your attitude is not acceptable but they just don't get it.

Not trying to prove how 'i'm down' or whatever, I just wanna say that I can relate to what you are saying more than a lot of the nerd speak in the PUA community. It's a good show, I'm sure it'll be a good book.

keep up the good work.

-Cla
Nobody knows what your ranting about anymore you have so much lost sight of what you even started on here.

And now your hoping that you have so much power that this thread gets shut down???

Now does anyone see the childishness of this?


" If you can't play by my rules then we won't play"


Then you want to attack my physique...lol now that was funny. Why don't you step into the light and show us who you are.

Show us your great physique and commanding presence. I dare you.

I will bet that you don't. I can spot a internet fake especially with your now bragging about how many women you have slept with.

You also do not know any fitness models or instructors. And I am also a author, lecturer, instructor of fitness teachers and creator of programs in this field and owner of a fitness studio. You should of done your homework first L77.

Ohh L77 you thought I was just a ordinary black dude in America. I guess you bought into the hype about us huh.

Yes I know I know and I am not lying about owning my own business kid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjMXWYJPO8

That means I work for myself. I went to college and I did work for another man for a while (phone company) but now I control my destiny and work for only myself.

I am also a competitive public speaker:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...&ei=j82iSbO0CaqIqQP1vcSFAg&q=someones+calling

Yes I have conquered the #1 fear in the world and grew as a champion. Now I know this L77 fool is gonna say I am not all that good cause he has to or he might try the pretend approach and fake say something he doesn't believe. I just suggest we ignore any comments from him in the future.

So basically you are this little child throwing a temper tantrum.

NEXT!

Alley Gory: LOL.

Did I miss anyone?

Sorry I am preparing for a speech competition and I haven't had a lot of time for this thread. I did talk about it in a show I did for my crew last night.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/playersupreme/Are_you_a_player.mp3

Oh in case you want to see the website before you download it so that you can insure that I am Kosher:

http://playersupreme.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=436455



The point that I want to make there is that you kids are all theorizing something that "I" Lived through as I said in my show. I didn't read a history book or sit at a coffee shop and talk about this stuff I lived through it.

Now I suggest that in this discussion we IGNORE L77 as if we were on a playground and he was doing this whole spoiled routine.

L77 you are not a teacher and you never will be guv-nah.

******NEWS FLASH********


NOW I want to ask you fellows how did this thread get off track? And WHY? If you look for that answer then you can see that it was L77s goal to pull it off track.

Because it wasn't about him. If you listen to my full podcast you will understand why he deliberately set out to subvert this thread!

Notice how he threw in the homo crap? Then tried all kinds of stupidity?

This site is full of guys like that. IT is why nothing good gets very far here.

It is why your best teachers get thrown off. People like L77!


OOOPPPS- I forgot to show proof of something before L77 starts something:

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03047.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03048.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03049.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03050.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03051.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p414/PlayerSupremesFolder/DSC03052.jpg

Before someone whines: I know that in the "NERD" community since they have very few achievements and they are raised a different way than normal kids and your not suppose to brag about your shyt. I don't come from that community nor upbringing. I didn't get the "well Brandon just turn the other cheek and those boys will leave you alone."
 
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Good God, the stupidity and ignorance of some people in this thread (cough*Supreme* cough) is astonishing, mind numbing almost. Here is a man (.....) in his 50's (!), arguing over the pettiest sh!t in the most childish manner with a man half his age. Not only are you being made a total fool of and made look like an ignorant, childish and immature little BOY, but you actually gave me a headache with your faulty grammar and incoherent writing (and I'm not even a native English speaker!). I don't think I've come across a person with as little intelligence and grip of reality, EVER. I can truly say that having come across you in this forum has been a calamity. I'm genuinely concerned about some of the less experienced guys on this forum being mislead and "brainwashed" by your truly inane ideas and opinions. They belong in a forum for little boys who've just reached puberty.

Also, I bet that some of these other replies from people who've just begun posting on this forum are actually fake accounts made by you Supreme.

L777, I think it's admirable of you to keep your cool in here and not succumb to the urge (I'm sure you have it) of abusing him with words he wouldn't understand.

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P.S. Supreme, please don't bother with replying to this post by posting more "proof" (haha...) in the form of pictures and made up reviews, it's really not appropriate of a "man" your age, even more so considering that nobody has even asked to see them, it's pathetic.
Also, you constantly keep commenting on how "American" you are, which I really don't advise you to do if you have the slightest regard for your country.
Lastly, if you do reply I know that you will have a hard time coming up with something and therefore resort to commenting on things you have no knowledge of, such as my "achievements" in terms of "game", so let me save you the trouble by saying that I regard myself WAY more successful than you, despite you being more than twice my age; I surpassed that "level" once I finished puberty.
 

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Goodboybadboy - I sense some faggotry in your name already.

nice job surpassing levels and **** but where is your "proof" - u know, since you're above Playersupreme?

You read a couple of articles by deangelo, created a gay-ass name on a site full of nerds and you are all ready to clown on someone who spent 30 years in his game. How dare you bro.
 

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^^^ Needless again. What is with the gay-bashing...I thought this community was supposed to make you a BETTER person!!

All I'm saying is be careful who you take advice off. I don't claim to know it all, but I'm pretty well educated and well travelled and have good general knowledge and am well aware of current affairs politics etc.

I have no idea how good PlayerSupreme is at pulling women, that wasn't originally the issue, it was the stuff about gay people having political power and trying to indoctrinate the rest of us that I took issue with. He then went on to tell proudly tell us that he cheated on his g/f over a long period of time, can't you see that this guy probably isn't that good of a role model, he's FIFTY years old and still uses phrases like "its a pimp thang".

He obv. has some unresolved issues and, from the manner of his podcats and public speaking seems to be over-compensating for something with his over-confident manner.

*****IF YOU READ ANY OF THIS POST, READ THIS*****

I used to want to become a 'player' and I used to think it would have been cool to cheat on girls and bash gay people and belittle AFCs, "alpha male" style....but I quickly grew out of it and I now realise that that is just a by-product of being angry/frustrated for large parts of my life, mainly at women, for not being able to get them. Now I wouldn't dream of cheating on or 'playing' women, or bashing homosexuals....I'm above it....the community has made me a better person and I fell genuinely content in my life. Can't you see that this is a better way to be than a 50 year old chauvenist, homophobe and conspiricist?
 

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TheRealSupreme said:
Alley Gory: LOL.
*whoosh*

Totally missed my point.
I guess you like playing in the mud.

I did talk about it in a show I did for my crew last night.
This is exactly why I stopped listening to your show. That and your constant rants about gays. If I wanted to hear about gays and dweebs I would turn on the TV.

Before someone whines: I know that in the "NERD" community since they have very few achievements and they are raised a different way than normal kids and your not suppose to brag about your shyt. I don't come from that community nor upbringing. I didn't get the "well Brandon just turn the other cheek and those boys will leave you alone."
Dude. There's a difference between proving yourself and posting pictures of your dyck online because L777 said you have a teeny weeny. Plus you're forgetting one thing ITS JUST A FORUM. My god, I wonder what you're like in 'real life'.
 

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DJVladdy said:
Goodboybadboy - I sense some faggotry in your name already.

nice job surpassing levels and **** but where is your "proof" - u know, since you're above Playersupreme?

You read a couple of articles by deangelo, created a gay-ass name on a site full of nerds and you are all ready to clown on someone who spent 30 years in his game. How dare you bro.
Oh, really...what else does your gay radar tell you Vladdy boy?

"proof"? The way PlayerSupreme conducts himself in this thread is enough to show that any well mannered and confident man is miles above him, not just a "level" or two.

You're coming across as PlayerSupreme's groupie, or booty call maybe if you're a woman ("How dare you" ?? hehe...), I really don't think that's how you envisaged yourself to be when you were a little boy, bowing and swallowing another man's bullsh!t and blindly following his trail of poo.
 

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L777 said:
You have to realise I genuinely don't care what you or anyone actually thinks, I have something to say so I say it.
Well that's great. But you should edit your messages before posting. You're looking like a tool. "I'm smarter than stupid people". Remember that? Edit your sh*t.

And lol about my 'level'. What because I'm young and don't make podcasts I'm somehow inferior? OK busta. I've been in this for over 4 years now, and I'm not going to bother to tell you exactly how many lays I've had but its the right side of 60.
Its how you behave. Look at Supreme for an example. You guys are squabbling like children. You're being worse in my opinion.

I would argue that, due to the fact that I clearly have more common sense and intelligence than this fraud, that it is him who I am ELEVATING to my level, just by engaging him in the first place. And I HOPE this thread gets shut down due to a 'flame war' or whatever. people shouldn't be allowed to pedal such ridiculous conspiracy theory BS and prejudice on a forum full of impressionable young men, it just isn't right.
You're right. We need a real adult here. Where's Rollo Tomassi?

L777 said:
All I'm saying is be careful who you take advice off. I don't claim to know it all, but I'm pretty well educated and well travelled and have good general knowledge and am well aware of current affairs politics etc.
This is sensible advice.

and trying to indoctrinate the rest of us that I took issue with. He then went on to tell proudly tell us that he cheated on his g/f over a long period of time, can't you see that this guy probably isn't that good of a role model, he's FIFTY years old and still uses phrases like "its a pimp thang".
Trying is not succeeding. He'll probably get a few of the weaker ones here, wash em down, and send them back to sosuave.net to talk sh*t anytime anyone says anything bad about him.

Its happened before.


Supreme. Looks like maturity and age don't go hand in hand man. Maybe you should think about that.





I'm out of here. There's not enough space for all the egos.
 
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